VR Newbie with some sort of install problems...

[Blitzen]

...and I need help.Everything Oculus is installed & working so far as I can tell except for problems trying to get BoS up & running. I go into game check VR enable  & reboot.I start sim through Steam & enable it there as well. Afer a minute or two I get a screen tell me to start wireless controller,which of course I don't want to use-I want to use my joystick which is on via 'controllers' in game,( or even worse I go back to the Oculus Home screen  )I can't get past this screen, but if I try I get a notice saying I am playing Bos & if I leave I'll leave BoS. If I start BoS outside of Steam I find VR Enable is now unchecked.What gives ? My joystick controller isn't recognized & I can't get into start screen or game either...very frustrating.Have I missed something in Oculus settings or what,re-install? Thanks!

Edited June 21, 2017 by Blitzen

[HunDread]

It sounds like an oculus home setup thing. It is missing the xbox controller. You can try to connect the controller and do the rift setup through oculus home. Then start BOS. If everything is fine you can then remove the controller

[Virus*]

I had the same problem, check in the steam options if you have the flag on management for generic controllers...if so unflag it.

[Blitzen]

I had the same problem, check in the steam options if you have the flag on management for generic controllers...if so unflag it.

It seems to be recognizing my joystick as an Xbox controller & requires me to hit buttons found on the controller . I can find this info under settings but I can't find"options'.BTW the joystick works perfectly well if I start in Track IR .

[Virus*]

It seems to be recognizing my joystick as an Xbox controller & requires me to hit buttons found on the controller . I can find this info under settings but I can't find"options'.BTW the joystick works perfectly well if I start in Track IR .

In steam (not steam vr) settings/controller/generic controller configurator

For me unflagging this option solved everything

If you don't find when i go home i will send a screenshot

[Blitzen]

It sounds like an oculus home setup thing. It is missing the xbox controller. You can try to connect the controller and do the rift setup through oculus home. Then start BOS. If everything is fine you can then remove the controller

I did as you suggested:installed the remote controller that i had not done before.This led to some progress; when I hit the screen icon to start the sim & re-checked in-game VR optionI got an option screen just when the game started to chose between the remote & my joystick.Of course I chose the joystick.I started the game through Steam with VR checked but again I got a crash through toOculus home screen.The next time I tried i got a freeze.

[Blitzen]

In steam (not steam vr) settings/controller/generic controller configurator

For me unflagging this option solved everything

If you don't find when i go home i will send a screenshot

Many thanks- I have found this opened it up &unchecked everything inside right? I'm not sure what else you might mean by 'unflagging' other than doing this.

[Virus*]

yes it is what i was meaning....let us know if it fixed

[dburne]

Not sure why the X-Box controller for Oculus  would even be relevant. I have not even turned on my X-Box controller in many months, long before I started flying BoS in VR... before I even had Steam VR installed.

 

Blitzen, I assume you are starting Steam as you have the Steam version of the game and running from there. Otherwise Steam would not even need to be run, just Steam VR.

 

Regarding Steam VR, you are not running the Beta of it are you? If so, get rid of it and run the regular Steam VR version.

You do not even have to launch Steam VR, launching BoS will automatically start Steam VR for you - at least it does for me.

Edited June 21, 2017 by dburne

[Blitzen]

I cannot get the in game VR option to stay active.after re-checking rebbot , it won't I must do it manually...Then when I do it is unchecked....

[HunDread]

I did as you suggested:installed the remote controller that i had not done before.This led to some progress; when I hit the screen icon to start the sim & re-checked in-game VR optionI got an option screen just when the game started to chose between the remote & my joystick.Of course I chose the joystick.I started the game through Steam with VR checked but again I got a crash through toOculus home screen.The next time I tried i got a freeze.

Did you also (re)do the rift setup thing through oculus home with the controller connected? I mean that annoying several page setup that makes sure everything is fine.

[Blitzen]

Did you also (re)do the rift setup thing through oculus home with the controller connected? I mean that annoying several page setup that makes sure everything is fine.

I'm not sure.The only thing that came up during install was the Xbox controller set up.When that came up. instead of using the Xbox button I used one of the buttons on the joystick, but then I had no idea what to do next so i exited the setup.that button appeared to have registered because  it worked briefly on the Home Page to get rid of the games to purchase screens.Could you describe when this setup takes place? Perhaps I should un-install rift & start on square one?

  Of course this doesn't explain why the in-game option doesn't stay checked off,does it? A friend says about the only thing left to do is un-install the Steam version of BoS and then re-install it & Rift at the same time? In going through all of this for several hours yesterday he also nothed that stean VR refers to many of the VR options with "Vive" in the copy line.I'm sure this makes no difference but still it is odd.

[dburne]

You can run full setup from within Oculus Home.

 

With Oculus Home started, remove you headset and work with the Oculus Home menu on your monitor.

Click on the gear icon in upper right.

Choose settings, click on the devices tab.

Upper right you will see a configure Rift, click on the drop down and choose Full Setup.

 

If you never made it all the way through full setup, you should definitely do this. A bit of a PITB, but a necessary one.

Edited June 22, 2017 by dburne

[Blitzen]

You can run full setup from within Oculus Home.

 

With Oculus Home started, remove you headset and work with the Oculus Home menu on your monitor.

Click on the gear icon in upper right.

Choose settings, click on the devices tab.

Upper right you will see a configure Rift, click on the drop down and choose Full Setup.

 

If you never made it all the way through full setup, you should definitely do this. A bit of a PITB, but a necessary one.

Yes I did do the full set up & watched the demos,and saw that everything including the Xbox remote was installed &  working, ..it says I'm ready to go, but I still have the problem of disappearing VR check in game.After checking the box 7 checking install 7 reboot.Itdoesn't re-boot automatically ,I have to do it and when I do the check mark is gone.I haven't been able to start VR in game at all ,let alone seeing if the joystick is working

[Blitzen]

Just a thought: Could my problems be in some way related to the fact i have two installs of the sim?One is steam buthe other is the initial install which wasn't that I have kept around in its original location?

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

You're not supposed to change anything in SteamVR as an Oculus user. Use the Oculus Home software for it. You can download Oculus Tray Tool, start that, and inject SteamVR runtime into Oculus Home.

 

SteamVR is to be kept on "nonbeta", default settings, and manually disabled Chaperone! 

 

Then order of start is as followed:

 

Start OTT and Oculus Home

Start Steam (thus you can start IL-2 VR later)

Start SteamVR from within Oculus Home's Library

Start IL-2 VR

 

 

P.S. in the Oculus Tray Tool you can disable ASW for IL-2.exe, as IL-2 bugs ASW kaputt, and also use proper SS to increase the sharpness drastically (no more issues IDing enemy planes).

 

 

Viola. Oculus setup settings, SS, no ASW, and you will be future-proof safe from any shitty SteamVR dingly-dongle controller-confusions.

Edited June 23, 2017 by 1CAG_Fenris_Wolf

[Blitzen]

I had the same problem, check in the steam options if you have the flag on management for generic controllers...if so unflag it.

This os what I have to play game in non-VR 

 

in attempts to start in VR I get a message that says it doesn't recognize the KBSim stick:I think this is the Xbox wireless is still connected....but at this point I've tried so many times I'm not sure.Generally it seems to require me in Steam to program keys on Xbox controller or am I wrong?Is it telling me to somehow do keystroke commands for my KB stick(????)This doesn't make sense to me & doesn't seem to work either.Then I should be able to start VR game from VR Home, but I have had no luck doing this either.

As mentioned elsewhere n this threadI can't get the in game VR box to stay checked.After reboot & start in regular mode or in attempts to start while in VR mode it un-checks itself.I'm wondering if this is something that automatically happens when you have a succesfuk start in VR....something that is obviously eluding me..

Edited June 24, 2017 by Blitzen

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

You're trying to start the game from within SteamVR (beta or not) environment. Do it from the Steam Library on your monitor.

 

Posting here again:

 

The correct 101 guide to set things up for the Rift in the first time is this:

 

Use the Steam version of IL-2 (check)

Download SteamVR  (if you have already, default all its settings)

Download Oculus Tray Tool   (google)

 

In Oculus Tray Tool, "inject SteamVR" into Oculus Home, turn ASW off (bugged in IL-2)

 

 

Start Oculus Home

Start SteamVR from within Oculus Home

 

On your monitor, check SteamVR settings - disable "SteamVR beta"

Run and finish the Room setup in SteamVR, select "standing/seated for limited space"

 

 

Check every point on that list, now you have walked through the important first setup steps.

 

 

 

To start IL-2 from now on (chronological order is mandatory) :

 

1. Start Oculus Tray Tool 

2. Start Oculus Home & Steam

3. Start SteamVR from within Oculus Home 

4. In Steam Library, navigate to VR tab, find IL-2, select "Play in VR"   (if there is only the blue button "Play", you did something wrong)

5. Only now, you put on the Rift!

 

(Controller connected anywhere - not even once - do not have controllers connected. In doubt, pull out batteries/restart PC.)

 

Good luck and enjoy the clouds!

Edited June 25, 2017 by 1CAG_Fenris_Wolf

[Thrud]

I solved Blitzen's issue. He had some "reshader or sweet efx" program running too. It took me a bit dig it out of his machine. Once that was done everything worked as people have described in the start up proceedures posted in this sub forum.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Thrud

[Blitzen]

I solved Blitzen's issue. He had some "reshader or sweet efx" program running too. It took me a bit dig it out of his machine. Once that was done everything worked as people have described in the start up proceedures posted in this sub forum.

Many many thanks...that app good as it works was not easy to recognize as the offender & not all that easy to uninstall...so thanks Thrud ( a rose by any other name...) I can rest easy knowing I will have VR up & going for the new Spitfire & new scripted campaign!