Aces High, a massive multiplayer WW2 flight sim goes to steam greenlight

[Thad]

Not all flight simmers are crotchety old geezers...

Hey... I resemble that remark.

[No601_Prangster]

I think the 1990's want their graphics back!

 

Just saw this on their forum..... this is what AH might be in the future

 

 

[bugsix]

I think the 1990's want their graphics back!

 

 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2017 by bugsix

[Dutchvdm]

 

 

 

You are not proving him wrong by posting more screenshots. There is no denying that this looks dated. 

 

Grt M

[bugsix]

You are not proving him wrong by posting more screenshots. There is no denying that this looks dated. 

 

Grt M

 

Imagine the strain on bandwith in todays times if it had top notch graphics with 500+ players,  it's simply not possible today.  To have a massive environment there need to be sacrifices made.

[No601_Prangster]

The graphic the GPU is handling have no impact on the netcode or the bandwidth used.

[Feathered_IV]

This kind of makes me nostalgic for that Stigler guy, who would always be on the ubi forums about 15 years ago - banging on about his Targetware.

[Uufflakke]

This kind of makes me nostalgic for that Stigler guy, who would always be on the ubi forums about 15 years ago - banging on about his Targetware.

 

Or the other Ubi member Stalkervision. Remember him?

In the screenshot section always showing screenies of another WWII flight sim and promoting it. Forgot which one it was, I only know it was a Battle of Britain sim.

Perhaps BOB2 or so.

 

Must have been 10 years ago. A trip down memory lane.

[Gambit21]

Imagine the strain on bandwith in todays times if it had top notch graphics with 500+ players,  it's simply not possible today.  To have a massive environment there need to be sacrifices made.

Nice try

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

The graphic the GPU is handling have no impact on the netcode or the bandwidth used.

 

+1 - local rendering is done locally on the client.

 

Nice try

 

[Tuesday]

"You can't polish a turd"

 

Exact same situation as WWIIOL: the die-hards who still play and the other guys who are giving into the nostalgia-trip are trying to push something that just isn't "it" anymore.  What's great is how both think Steam will save them at $15/mo   

 

Nostalgia wears off fast when people remember why they left it in the first place.

[BeastyBaiter]

Nostalgia wears off fast when people remember why they left it in the first place.

 

Exactly, it's why I won't touch CloD or the original IL2. I loved IL2 back in the early 2000's, but there is a reason I left.

[bugsix]

Game is green lit now

[Brano]

Good,your mission is accomplished. You got one potential customer here. But I'm afraid only untill he realises that yearly subscription will cost him more then his 90$ computer :D

[Feathered_IV]

Just saw this on their forum..... this is what AH might be in the future

 

 

 

Are those little 2d shapes in the background meant to be army men?

[bugsix]

Are those little 2d shapes in the background meant to be army men?

 

 

Yes, AI ground infantry fighting vs each other and players would strafe them

[bugsix]

I'm not sure players here know but Aces High uses VR and supports Oculus and Vive

Edited June 8, 2017 by bugsix

[Feathered_IV]

Yes, AI ground infantry fighting vs each other and players would strafe them

 

Its like something from a first generation Gameboy.  I prefer gameplay over graphics any day of the week, but that is groundbreakingly bad.

[bugsix]

Its like something from a first generation Gameboy.  I prefer gameplay over graphics any day of the week, but that is groundbreakingly bad.

 

I don't think it's official screenshot though.

[AndyJWest]

I don't think it's official screenshot though.

 

So why did you post it then?

[Jaws2002]

I have il2-1946,  cliffs of dover , WOFF,  WT, Rise of flight  (bos not yet but i plan to get it) and compared to them AH shines in ACM and energy managment, sense of speed is unparalleled.When planes goes head on past each other at 300 mph they realy ZOOM and you can feel they go so fast.

 

In il2 1946 planes like 190 p47 p38 and p51 are bricks, they bleed energy and you end up fighting the dogfight which they cannot fight with more oriented dogfight fighters like spit, yak, or 109.

 

In Aces high however the energy retention is beautiful, it's like in real life, you can realy fly and fight in 190 p47 51, high speed  fights in AH are a thing, the author of the game, 'Hitech' flew the real life p51 and you can see it in game's FM.

 

 

Here you can see just how good the FM is, and if you know what you are doing you can win in any plane. A heavy late model 109 (probably a g10 or k4) beats a spit 16.

 

 

 

I'd have to say AH has the most realistic flight model out all those game (however i can't compare it to BOS yet), because combat maneuvers and energy is so well replicated.

 

 

 

Edited June 8, 2017 by Jaws2002

[ACG_Invictus]

I have il2-1946,  cliffs of dover , WOFF,  WT, Rise of flight  (bos not yet but i plan to get it) and compared to them AH shines in ACM and energy managment, sense of speed is unparalleled.When planes goes head on past each other at 300 mph they realy ZOOM and you can feel they go so fast.

 

In il2 1946 planes like 190 p47 p38 and p51 are bricks, they bleed energy and you end up fighting the dogfight which they cannot fight with more oriented dogfight fighters like spit, yak, or 109.

 

In Aces high however the energy retention is beautiful, it's like in real life, you can realy fly and fight in 190 p47 51, high speed  fights in AH are a thing, the author of the game, 'Hitech' flew the real life p51 and you can see it in game's FM.

 

 

Here you can see just how good the FM is, and if you know what you are doing you can win in any plane. A heavy late model 109 (probably a g10 or k4) beats a spit 16.

 

 

 

I'd have to say AH has the most realistic flight model out all those game (however i can't compare it to BOS yet), because combat maneuvers and energy is so well replicated.

 

I've played them all as well, BugSix.  I played Aces High for over 10 years.  I've even played the new one several times.  I resubscribe, play for about a week, yawn and leave.

 

The game was great for it's time, but that time is past.  It's far overshadowed by BoS or even Clod.  It's only major feature over these is the MMO aspect, and since you rarely get more than 200 people on these days what difference does that make?  The community is largely close minded about other sims and has more than its fair share of toxic individuals. 

 

Sorry mate.

[bugsix]

Aces High flight model creates torque maneuvers, something which you can't do in other flight sims.Other sims just simulate controlled flying. Aces High creates flight with simulated aircraft in a simulated environment.  That's why the post stall gyrations in Aces High match what you see with real aircraft in airshows, although with obvious differences from the different power/weight.

 

here is an example:

 

 

 

 

 

Torque maneuver as seen from your own plane

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 10, 2017 by bugsix

[Rjel]

Ok, after 3 pages of the hardsell by bugsix, how many of you guys are signed up??? Anyone??? Anyone at all??? Bueller???

 

You could hear a pin drop almost. Sorry bugsix. No mass desertions here for Aces High I'm afraid. Heck of an effort on your part I'll admit.

[bugsix]

Ok, after 3 pages of the hardsell by bugsix, how many of you guys are signed up??? Anyone??? Anyone at all??? Bueller???

 

You could hear a pin drop almost. Sorry bugsix. No mass desertions here for Aces High I'm afraid. Heck of an effort on your part I'll admit.

 

Too bad you don't want to fly a game with the best flight model available from any ww2 flight game.

[AndyJWest]

Go plug your arcade rubbish somewhere else.

[bugsix]

Go plug your arcade rubbish somewhere else.

 

if you think real life is arcade, because AH is the closest game you will have that planes behave like in real life, the author of the game flew the real p51, he knows how it's like to fly a plane, and you don't

Edited June 10, 2017 by bugsix

[Danziger]

I've checked all the videos I can find and meh... I'll stick with IL*2 and DCS.

 

If I want to get an old nostalgic game from steam I'll get 1942 PAW.

Edited June 10, 2017 by BorysVorobyov

[Lusekofte]

 

 

Go plug your arcade rubbish somewhere else.

 

You Sir , should piss off with your rude inappropriate answers. Who the heck are you to talk on behalf of a entire community 

[bugsix]

Someone try those moves in other flight sims...... this is what set aparts AH from other flight games.

 

 

 

Edited June 10, 2017 by bugsix

[AndyJWest]

You Sir , should piss off with your rude inappropriate answers. Who the heck are you to talk on behalf of a entire community 

 

Maybe you should do the same, since at no point did I claim to be speaking for anyone else. If bugsix had shown the slightest inclination to back up his claims regarding the Aces High flight model with anything approaching verifiable evidence, or even evidence that flight simmers other than himself shared his opinion, I would have been interested in seeing it, instead we have seen him do nothing but post random videos that show nothing of consequence, along with the same repetitive 'because I say so' claims. If other people really think this is a worthwhile contribution to a discussion on flight modelling, I must say it isn't the way such discussions are normally conducted on this forum. 

[bugsix]

If you would go and see for yourself, and if you have any knowledge of flight, you would instantly see why AH has the best flight model

[AndyJWest]

Not necessary after watching that ridiculous Spitfire video. 

[bugsix]

Not necessary after watching that ridiculous Spitfire video. 

no comment

[Blooddawn1942]

This is getting far beyond every imaginable ridiculousness...

Actually this guy had achieved the absolute opposite of what he intended. I voted NO a week ago. I never thought that the day could come that I don't support a flightsim... And reading the same Bullshit over there in the WoFF section of the SimHQ Forum leaves me speechless

[Gambit21]

no comment

I think we all will support you in that policy going forward.

[Rjel]

I think we all will support you in that policy going forward.

Gaffaw!!!!

 

One the other hand, because this community is so good about offering free copies of IL2 BoX, I'd like to offer one of Aces High III. I'd like to, but in all seriousness, I just can't.

[Jaws2002]

if you think real life is arcade, because AH is the closest game you will have that planes behave like in real life, the author of the game flew the real p51, he knows how it's like to fly a plane, and you don't

Dude, you are delusional. 

 

I played AH seventeen years ago and back then it was good. It had ok flight model and the mass multiplayer aspect was awesome. 

Then came Il-2 Sturmovik and My view of AH dropped five floors. Comparing AH flight model with ANY flight sim younger than seven eight years, is  a no contest. ALL OF THEM ARE BETTER.  CLOD, DCS, BOS, ROF are heads shoulder and feet above aces high in all aspects, Including online play, since AH now rarely gets over 200 players. 

Heck I'd go as far as say that even war thunder is better in all aspects. At least War thunder looks really good and the tanks aspect of it is great. 

 

You were shilling this prehistoric piece of software here now for a month and you just don't get it. We are not interested. Going back to aces high, from this modern flight sims is like going to Atari. 

 

The whole thing is like 1.5 gigs....Soon enough we'll have skins bigger than that. 

Edited June 11, 2017 by Jaws2002

[bugsix]

You played it 17 years ago...... but 5 months ago was released aces high 3, which is different under the hood.

 

I also played it 17 years ago..... and back then il2 was way better, but now  Aces High is the best,  and it will be only better because the game is constantly upgraded...... there are 19 updates only in this year, while there aer no new ww2 flight sims on the horizon.

 

Aces high has a chance yet to be a new king,  gameplay is there, graphics are being upgraded.

 

Graphics are not everything that make a game.

Edited June 11, 2017 by bugsix

[Feathered_IV]

Maybe you could buy this game?  I think you will be surprised.