Some P 39 love...

[BlitzPig_EL]

 

Just because.

 

I so wish this wasn't going to be the last BoK aircraft that we get...

Edited June 3, 2017 by BlitzPig_EL

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

Beautiful pic! Thanks 

[YoYo]

Yes, Im waiting too, not read yet but this book in on my shelf:

 

 

In english: https://www.amazon.com/Red-Star-Airacobra-Memoirs-Fighter-ebook/dp/B005AU15QI .

[CanadaOne]

I want one.

[DD_Arthur]

 

Nice skins

[Voidhunger]

Does anyone have combat reports of cobras 37mm gun against German fighters?

 

and combat reports of MK108 cannon against fighters?

 

Edit: I think that in Rudels book he mentioned that his Stuka survived some 37mm shots to the wings from Airacobra

Edited June 3, 2017 by Voidhunger

[sallee]

 

Nice skins

Very interesting photo! Must be 601 squadron, but it doesn't look like Duxford, so I wonder if it's Acaster Malbis a couple of miles down the road from me. Nothing much left there now.

Thanks for posting.

 

I must say, they all look very bemused....

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

P-39 is love, P-39 is life!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:biggrin:

 

 

[Thad]

Salutations,

 

A very unique aircraft. I am looking forward with expectations as to how well it will be made to perform in our IL2.

[DD_Arthur]

Very interesting photo! Must be 601 squadron, but it doesn't look like Duxford, so I wonder if it's Acaster Malbis a couple of miles down the road from me. Nothing much left there now.

Thanks for posting.

 

I must say, they all look very bemused....

 

Hi sallee.  I pinched it from the ever useful Key Publishing forums here;

 

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?141297-RAF-P-39-service-career

 

If you follow the discussion there are links to a lot of interesting stuff about the P39.  They also came to the conclusion that this photo was from a press day to show-off the RAF's new fighter from Uncle Sam or possibly Marshal Petain.....so it's August '41.

 

I think that's the north eastern side of Duxford looking toward what is now the M11 boundary. 

 

Then I made my head hurt by using my brain .   Press days?  Newsreels, of course! 

 

Pathe News didn't have anything but British Movietone has a nugget of pure gold

 

http://www.aparchive.com/search?startd=&endd=&allFilters=British+Movietone%7C43894%3APartner%3APartner&query=raf+airacobra&advsearchStartDateFilter=&advsearchEndDateFilter=&searchFilterHdSDFormat=All&searchFilterDigitized=All&searchFiltercolorFormat=All&searchFilteraspectratioFormat=All

[AndyJWest]

Excellent find, DD_Arthur. 

[Luger1969]

Hi guys. Dont know if anybody has yet posted this, so here goes: 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/P%2039

[ShamrockOneFive]

More than any other aircraft set I have to say that the Battle of Kuban set has me excited for nearly every plane. November is going to be a heck of a month if the schedule holds with the P-39L-1, A-20B, and Hs129B-2 all being released in that month.

 

Hopefully in the next couple of months we'll see the early stages of the P-39 model although that I'm sure will make everyone want it even more.

[pilotpierre]

Yes, Im waiting too, not read yet but this book in on my shelf:

 

 

In english: https://www.amazon.com/Red-Star-Airacobra-Memoirs-Fighter-ebook/dp/B005AU15QI .

 

Thanks, purchased to read just prior to Airacobra release.

[sallee]

Hi sallee.  I pinched it from the ever useful Key Publishing forums here;

 

http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?141297-RAF-P-39-service-career

 

If you follow the discussion there are links to a lot of interesting stuff about the P39.  They also came to the conclusion that this photo was from a press day to show-off the RAF's new fighter from Uncle Sam or possibly Marshal Petain.....so it's August '41.

 

I think that's the north eastern side of Duxford looking toward what is now the M11 boundary. 

 

Then I made my head hurt by using my brain .   Press days?  Newsreels, of course! 

 

Pathe News didn't have anything but British Movietone has a nugget of pure gold

 

http://www.aparchive.com/search?startd=&endd=&allFilters=British+Movietone|43894%3APartner%3APartner&query=raf+airacobra&advsearchStartDateFilter=&advsearchEndDateFilter=&searchFilterHdSDFormat=All&searchFilterDigitized=All&searchFiltercolorFormat=All&searchFilteraspectratioFormat=All

Brilliant. Thanks, Arthur. Certainly looks like an "event", doesn't it!

[Luger1969]

Hi guys. Dont know if anybody has yet posted this, so here goes: 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/home/P%2039

Sorry chaps. This 1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xyarflr7bgu3e16/Pilot%E2%80%99s%20flight%20operating%20instructions%20for%20army%20models%20P-39K-1%20and%20P-39L-1%20AIRPLANES.pdf?dl=0

[Cloyd]

I expect to drop from the sky a lot, then crash and burn learning to fly this plane. It will be SO much fun!

Edited June 4, 2017 by Cloyd

[BlitzPig_EL]

The spins will be epic Cloyd.

 

 

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

[Trooper117]

I managed to recover the P-39 from it's 'spin of death' quite a few times in the old IL2 1946...

 

From the manual... 'Deliberate spinning is not recommended' ... the spin requires about 4000ft for a 3 turn spin.

I will dig out the manual to get the full spin recovery a bit later, but I seem to remember that if you didn't correct it in 2 to 3 turns, then the advise was 'bail out', because you would end up in a large hole in the ground!

 

I might add, I ignored that advise on occasion, and it's true, I piled in each time, lol!

[Boaty-McBoatface]

That tumbling spin is incredible. Was it easy to get into? Never played 1946 so don't know how dangerous it was.

[ShamrockOneFive]

That tumbling spin is incredible. Was it easy to get into? Never played 1946 so don't know how dangerous it was.

 

It changed a fair bit over the years but the basic of it was this. The plane was fairly responsive and maneuverable up to the stall and then once it began to spin and tumble... it was rare that you could properly get out of it. Definitely not a plane to get into a nasty stall situation.

[AndyJWest]

Accurately modelling post-stall behaviour - including spins - must be the most difficult part of flight modelling. It is probably asking too much to expect the BoK P-39 to reproduce everything shown in the video above exactly.

[=WH=PangolinWranglin]

I'm nervous they'll make stalling to touchy and it'll spin at the slightest provocation, rather than at stall speed like in this video. 

[Heliopause]

Duxford 2009

 

[Klaue]

Sorry chaps. This 1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xyarflr7bgu3e16/Pilot’s%20flight%20operating%20instructions%20for%20army%20models%20P-39K-1%20and%20P-39L-1%20AIRPLANES.pdf?dl=0

 

Great find.

[Lusekofte]

Its success in the eastern-front does not reflect its service in Pasific and Europe. Of course it got something to do with altitude. I am just not sure it will reflect the gameplay either

[Herne]

The video did make me laugh, on the one hand it was saying "Look Spin Recovery is Easy" and at the end you had the inexperienced pilot pancake into someones farm.

[PA_Keko_]

Here you have one more, is very good video

 

Edited June 5, 2017 by Keko_

[Gambit21]

Did you guys read "To Fly and Fight" by Bud Anderson?

He recounted a conversation with a German pilot years after the war, who remarked to him about the P-39.

 

"You just hit them any old place and they go tumbling in...did you ever fly one of those?"

 

I don't have time to pull the book of the shelf and look for the name of the German pilot...can't remember off the top of my head.

[Trooper117]

Bud gives a good account of what it's like to fly the P-39... he loved it .

[Wulf]

 

 

Anyone see a chute after the last spin; with the "new pilot"?  I didn't.

[7.GShAP/Silas]

Anyone see a chute after the last spin; with the "new pilot"?  I didn't.

 

 

No.  I'd bet he went in with it.

[=WH=PangolinWranglin]

 

 

No.  I'd bet he went in with it.

They said in the video that he bailed at around a thousand feet. 

[BlitzPig_EL]

Bud gives a good account of what it's like to fly the P-39... he loved it .

 

I seem to recall reading that Yeager liked it as well.

[US63_SpadLivesMatter]

I seem to recall reading that Yeager liked it as well.

Yeager trained on it and said it was his favorite IIRC.

[LukeFF]

...and it's big brother, the P-63. Took these photos at the Hangar 24 AirFest in Redlands a few weekends ago.

 

[Riderocket]

P-39 L-1

 

Unlimited : 2600 RPM @ 37.2"

15 Minutes : 3000 RPM @ 42"

5 Minutes : 3000 RPM @ 51"

Water out : Optimal 105°-115° / Maximum 125°

Oil in : Optimal 60°-80° / Maximum 95°

[Trooper117]

P-39 K and L flight manual here... https://www.scribd.com/document/61806618/Pilot-Flight-Manual-for-the-P-39K-L

[CIA_Windhawk]

Tricycle gear? Ewww!