YoYo Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 I don't know it's a bug or not but in the model of Spitfire the lever in settings dosen't work like for other aircraft (most of Russian and all Germany). RCtr "+" and "-" just works. That's all. I check also bind open/close by HOTAS button but it dosen't work also (bug?). Only this shortcuts. Please to connect water radiator with lever option in settings (like for the others). I know it works gradually (fixed degrees) here but it's possible for sure.
Finkeren Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) I don't think it can be mapped to an axis. The lever historically had 5 fixed positions, and the lever was unlocks by pressing a button, so it can only be used with buttons, similar to the radiators on the Bf 110. Edited July 11, 2017 by Finkeren 1
unreasonable Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I have not been able to map to an axis, but I have been able to map to buttons on my throttle (G940). IMHO it should be map-able to an axis: the point is that using an axis, generally there is no need to look at the relevant control, you can position it by touch. Currently using the default buttons means hunting around on the keyboard and taking eyes off the screen - not good. Clearly an actual Spitfire pilot does not have to do that. Using a pair of buttons on the base of my G940 I can change radiator without looking away from the screen, but I only have four pairs of these buttons. I certainly do not see how allowing the use of an axis for radiator gives any kind of unfair advantage...
Bearfoot Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I don't think it can be mapped to an axis. The lever historically had 5 fixed positions, and the lever was unlocks by pressing a button, so it can only be used with buttons, similar to the radiators on the Bf 110. Ah, I was wondering why it was controlled by discrete steps rather than a continuous analog axis. This explains it -- historical authenticity! Ergonomically annoying, but philosophically satisfying, I suppose ...
ZachariasX Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I have not been able to map to an axis, but I have been able to map to buttons on my throttle (G940). IMHO it should be map-able to an axis: the point is that using an axis, generally there is no need to look at the relevant control, you can position it by touch. Currently using the default buttons means hunting around on the keyboard and taking eyes off the screen - not good. Clearly an actual Spitfire pilot does not have to do that. Using a pair of buttons on the base of my G940 I can change radiator without looking away from the screen, but I only have four pairs of these buttons. I certainly do not see how allowing the use of an axis for radiator gives any kind of unfair advantage... It should just 'click' from one position to the next when sufficiently moving the axis. It eorks like the parking brake of a car. Depress the button on the end with your thumb, and the lever is unlocked. Actually, the mixture lever should be like that as well, as it only has two positions, all forward or all back. As we have it now is clearly wrong. You don't have "72% mixture". The sytem only accepts those two positions as input.
Finkeren Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I agree about the mixture with fixed position Zach. I find it pretty frustrating trying to hit 66% on mixture when flying the P-40.
ZachariasX Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I agree about the mixture with fixed position Zach. I find it pretty frustrating trying to hit 66% on mixture when flying the P-40. +1
YoYo Posted July 12, 2017 Author Posted July 12, 2017 I don't think it can be mapped to an axis. The lever historically had 5 fixed positions, and the lever was unlocks by pressing a button, so it can only be used with buttons, similar to the radiators on the Bf 110. I know it (as I wrote in the first post) but it's quite annoying to haven't possibility to set up it as Axis. It could be MORE USER FRIENDLY. Simply. In this situation each plane can have different buttons, axis ect. for this. After next 3 years + new theaters/planes we will not remember all settings in this situation. So why no Axis lever (like in real Spitfire) but simulator will match it as an appropriate degree of water cooler like in real Spit? Please Devs, think about it. TY.
Asgar Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I agree about the mixture with fixed position Zach. I find it pretty frustrating trying to hit 66% on mixture when flying the P-40. why are you trying to hit 66% on a P-40? everything about 50% is auto rich
Finkeren Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 why are you trying to hit 66% on a P-40? everything about 50% is auto rich It's my OCD brain telling me it's "wrong" (I don't really have OCD, but I still can't help but do things like this) would be much easier, if I could just press a button a set number of times.
216th_Jordan Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 I think mixture is auto lean at full back and auto rich at full forward (could be the other way around). It should be equal to the P-40 which also has modes rather than percentages (although the game shows percentages).
unreasonable Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Full back is (or at least should be) auto rich - take a look here, relevant picture is about half way down left hand side: http://spitfiresite.com/2010/07/anatomy-of-spitfire-cockpit.html
dburne Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Agreed it would be nice to be able to assign mixture to an axis. Much easier to tell how it is set.
Matt Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) In Rise of Flight, the "throttle" of the N28 was basically just a 4-way switch working in stages, so similar to the radiator setting lever in the Spitfire (and Bf 110 and the like). You could still put it on a throttle axis and control it that way. It would just jump from stage to the next stage. It felt very intuitive and worked just fine. Not sure why they don't use the same system for these radiator stages. It's definately annoying to have to change controls from axis to buttons on some planes. Edited July 12, 2017 by Matt 1
Finkeren Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Agreed it would be nice to be able to assign mixture to an axis. Much easier to tell how it is set. You can assign mixture to an axis. That's not what we're talking about.
dburne Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 You can assign mixture to an axis. That's not what we're talking about. Yeah, meant water radiator. Senior moment duh lol...
unreasonable Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Yeah, meant water radiator. Senior moment duh lol... I have just had one too - it is the moon in Aquarius I tell you - makes you absent minded!
ST_Pirato Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 (edited) A workaround for this could be to use some kind of Gamecontroler software,where you can set different zones of an axis to act as button press. Like you move the axis to 10% means a buttonpress, on to 20% another button etc. On the MFG Crosswind pedals software is such an option to set the Brakes as button when axis reaches a certain percentage. I know of one Software where you can set it up like this, Pinnacle Game Profiler. But it is payware,I know of no other Software,unfortunally. Maybe there is a freeware programm that can do the same. Hopefully they include the option to use axis for the Spitfire ,as mentioned already the RoF N28 Throttle works similar. Isn't such an option aviable on Saitek,CH and Logitech Software? Edited July 12, 2017 by ST_Pirato
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