Looking for a skin/markings of 9./NJG 5 110 Nightfighter June 1944

[Mysticpuma]

Hi chaps.

I recently found out that Lt Gerhard Wagner of 9./NJG 5 most likely shot down a Halifax bomber flown by a friend of mines Uncle. I am looking for details/markings of Wagner's aircraft if anyone can help?

 

Detail of the event are here:

 

Base: R.A.F. Breighton, North Yorkshire

Unit: 78 Sqdn. Bomber Command

Aircraft: Halifax Mk III, serial LK840 EY-J

Target: Laon, Aisne, France - Marshalling Yards

Incident: The aircraft crashed at Quinquempoix killing four of the crew. Sgts. A. Gill and W. C. Brown were taken prisoner. Sgt. S. W. Fox survived and escaped.

 

 

I realise that it is a 1944 event but I hope you don't mind me asking for assistance in the markings of (I presume) his Me-110?

 

Cheers, MP

[A-E-Hartmann]

Hi MusticPuma,

 

I think you're talking about this pilot :

Wagner began his Luftwaffe training in late 1940, and then after pilot training became a night fighter pilot. He was promoted to Leutnant in February 1942. From 20 September 1943 he was the technical officer of 8. Staffel III/NJG 5. In March 1944 III/NJG 5 moved to France and on 10 June 1944 he became commander of 9.Staffel III/NJG 5 and promoted to Oberleutant in August. On 2 August 1944 during a low level attack on the Allied bridgehead in France he was shot down by flak and suffered serious burns. Captured by the Allied he was taken PoW and his injuries treated, eventually attending a military hospital in the USA. In February 1946 he was released and returned to Germany, to undergo further medical treatment through to 1948. Victories: 4 Bombers between 24.12.1943 and 21.7.1944.

 

 

 

Here are the 1944 victories

 

 

31.03.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. £ 40-60 km. N.N.W. Frankfurt: 5.900 m

28.05.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 Halifax £ LF in See: 3.800 m.

08.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. £ UD at 1.800 m. Magny-en-Vexin

08.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. £ UD-AD: 1.600 m. [Mantes area]

08.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 8./NJG 5 4-mot. Flgz. £ 20-40 km. S.W. Paris: 1.300 m.

22.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 9./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. £ S.E. FuF. Minke: at 3.200 m.

23.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 9./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. £ 20-30 km. vor FuF. Willi 010° at 3.000 m.

25.06.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 9./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. £ QC-PC: 2.600 m.

05.07.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 9./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. £ 05 Ost S/RD at 2.500 m. [N. Aumale

08.07.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 9./NJG 5 B-26 £ N.W. Amiens: 2.300 m.

21.07.44 Ltn. Gerhard Wagner 9./NJG 5 4-mot. Flzg. £ 50 km. N.W. Lille at 2.800 m.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 29, 2017 by A-E-Hartmann

[Juri_JS]

I don't know which plane Wagner flew during June 1944, but if my information is correct, he flew a Bf 110 G-4 with the code C9+LT, when he was shot down and taken prisoner in early August 1944 on the invasion front.

 

My documents show 14 victories for Wagner, seven of them in June 1944.

Edited May 29, 2017 by Juri_JS

[Retnek]

I knew I've seen the name:

 

 

Here is one plane from NJG 5 - please don't expect too much, there were great variations even within the same squadron:

 

 

Sorry, the source:

 

Luftwaffe Colours Series

David P. Williams

Nachtjaeger Vol2

Night Fighter Units 43-45

ClassicColours

Edited May 29, 2017 by 216th_Retnek

[Retnek]

Two colour profiles with 110 of NJG 5:

 

 

 

Source:

 

Jerry Scuts

Osprey Aircraft of the Aces Series No 20

German Night Fighter Aces of WW2

Osprey Publishing, Oxford 1998

 

 

[A-E-Hartmann]

don't know which plane Wagner flew during June 1944, but if my information is correct, he flew a Bf 110 G-4 with the code C9+LT, when he was shot down and taken prisoner in early August 1944 on the invasion front.

 

C9 is the designation of the NJG / 5.

T is the designation of 9 staffel.

On the other hand, the letter that represents Lt Gehard Wagner 's device I did not find anything.

 

 

I think your code is good.(And the letter L is Yellow).

Edited May 29, 2017 by A-E-Hartmann

[Mysticpuma]

Thanks everyone, really appreciate the details offered.

 

I should have added the date as I realised just that I hadn't. Here are some details from a book:

 

BCL vol 5, page 297.
Shot down by night fighter and crashed near Quinquempoix ( Oise ) , 6 km North of St - Just- en-Chaussee. Those who died lie in Quinquempoix Communal Cemetery.
Op: Laon night of 22/23rd June 1944.
Crew -
F/O. IRWIN, D. L.- RCAF +
Sgt. GILL, A - POW
F/O. FUHR, H. A.- RCAF +
Sgt. SHARRATT, W. S. - POW
F/O. SHEPSTONE, B. +
Sgt. BROWN, W. C. EVD
Sgt. OWEN, T. R. +

No FOX though, and Brown listed as the evader.

Alex

 

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I guess it will be a while before we see a nightfighter with antenna in BoS but I really appreciate your help with this, cheers, MP

[Juri_JS]

Here a few more details of Wagner's two Halifax claims during the night of 23 June:

At 0:28 the first Halifax was shot down southeast of Funkfeuer (radio beacon) Minke, at an altitude of 3200 m.
The second Halifax was shot down at 1:20, northeast of Senlis, 20-30 km away from Funkfeuer Willi.

 

These are the only Halifax claims I can find for the night of 22/23 June 1944, so it is indeed likely that Wagner shot down LK840 EY-J.

 

By the way, if anyone knows a map showing the positions of Luftwaffe nightfighter radio beacons I would love to see it.

Edited May 31, 2017 by Juri_JS

[Retnek]

Something like this maybe:

 

 

with that legend:

 

 

A friendly guy posted it while ago, looks very much the same like a printed version of a map - source:

 

Ries, Karl; Dierich, Wolfgang (1996)

Fliegerhorste und Einsatzhäfen der Luftwaffe. Planskizzen 1935 - 1945.

2. Aufl. Stuttgart: Motorbuch-Verl.

Edited June 12, 2017 by 216th_Retnek

[Retnek]

And another:

 

 

Source, p. 203:

 

Trenkle, Fritz (1979)

Die deutschen Funkmeßverfahren bis 1945

1. Aufl. Stuttgart

Motorbuch-Verl.