TFS Update 05/26/2017: Patch 4.5 details

[Talisman]

Dear TFS Developers,

 

Regarding the following fix (copied and pasted from above):

 

-Spitfire I/IA/IIA cockpit fix for radiator lever. 

 

Will the red triangle on the label on top of the map box realistically mark the minimum drag position for the radiator flap in such a way that we can use it accurately in the cockpit?

 

Also, are you able to inform us PC pilots what the minimum drag position is in percentage terms, so that we are able to accurately set the minimum drag position?

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Happy landings,

 

56RAF_Talisman

[Sokol1]

Curious question.

 

In the picture bellow - restored Mk.I - the radiator lever seems too far from this placard to allow the this precise  "%" indication that virpilots want.

 

 

Add to this that in CloD Spitfire cockpit is a mix* of various Mk and not specific for any, the the radiator lever - in all models, seems move from ~13:00 to ~15:00:

 

 

Different from what this picture with this placard (but without red triangle) suggest - from ~10:00 to 13:00.

 

 

Or in this manual picture:

 

 

Or there ~4:30 (Spit on video is Mk.I).

 

https://youtu.be/5__b34cEORE?t=270

 

 

 

* This mix was pointed by BOBC (1) before CloD release - at time he was acuse to be "rivet counter" and the matter ignored.

 

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3003475/all/Spitfire_modelled_is_currently

 

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3190122/re-spitfire-modelled-is-currently-a-mkv-not-mk1-as-required#Post3190122

 

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=14619

 

(1) This guy seems this kind of "historian buffs" like the ones that hang in keypublishing forum.

 

"I just know the Spit Mk1 thoroughly after 10 years of dedicated research. I have studied five surviving Mk1 inst panels, and footage of a Mk1 being serviced"

Edited October 20, 2017 by Sokol1

[19//Moach]

Dear TFS Developers,

 

Regarding the following fix (copied and pasted from above):

 

-Spitfire I/IA/IIA cockpit fix for radiator lever. 

 

Will the red triangle on the label on top of the map box realistically mark the minimum drag position for the radiator flap in such a way that we can use it accurately in the cockpit?

 

Also, are you able to inform us PC pilots what the minimum drag position is in percentage terms, so that we are able to accurately set the minimum drag position?

 

Thank you in anticipation.

 

Happy landings,

 

56RAF_Talisman

 

 

I had that same question once. I worked it out, looking up detailed photos of a cockpit replica being built and it's components, I found the actual ratchet device which locks the radiator lever in place. 

 

It works exactly as depicted in the BoX spitfire.  Having six possible positions where it can be set.   The stop percentages are:

 

closed: 0 - 20 - 40 - 60 - 80 - 100 :open

 

 

the 40% position is the "neutral" which would be indicated by a red arrow on the top of the map box. 

 

 

This behavior can be approximated in CloD, using a standard full-cycle potentiometer (such as Saitek rotaries) and a convenient geometric coincidence.

 

A standard pot rotates 5/6 of a full revolution.  One can thus place markings crossing the knob of such a pot at 30° intervals, forming a sliced hexagon pattern. (like a radiation symbol)  Then you can get historically correct positions by matching these markings against a fixed one. 

 

I have done this on one of the rotaries of my X55PRO see:

 

 

 

the etched marks on the black knob line up with the silver one at realistic positions for the spitfire radiator.   The red cue faces directly towards it at fully open, (as shown)  neutral  is set when that same mark faces away in the opposite direction.

 

Rather counter-intuitively, a half turn takes you from 100 to 40% of the potentiometer's range, not half. That's because the knob rotates only 5/6ths of a full turn.

 

 

A very convenient thing indeed, as a pot which rotates more or less than this amount would not match a spitfire radiator lever in such an elegant way.  

Edited November 13, 2017 by 19//Moach

[Talisman]

Thanks for posting Moach.  It would be nice to get a response from TFS on my question.

 

I like to fly on a clean screen, using the in-cockpit view without the on-screen visual aid indicators showing aircraft control settings.  It would be good to be able to set the radiator flaps to minimum drag position using the red triangle, if it is to be a true indicator of minimum drag position.

 

I presume the Spitfire testers for TFS will need to know the minimum drag position in order to test the flight model.

 

Happy landings,

 

56RAF_Talisman

[padrino12pacolin]

cliff of dover patch 4.5 not very good it does not recognize the joystick ,problems with running programs not compatible with visual elements in  windows they need to fix this otherwise we're not buying patch 5.0.

cliff of dover patch 4.5 not very good it does not recognize the joystick ,problems with running programs not compatible with visual elements in  windows they need to fix this otherwise we're not buying patch 5.0.