How to fix this problem

[Mikey]

  Simply put when i pause trackir and use a snap view, or return to center, gun sight view the view snaps back to the paused trackir location as soon as i let go of the snapview/default center/gunsight view. Problem being, when I press one of those views, i want it to go and stay where i put it. not snap back to the paused trackir position.

F9 does not help-switching from pan to gradual or instant snap is not doing anything.

  Its as if some unknown command was set off that will not let me use a view other than trackir as I intend to. And i know its stupidly simple whatever it is. Ive looked through view and head control keybindings for hours. Nothing i try is working. If I keep going ill probably cause more problems than I started with.

  I mainly use Trackir5 in combat, takeoff and landing. I use snap views and mouse for general flying and looking at instruments. As it is now I cant play comfortably at all. If someone can let me know what mysterious command I set off or how to reset all settings I'd be most thankful.

Edited July 9, 2017 by Mikey

[3./JG15_Kampf]

To restore visions, on the initial screen go to settings-Game- and click on RESET INTERFACE SETTINGS. This will restore your views to default

[Mikey]

To restore visions, on the initial screen go to settings-Game- and click on RESET INTERFACE SETTINGS. This will restore your views to default

Thank you very much.

[3./JG15_Kampf]

It worked?

[Mikey]

I just tested and no, it did not fix the problem. I thought this had to be the thing I was missing but no.

Im stumped as to what it is, starting to think it's maybe something not related to the game.  

I've never had this problem before, it happened after I updated my video driver but I cant blame that because it was working shortly after updating the driver.

Until I started messing around getting re-acquainted with BOS about an hour later I noticed the view snapping back to the trackir pause position.

 

I know Its not a big deal or at least it doesn't seem like it, but i've flown for a few years and those are the tendencies and/or habits i've gained. they are thrown off now by such a trivial thing like this. it feels weird getting used to only trackir. Still I hope I can find a solution but I haven't a clue what triggered it. So i'll get used to this as is for the time being 

Edited July 10, 2017 by Mikey

[3./JG15_Kampf]

Pause track Ir clic F9- Fixed views

Then click on your view key you want. Whenever you connect IR track your view will be set to center views.

[JG1_Labroisse]

Pause track Ir clic F9- Fixed views

Then click on your view key you want. Whenever you connect IR track your view will be set to center views.

I'm having the same problem as Mikey.  Tried your suggestion Kampf and that didn't work.  Something definitely messed up with the last patch.   Once TrackIr is paused, center pilot head key only centers while the key is pressed, no matter what pilot head view mode is set to.  When the center pilot head key is released, the view snaps back to the position the head was in when the TrackIr was paused.

 

However, if I open up the settings/keybinding menu when in the game, then close it immediately, the center pilot head key works the first  time it is pressed, then not after that unless the settings menu is opened again.

 

This is really annoying as I use the center pilot head key to center the view, then to re-center trackIr.

 

Any help would be really appreciated.

 

Labroisse

[Mikey]

I'm having the same problem as Mikey.  Tried your suggestion Kampf and that didn't work.  Something definitely messed up with the last patch.   Once TrackIr is paused, center pilot head key only centers while the key is pressed, no matter what pilot head view mode is set to.  When the center pilot head key is released, the view snaps back to the position the head was in when the TrackIr was paused.

 

However, if I open up the settings/keybinding menu when in the game, then close it immediately, the center pilot head key works the first  time it is pressed, then not after that unless the settings menu is opened again.

 

This is really annoying as I use the center pilot head key to center the view, then to re-center trackIr.

 

Any help would be really appreciated.

 

Labroisse

I see I'm not the only one. I have yet to fix the problem will keep updated. My problem is exactly as you describe, and the purpose of doing so is pretty much the same too. pressing esc helps until unpause of trackir

I did contact support yesterday and I don't think they understood my question as the answer I got was something along the lines of "you can only use 1 view (trackir) at a time". 

Edited July 12, 2017 by Mikey

[216th_Jordan]

I see I'm not the only one. I have yet to fix the problem will keep updated. My problem is exactly as you describe, and the purpose of doing so is pretty much the same too. pressing esc helps until unpause of trackir

I did contact support yesterday and I don't think they understood my question as the answer I got was something along the lines of "you can only use 1 view (trackir) at a time".

For me this happens when I alt-tab out of the game. I usually hit ^ once and its fine again afterwards.

 

Also apart from that there is an option in camera settings called pan mode IIRC there you can set how your camera behaves, if it snaps back, if it turns gradually or stepwise etc.

[Mikey]

I tried hitting ^ once and it had no effect. and the view mode, be it gradual, instant, pan view has no effect either on the bug.

[Blutaar]

Another thing i struggled a little bit was to fix a new camera default view. Everytime i pressed F10 the camera moved a little bit left and down in the Spitfire, didnt test it in the other planes because there i have my custom view set. Dont know if it is a issue but maybe im not the only one who had this.

[JG1_Labroisse]

Bump. 

[Mikey]

Bump.

[TG-55Panthercules]

I guess I'm having the same trouble understanding what you're trying to do that the devs seemed to be having.  I can't figure out what behavior you want to happen that isn't happening (or, if I understand that, I guess I can't understand why you would want it to work that way).

 

If you're using TIR, and you've got TIR properly centered to the "center pilot head" position you want, then why would you want/need to use a key to center your view independently of TIR?  Why not just move your real head so that you're looking straight ahead? And if for some reason (maybe you've shifted in your chair inadvertantly during a dogfight or whatever) the TIR has gotten out of whack so that when your real head is looking straight ahead your virtual head isn't quite doing that, then why not just hit the key (or button) you've assigned in TIR to center your TIR - that should bring you right back to the correct "center pilot head" position you told TIR to use.  Not sure why you would ever be pausing TIR as part of this either, especially while the game is going on.  So, too puzzled to even guess whether this is really a bug or just a case of trying to do something that doesn't really make much sense.

Edited July 20, 2017 by TG-55Panthercules

[III/JG2Gustav05]

I think this is a new bug after recent updates. No way to fix it unless by designer.

[216th_Jordan]

A video of what happens would be helpful.

[Jade_Monkey]

Im not sure im grasping the issue correctly but could it be that in-game and Trackir keys are overlapping functions? Like F9 is something different for each program and you are triggering both?

 

Try changing the trackir center view, and pause key to something else unused by the game and test.

Edited July 20, 2017 by Jade_Monkey

[JG1_Labroisse]

Hard to explain in words, but definitely not an overlapping key issue as it worked fine prior to the last patch.  Basically, if you move around itoo much in your chair, or get up and come back, etc, the TrackIr is not aligned anymore.  So, before the patch, one could pause TrackIr no matter where the head was currently looking, hit a key to Center Pilot Head View which would then center the pilot view, then hit a key you set up to in TrackIr to center TrackIr.  TrackIr would then be perfectly centered with the center of the pilot's head in-game.

 

After the patch, once TrackIr is paused, if the center pilot head key is pressed, the pilot view snaps to the center, but as soon as the key is released the view immediately returns to the position the head was in when TrackIr was paused.  So, there is no way to align TrackIr center with the pilot head center.  I've tried chaging the pilot view mode from snap to pan, etc but that key seems to have no longer have an effect on anything.

 

Interestingly, if I pause TrackIr (in any position), hit escape to bring up options menu then immediately close the options menu, the center pilot view key works correctly the first press and will center the pilot head and stay there.  This is a workaround which is fine, but something has gone wrong with the view keys since the last patch.

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

Mmm, you guys need to stop moving your mouse around, as this moves the head pilot view also.

 

I do not have this issue with the track ir..

 

You some how messed up your view keys, track ir needs to have separate keybinding from the game, I assigned my track ir keys away from F9, F10, F11, F12. To shift home, shift delete, shift pageup, shift insert, so remember you need to pause your track ir first then adjust your view with the delete insert pageup, down keys then press F10, then unpuase your track ir. Also you need to make track ir exclusive profile to.

Edited July 20, 2017 by 71st_AH_Mastiff

[JG1_Labroisse]

Not moving the mouse.  Not having issues with TrackIr and the TrackIr keys have been mapped just as they were before the most recent update and are not conflicting with in-game keys.

 

The issue is with the center pilot head view key on BoX.  Before the update it would move the head to center position (where I previously set my desired center position by using delete insert pageup and pagedown keys followed by F10) and stay there, allowing TrackIr to be centered with the centered pilot view.  Now the center pilot head view key snaps to center then when released immediately moves back to wherever the head was positioned before the key was pressed.

 

I think the change pilot head view mode key is not working properly.

Edited July 20, 2017 by II./JG1_Labroisse

[SCG_Limboski]

I am also experiencing this same bug (and I do not think you understand the problem Mastiff--this has nothing to do with the mouse movement or conflicting keybindings).  It's like the "fixed quick view" functionality gets broken and it acts like "centered quick view" function instead except that it returns to your last viewpoint right before you turned TrackIR off.  Hitting escape and and going to the options menu and returning does fix the problem, however, so this is a workaround for now.  The bug is present for me BEFORE doing any alt-tabbing out of BoS.

 

The reason I am turning off TrackIR is to create new custom views for keys that I can hit while my head tracking is on (e.g., close up views of side instrument panels, etc.)

Edited July 20, 2017 by II./JG77_Limbo

[Mikey]

Imagine when you pause your Trackir while you looking somewhere. problem is it snaps back to that no matter what now.

 

Now without this "bug" previously (while trackir is paused) when you use mouse to look around you could do that, or you could use a snap view or any view input other than mouse would "re-center" the view.  

 

Now the view simply goes back to the paused trackir position. - that's the problem

 

Its very important as I used it to properly recenter my view.trackir, and also for comfort of using other view types and methods when suited (not at the same time) trackir is paused other views not working

Edited July 24, 2017 by Mikey

[senseispcc]

I have something even more "bizarre".

In the Yak b and only in this plane none other the view with or without tackir is higher or lower than the gunsight view but never the gunsight view.

I tried to re-centre it with the trackir or with the mouse or any key combination, nothing works and it is impossible to re-centre the gunsight in this plane only.

It is either too high or too low. And only for the Yak mod 127 no other plane in the game. 

Even if I centre with the tracker it is too high or too low.

Strange is it not?

Any solution(s)?!   

[icecream]

I have something even more "bizarre".

In the Yak b and only in this plane none other the view with or without tackir is higher or lower than the gunsight view but never the gunsight view.

I tried to re-centre it with the trackir or with the mouse or any key combination, nothing works and it is impossible to re-centre the gunsight in this plane only.

It is either too high or too low. And only for the Yak mod 127 no other plane in the game. 

Even if I centre with the tracker it is too high or too low.

Strange is it not?

Any solution(s)?!   

 

 

Try to delete the snapview of the yak, so it goes back to default.

 

C:\Program Files (x86)\1C Game Studios\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Moscow\data\LuaScript\

Edited August 12, 2017 by icecream

[KG200_Volker]

When you pause trackir, hit ESC go to CAMERA and select PAN CAM even if it is already selected, hit ACCEPT and then with trackir paused you can move head with mouse for a few pause/un-pause cycles.

 

Its a bug, I have it too, that's the workaround for me.

Edited August 13, 2017 by Gr_Volker

[Lt_Col_Dave]

Try to delete the snapview of the yak, so it goes back to default.

 

C:\Program Files (x86)\1C Game Studios\IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Moscow\data\LuaScript\

Thank you icecream.

I had a similar problem with the IL-2 1941, where the default view was skewed 45° to the right. But all other planes were ok.

After deleting the .svc for the IL-2 1941 in the LuaScript folder, the view was back to normal.

[Sokol1]

The culprit is F-10 key pressed inadvertently, this save the actual POV angle as default for this snap.

 

Ad a modifier (Alt, Ctrl...) to this key, is the command "Save current corrections in head snap position"

[JG1_Labroisse]

Update: this problem is sort of fixed.  The first time the set view to center is pressed, it doesn't work and snaps back to the original view.  The 2nd or 3rd time it is pressed it works and stays at center.  I'll take it I guess. 

[SCG_Limboski]

I now sometimes encounter a bug where my zoom keys stop working correctly.  Again, hitting the escape key to quickly go to the menu and then back out again resolves the bug.  This is a problem with the Track IR interface.

[Mikey]

My problem seems to have vanished, now when I pause trackir, I can use my HAT or mouse to look around.