Jason - Please can we have a Hurri?

[sinned]

I don't see any toxic mobs... I see your posts, I see others responding, but I don't see a toxic mob.

I would suggest a large coffee is in order, and of course the removal of whatever you have stuffed up your hoop, lol!

You dont see one as you are in school of one.

 

Try better next time with whatever you are trying to do with the second phrase.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Well, that went south in a Hurri.

[OrLoK]

Well, that went south in a Hurri.

I see what you did there

 

@everyone else

 

I see nothing wrong with fantasising about what we would like to see in the game, be it practical or not.

 

Even if the devs planned not to make any more collectors planes, it's nice for them to know how some of us feel about plane X or tank Y, it doesnt hurt anyone, nor does it force the devs into doing anything they don't want to.

 

We all support the game, but one should be judged by the level of support one gives or how one supports the game.

[LukeFF]

You really don't like that Ju-52...

 

No kidding. It's like the plane personally insulted him in a previous life. Or perhaps he was a Ju 52 pilot shot down repeatedly during the war? 

[sinned]

Wow a rolling smiley face? is that an insult for german veterans who died while serving his country?

 

No wonder this guy likes to pretend to act like an admin but never is one

What a character. This guy needs more maturity like bearcat has one.

Quite disturbing insult to fallen pilots of ww2.

[Danziger]

No kidding. It's like the plane personally insulted him in a previous life. Or perhaps he was a Ju 52 pilot shot down repeatedly during the war?

He's always there wherever the Ju-52 is mentioned. He's almost like a superhero. I know! We can call him Anti-Ju-52man!

[dburne]

What an interesting thead on the Hurricane...

[Trooper117]

Well, that went south in a Hurri.

 

lol!... now that was funny 

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Tough crowd, no up votes.

[FTC_Etherlight]

I think I'll have to go rob a jeweler or something and buy everything the Devs have to offer 10 times. Maybe...maybe then sinned-senpai will also recognize me as a valid and honorabru supporter of this sim. :D

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Thanks, I live for puns and upvotes!

[Y29.Layin_Scunion]

If my dog were as miserable as you sinned, I'd shave his butt and train him to walk backwards.

 

But seriously....chill out. Positive vibes! State your opinion, don't whine and cry about it. That will never be perceived well by anyone.

 

Nobody likes a whiner.

 

Anyways, would the Hurricane be rocking 2 ShVAKs?! I'd hope so if they ever would develop it.

 

Personally, I'd hope the devs stay concentrated on what's immediately in front of them for now. Get BoK all in order before working on another collector plane. Just my worthless opinion

[Danziger]

I personally hope they take a small break between BoK and BoMidway for making a few collector planes to flesh out the Eastern Front set a bit more. We still need an allied transport and some reconnaissance planes.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I don't see recon being a very high priority at the moment. The DC-3, however, fits the Pacific perfectly and can then be used with a proper skin job on the EF. I'd be willing to bet it is a collector pretty early in the Pacific development process.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

I personally hope they take a small break between BoK and BoMidway for making a few collector planes to flesh out the Eastern Front set a bit more. We still need an allied transport and some reconnaissance planes.

My Prediction for the Interrim time is that they will Tweak the Flight Dynamics, I promise you that such a BIG Change as the complete Flight Model Rework for the Rudder/Yaw Fix will take some tweaking afterwards as well. I  bet you it will have it's faults at first they will have to Fix. 

 

But should they add more Planes nonetheless, I guess it will be either 

 

A: One big new Multicrew Plane for VVS

    My Guesses

• Il-4 Medium Bomber (likely)
• B-25 Medium Bomber (unlikely, but likely later)
• PBY Catalina (unlikely, but likely later)
• C-47/DC-3/Li-2/PS-84/Nakajima L2D (possibly?)
• SB-2 (unlikely as well, but would be nice)

B: One or Two Single or Two Seaters

    My Guesses:

• I-153 (hopefully, the made a Film about it after all)
• Hurri (likely)
• Yak-9 (likely)
• Po-2 (No Clue, would be funny if they did, would Pre-Order immediately, depends on Ju-52 Success)
• Fw-189 (with a Recon Mechanic hopefully)
• Fi-156 Storch (highly unlikely)

C: A couple of small Change Variants of Existing Aircraft

    My Guesses

• Bf109G-6 (most likely)
• Bf109E-7/B (with DB601Aa)
• He-111H Pre H-6 Model with two internal Bomb Bays
• Ju-88A-4 with more Armament Options and Mg131 Defensive Guns
• Yak-7-37 with a 37mm Autocannon

D: Two or Three Major Different Versions

     My Guesses:

• P-40 B/C or K/M. So either an early Model with lower Weight or a Later Model with more POWAAAA!!!!
• LaGG-3 42 to 66 Series with much improved Performance
• LaGG-3 1 to 3 Series with 5 Nose Mounted Guns and good overall Performance and PA Engine
• Yak-1 early Version with PA Engine and more Glass
• Ju-87B or R
• Bf-110F, DB601E Engines, between Bf110G and E. 
• Ju-88C with Metal Nose and Front Guns
• A-20G
• La-5F late series with Bubble Canopy (most likely)
• Ju-52 Floatplane 

Edited June 11, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann

[CanadaOne]

I love how you embellish yourself. Yak 1b for your own flying or purely for support of the dev? Where is your ju52? Not worth your definition of commerce or your support eh?

Do some gifting too and maybe i will buy into your "i support for dev" mental masturbation.

 

Please.

 

I cannot fail to notice that you did not wish me "Happy flying".

 

Now I'm sad.

[Danziger]

<p>

 

My Prediction for the Interrim time is that they will Tweak the Flight Dynamics, I promise you that such a BIG Change as the complete Flight Model Rework for the Rudder/Yaw Fix will take some tweaking afterwards as well. I bet you it will have it's faults at first they will have to Fix.

 

But should they add more Planes nonetheless either

 

A: One big new Multicrew Plane for VVS

My Guesses

• Il-4 Medium Bomber (likely)
• B-25 Medium Bomber (unlikely, but likely later)
• PBY Catalina (unlikely, but likely later)
• C-47/DC-3/Li-2/PS-84/Nakajima L2D (possibly?)
• SB-2 (unlikely as well, but would be nice)

B: One or Two Single or Two Seaters

My Guesses:

• I-153 (hopefully, the made a Film about it after all)
• Hurri (likely)
• Yak-9 (likely)
• Po-2 (No Clue, would be funny if they did, would Pre-Order immediately, depends on Ju-52 Success)
• Fw-189 (with a Recon Mechanic hopefully)
• Fi-156 Storch (highly unlikely)

C: A couple of small Change Variants of Existing Aircraft

My Guesses

• Bf109G-6 (most likely)
• Bf109E-7/B (with DB601Aa)
• He-111H Pre H-6 Model with two internal Bomb Bays
• Ju-88A-4 with more Armament Options and Mg131 Defensive Guns
• Yak-7-37 with a 37mm Autocannon

D: Two or Three Major Different Versions

My Guesses:

• P-40 B/C or K/M. So either an early Model with lower Weight or a Later Model with more POWAAAA!!!!
• LaGG-3 42 to 66 Series with much improved Performance
• LaGG-3 1 to 3 Series with 5 Nose Mounted Guns and good overall Performance and PA Engine
• Yak-1 early Version with PA Engine and more Glass
• Ju-87B or R
• Bf-110F, DB601E Engines, between Bf110G and E.
• Ju-88C with Metal Nose and Front Guns
• A-20G
• La-5F late series with Bubble Canopy (most likely)
• Ju-52 Floatplane

Any of that stuff would be awesome. A six plane Eastern Front expansion set DLC for $50USD hard currency would be nice.

[Bullets]

 

My Prediction for the Interrim time is that they will Tweak the Flight Dynamics, I promise you that such a BIG Change as the complete Flight Model Rework for the Rudder/Yaw Fix will take some tweaking afterwards as well. I  bet you it will have it's faults at first they will have to Fix. 

 

But should they add more Planes nonetheless either

 

A: One big new Multicrew Plane for VVS

    My Guesses

• Il-4 Medium Bomber (likely)
• B-25 Medium Bomber (unlikely, but likely later)
• PBY Catalina (unlikely, but likely later)
• C-47/DC-3/Li-2/PS-84/Nakajima L2D (possibly?)
• SB-2 (unlikely as well, but would be nice)

B: One or Two Single or Two Seaters

    My Guesses:

• I-153 (hopefully, the made a Film about it after all)
• Hurri (likely)
• Yak-9 (likely)
• Po-2 (No Clue, would be funny if they did, would Pre-Order immediately, depends on Ju-52 Success)
• Fw-189 (with a Recon Mechanic hopefully)
• Fi-156 Storch (highly unlikely)

C: A couple of small Change Variants of Existing Aircraft

    My Guesses

• Bf109G-6 (most likely)
• Bf109E-7/B (with DB601Aa)
• He-111H Pre H-6 Model with two internal Bomb Bays
• Ju-88A-4 with more Armament Options and Mg131 Defensive Guns
• Yak-7-37 with a 37mm Autocannon

D: Two or Three Major Different Versions

     My Guesses:

• P-40 B/C or K/M. So either an early Model with lower Weight or a Later Model with more POWAAAA!!!!
• LaGG-3 42 to 66 Series with much improved Performance
• LaGG-3 1 to 3 Series with 5 Nose Mounted Guns and good overall Performance and PA Engine
• Yak-1 early Version with PA Engine and more Glass
• Ju-87B or R
• Bf-110F, DB601E Engines, between Bf110G and E. 
• Ju-88C with Metal Nose and Front Guns
• A-20G
• La-5F late series with Bubble Canopy (most likely)
• Ju-52 Floatplane 

 

 

All of this sounds like a f***ing dream     

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

All of this sounds like a f***ing dream     

My Predictions are usually Correct, it's almost a Curse. 

You just have to disconnect your Thinking from your Biases, Emotions and Desires. It surprises me how unironically People let their thinking be determined by their Feelings and how Emotionally invested they get in things they turn out to be Wrong about. 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

[Guest deleted@83466]

get real....

[CanadaOne]

Actually... none of this is real.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Actually... none of this is real.

And therefore all of it is. 

[TheBlackPenguin]

Its all a simulation...But keep going this route and Raaid may appear with quantum theories.

 

I bought the Ju52 and I'd buy and fly the Hurri in a Hurri. I flew the 52 once so far (what was the issue with the 52? Low sales?), but have been slammed with real life issues. You won't see me online...See enough of the forums to know better 

Edited June 12, 2017 by TheBlackPenguin

[CanadaOne]

And therefore all of it is.

 

Cue the existential music.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

 

 

But keep going this route and Raaid may appear with quantum theories

 

He should rename himself to "scouuuurge" 

Cue the existential music.

Well, my Sig has been Existentialist for the last Couple Months and I don't consider changing it any time soon. 

[Beazil]

I'm with the others who don't understand the issue regarding the ju52.

I bought it. So did a lot of other people. Sounds like not as many as some would like to see, at least that's my interpretation. I'm still grateful they put it out there for us to buy if we wanted it. They have released other collector planes as well.... I don't hear a lot of complaints about those. I hope they continue to take risks. After all, not every single plane is going to be popular. Some will be more popular and some less so. I am confident that some of us would buy just about any plane put out just because we enjoy them. But not every single option (plane) will be universally enjoyed by all. I hope that never deters this developer from taking chances though.

 

Hope that made sense.

Edited June 12, 2017 by Beazil

[Danziger]

I'm with the others who don't understand the issue regarding the ju52.

I bought it. So did a lot of other people. Sounds like not as many as some would like to see, at least that's my interpretation. I'm still grateful they put it out there for us to buy if we wanted it. They have released other collector planes as well.... I don't hear a lot of complaints about those. I hope they continue to take risks. After all, not every single plane is going to be popular. Some will be more popular and some less so. I am confident that some of us would buy just about any plane put out just because we enjoy them. But not every single option (plane) will be universally enjoyed by all. I hope that never deters this developer from taking chances though.

 

Hope that made sense.

Exactly. The Macchi doesn't seem to be very popular either. It's pretty rare I see it mentioned. I rarely fly it myself but I'm still very happy they made it.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I'm with the others who don't understand the issue regarding the ju52.

I bought it. So did a lot of other people. Sounds like not as many as some would like to see, at least that's my interpretation. I'm still grateful they put it out there for us to buy if we wanted it. They have released other collector planes as well.... I don't hear a lot of complaints about those. I hope they continue to take risks. After all, not every single plane is going to be popular. Some will be more popular and some less so. I am confident that some of us would buy just about any plane put out just because we enjoy them. But not every single option (plane) will be universally enjoyed by all. I hope that never deters this developer from taking chances though.

 

Hope that made sense.

Everything a small team like this does is taking a chance. The strength, in general, is this team takes calculated chances and doesn't listen to most of our whining without doing the research to back it up first. Hence, the Ju-52, while not a mistake was an example of strong forum support and less than stellar sales. It hasn't made them gun shy on considering our wishes but it does mean it has to fit into their overall vision and finances to make it worth their while. The Hurri may. Some of those other "suggestions" clearly do not.

[Feathered_IV]

The ju-52 is a crucial piece of equipment and remained so from the first day of the war until the last. Likewise, it is probably the only aircraft that will remain relevant and current with every European or Mediterranean expansion that ever gets made throughout the life of this sim. It's excellent value and I thank the devs for including it.

[Wulf]

My Predictions are usually Correct, it's almost a Curse. 

You just have to disconnect your Thinking from your Biases, Emotions and Desires. It surprises me how unironically People let their thinking be determined by their Feelings and how Emotionally invested they get in things they turn out to be Wrong about. 

 

 

Christ, he's finally drifted into the megalomaniacal.  God help us all .....

[J2_Trupobaw]

I do like Ju52. I like all planes. I preordered ju52 and flew it much in mp until i realized i dont see anyone else flying one.

 

What i dont like is ppl who are in denial, like yourself. You just want to believe its the plane thats disliked.

What induces vomit is the shitshow which ppl misled bos dev to develop a poorly sold product, talk about "how sound success it is" and then ask for more non-mainstream plane development based on some non-existent popularity (except the same group of ppl keep commenting on the same post). Asking questionable product to a dev team that is underfunded. A sequel to a product that needs more sales.... this loud minority shitshow makes any online dating scam-"hi handsome, my father is sick and i need to pay for his medical bill" look rather a civilized charity scheme.

 

Hell, it only hurts some moron's wallet and heart.

 

Continuation of this shitshow risks career and lives of the entire team of dedicated and talented developers.

 

-Should I give them some answer about that Hurricane, boss?

-No need, just feed the thread to the wolves and watch community take care of itself.

 

I believe we have rules about personal attacks, profanity and thread derailing, BTW...

Edited June 12, 2017 by Trupobaw

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Christ, he's finally drifted into the megalomaniacal.  God help us all .....

Nah, I learned this Trick from a Friend with Aspergers. And I'm not entirely sure that I'm not at least a little Aspy myself. And that's why I find that by having no Stakes in the Game it is easiest to be correct in Predictions.

I do have trouble in some Fields of Interaction and I do get awfully Confused sometimes. But I also enjoy Chaos out of Principle. 

 

I'm just too Scared to go an get a Diagnose, because, well as I said, I'm almost always correct. 

[Dutchvdm]

 

My Prediction for the Interrim time is that they will Tweak the Flight Dynamics, I promise you that such a BIG Change as the complete Flight Model Rework for the Rudder/Yaw Fix will take some tweaking afterwards as well. I  bet you it will have it's faults at first they will have to Fix. 

 

But should they add more Planes nonetheless, I guess it will be either 

 

A: One big new Multicrew Plane for VVS

    My Guesses

• Il-4 Medium Bomber (likely)
• B-25 Medium Bomber (unlikely, but likely later)
• PBY Catalina (unlikely, but likely later)
• C-47/DC-3/Li-2/PS-84/Nakajima L2D (possibly?)
• SB-2 (unlikely as well, but would be nice)

B: One or Two Single or Two Seaters

    My Guesses:

• I-153 (hopefully, the made a Film about it after all)
• Hurri (likely)
• Yak-9 (likely)
• Po-2 (No Clue, would be funny if they did, would Pre-Order immediately, depends on Ju-52 Success)
• Fw-189 (with a Recon Mechanic hopefully)
• Fi-156 Storch (highly unlikely)

C: A couple of small Change Variants of Existing Aircraft

    My Guesses

• Bf109G-6 (most likely)
• Bf109E-7/B (with DB601Aa)
• He-111H Pre H-6 Model with two internal Bomb Bays
• Ju-88A-4 with more Armament Options and Mg131 Defensive Guns
• Yak-7-37 with a 37mm Autocannon

D: Two or Three Major Different Versions

     My Guesses:

• P-40 B/C or K/M. So either an early Model with lower Weight or a Later Model with more POWAAAA!!!!
• LaGG-3 42 to 66 Series with much improved Performance
• LaGG-3 1 to 3 Series with 5 Nose Mounted Guns and good overall Performance and PA Engine
• Yak-1 early Version with PA Engine and more Glass
• Ju-87B or R
• Bf-110F, DB601E Engines, between Bf110G and E. 
• Ju-88C with Metal Nose and Front Guns
• A-20G
• La-5F late series with Bubble Canopy (most likely)
• Ju-52 Floatplane 

 

 

Fantastic lineup. Although i think it kind off ambitious, one can always hope. 

 

One thing though. Don't we already have the most powerful LAGG-3? 

 

Grt M

[Trooper117]

I predict 'egg on face' be sure...

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Fantastic lineup. Although i think it kind off ambitious, one can always hope. 

 

One thing though. Don't we already have the most powerful LAGG-3? 

 

Grt M

These are Either/Or Lists. I hope they go with the one Big Multicrew Aircraft, preferrably a Catalina in Metric. 

 

In terms of Raw Horsepower there was little Change, but they made some Aerodynamic Changes to later Models. Things like Remodelled Exhaust Ports, Cowling, Water Cooler, Landing Gear Coverings, Slats, less draggy Balancers, Retractable Tailwheel, improved Supercharger Induction etc. 

These later models are about 30-45kph faster than the ingame seria 29. 

Just like Yak-1-69 and Yak-1-127. Same Power, Aerodynamic Improvments. 

 

I predict 'egg on face' be sure...

Won't happen. I will predict and evade. 

[CanadaOne]

Nice! The Yak-1B is so much fun to fly.

 

 

Morning.

 

Had a stupid busy weekend and no time for flying. Just spent a first few minutes in the new Yak-1B and it is indeed fun to fly. With the nice performance and low ammo count, feels like a sniper plane. it's all head shots with that thing. 

 

Off to work, and Yak time when I get home.

[SqueakyS]

I just want to show my support for the Hurri. And the storch (Though I would prefer the Arado Ar 196  ) 

[dburne]

The Hurri is a fun plane to fly no doubt, my preference over it though would be the Spitfire so am glad they chose to model that one first. 

[pilotpierre]

The ju-52 is a crucial piece of equipment and remained so from the first day of the war until the last. Likewise, it is probably the only aircraft that will remain relevant and current with every European or Mediterranean expansion that ever gets made throughout the life of this sim. It's excellent value and I thank the devs for including it.

Well said feathered one.