problem with manual propeller pitch on 109

[Azdack]

hello,

If I want to manage manually my propeller pitch on a 109.  The config I set for propeller pitch management (left part of the throttle of my new Saitek-55) doen't work beside it works for the management of propeller pitch of other planes...Which key do I have to configure in engine settings into the game to be able to manage manually the propeller pitch of a 109 (set on automatic by default into the game) as soos as I select "first engine manual propeller pitch" ? Thanks for answers.

[Riderocket]

109 pitch isn't an axis, so you have to set it to buttons.

 

(same as pe2 s.35)

[kalbuth]

RL 109 had a 2 way switch under the thumb, on the throttle, for this, so it's mapped to buttons instead of axis in the sim. RShift-Plus/Minus by default.

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

TBH using an axis to fly manual prop pitch in the 109 sounds like it wouldn't work out too well anyway. Just set up the buttons and listen to the engine. Doesn't take too long to get the hang of once you've started.

[kalbuth]

Addiotnnal question : Is there a clear advantage to running manual prop pitch in a 109? I do it only when engine is damaged

[Willy__]

Is there a clear advantage to running manual prop pitch in a 109? I do it only when engine is damaged

 

The most usefull use of manual prop use on a 109/190 that I can think of is for fuel economy. Reducing rpm's when the engine is damage will prolong its life aswell.

Edited June 15, 2017 by JAGER_Staiger

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

The most obvious one is when reducing power in a dive, and then adding it again to zoom back up. The automatic spools all the way back and then you add throttle and have no thrust because the propeller is slow. Other than that yes in dogfights etc you get a bit more performance but its not huge.

[LukeFF]

Best to just leave it in automatic mode, as the effort needed to try to gain additional performance isn't really worth it.

[Czar66]

In a dogfight, the extra workload is detrimental for you more than you can get a performance gain from your engine.

Set it to buttons to manage fuel consumption in cruise and prolong engine health when damaged as stated above.

Edited June 15, 2017 by Czar66

[Asgar]

Best to just leave it in automatic mode, as the effort needed to try to gain additional performance isn't really worth it.

true. but it's very useful when the engine is damaged. 0.8ata at 1500 RPM keeps the engine going a lot longer than automatic controls

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

I wouldn't say so. And it really isn't that much of a workload. After a bit of practice it's just goes automatically and you don't think about it. It also gives you a much better feel for what your airplane is doing. When you're accellerating and decellerating etc etc.

[Riderocket]

I wouldn't say so. And it really isn't that much of a workload. After a bit of practice it's just goes automatically and you don't think about it. It also gives you a much better feel for what your airplane is doing. When you're accellerating and decellerating etc etc.

Sounds a bit like flying Russian aircraft

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

Not really but ok I guess.....

[LukeFF]

I wouldn't say so. And it really isn't that much of a workload. After a bit of practice it's just goes automatically and you don't think about it. It also gives you a much better feel for what your airplane is doing. When you're accelerating and decelerating etc etc.

If that was the case in reality, then the Germans would have never bothered with automatic engine management. The whole point of setting it up like they did was so that, in the heat of combat, all the pilot had to worry about in regards to the engine was the position of the throttle. Twiddling around with an RPM switch and checking the tachometer to ensure the engine isn't overspeeding dramatically reduces one's situational awareness.

Edited June 16, 2017 by LukeFF

[FTC_Riksen]

In combat situation I use it in auto mode but when diving, climbing or extending I only use it on manual along with manual rad control. I feel I can squeeze a faster response for the engine that way ... but in combat, like LukeFF said ... all that workload will reduce ur SA

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

Good thing I never said anything about reality then huh?

 

Also you don't fly it by gauges, but by ear, listening to the engine. Like I said the SA impact is minimal, if it even is there, after you are used to it. That's sorta like saying having to operate the rudder at the same time as the elevators and ailerons will reduce SA, so just unplug the pedals.