ZachariasX Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Prepar3D has gone 64 bits as well with the current release of v.4. (Maintaining comatibility with many addons, ORBX give free upgrades to v.4 ) I'm glad Threadripper is out. Will be good having all those cores as well as 4 memory channels fpr Prepar3D. Let's see when the chip hits the market.
chiliwili69 Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 Many thanks Gambit for your detailed post. I had forgotten AMD CPUs until now. My interest is only VR and I am thinking to upgrade my CPU. In the below post, Balapan created a common tests flight to compare CPU/GPU in VR and monitor: https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/29322-measuring-rig-performance-common-baseline/ No Ryzen tests in the table, but it would be nice to compare latest i-7 with pascal GPUs with Ryzen with pascal GPUs in VR. (or monitor if able to run higher than 60Hz)
BeastyBaiter Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 The 1600X is a great choice if you're on a tighter budget and is definitely a big step up from your current one. But as sims use a ton of peripherals, why not go for a 370 mainboard instead of your 350? One tends to use every plug avialable and USB hubs are an invitation for trouble often enough. It has enough for my setup. I have 7 permanently plugged in USB's (4 controllers, keyboard, mouse and headset) but I plug the wireless mouse and headset into the front for obvious reasons. So I'm good with only 5 in the back. The case has 4 more up front and I have an auxiliary front panel USB hub I can use, though I don't expect to need it. Zacharias is right, consider getting X370 rather than B350. Why ? You plan to overclock to 4.0 Ghz, those B350 motherboards will let you do that but they dont have all that much power phases and what is more they do not have sufficiently built heatsinks, there is plenty of materials all over the net where people have shown how high temperatures can power phases reach on motherboards. I looked into a bunch of budget oriented X370 boards but they either had terrible RAM support and/or really questionable power phases (no heatsinks). Hard to say if I made the right choice, very much a quality vs quantity thing. I did check reviews on the B350 Tomahawk, it seems to get good marks for overclocking. My case also has a ton of cooling thanks to 2 front panel fans, 1 top, 2 rear, 1 side, bottom mount PSU and room for a few more fans if I want them. The CPU area in particular has 3 fans in the immediate vicinity. Regardless, the system has been ordered. I expect it to show up sometime this week.
ZachariasX Posted June 4, 2017 Posted June 4, 2017 It has enough for my setup. I have 7 permanently plugged in USB's (4 controllers, keyboard, mouse and headset) but I plug the wireless mouse and headset into the front for obvious reasons. So I'm good with only 5 in the back. The case has 4 more up front and I have an auxiliary front panel USB hub I can use, though I don't expect to need it. I looked into a bunch of budget oriented X370 boards but they either had terrible RAM support and/or really questionable power phases (no heatsinks). Hard to say if I made the right choice, very much a quality vs quantity thing. I did check reviews on the B350 Tomahawk, it seems to get good marks for overclocking. My case also has a ton of cooling thanks to 2 front panel fans, 1 top, 2 rear, 1 side, bottom mount PSU and room for a few more fans if I want them. The CPU area in particular has 3 fans in the immediate vicinity. Regardless, the system has been ordered. I expect it to show up sometime this week. Will be interesting how it will work out. I guess for better DRAM support we have to wait some BIOS iterations. For instance the Gigabyte AORUS GA-AX370 Gaming K7 looks good if it wasn't for the DRAM support...
BeastyBaiter Posted June 9, 2017 Posted June 9, 2017 (edited) New system up and running, specs at bottom. I don't have much reinstalled on it yet, but I have gotten the updates done, played a little DCS 1.5, Rome II, Doom and done a few benchmark tests. Doom always ran great and so it still does. Couldn't tell you if it got faster or not, was already way over my monitor's refresh rate. Rome II is odd in that it went from around 55-60 fps to 25-35 fps in the campaign map but the battle fps is unchanged as far as I can tell. I think the settings are the same, no idea what's going on there. DCS 1.5 saw a major improvement, which I wasn't actually expecting given that it's single threaded. Flying low in the area north of Batumi, my old I5-4690 (non-k) bottlenecked at 30-45 fps with 10km trees and medium visibility range. Using identical settings (not just those two), I tend to bottom out in the 50's but normally stay at 60-80 fps. It is substantially smoother and if I had to guess, I'd say the average fps is around 30 fps higher in that area (used to absolutely crush that I5). I am still downloading BoS, so can't test it yet. Overall the system is good but a little finicky. I picked the Mobo and RAM kit since they *should* work at 3200MHz out of the box, that didn't happen. With MSI's 1.5 drivers (latest non-beta), the ram won't go higher than 2667 even with loose timings and more voltage. On the bright side, a 4.0GHz CPU overclock seems to be perfectly stable and completely trivial to get (type in 4000, press apply). I'm using Ryzen Master for it currently but have set it up in Bios too (Ryzen Master is less buggy). Benchmark results are damned good. The more interesting Passmark CPU results are as follows: Overall: 14323 Integer: 35598 Floating Point: 13090 Single Thread: 2137 Percentile: 98% That's with sub-optimal ram speed, which allegedly has a far bigger impact on Ryzen than the current Intel chips. Other bits aren't very interesting, I reused the GPU, PSU, Case and so on. The new nvme SSD didn't make a whole lot of difference either. It is faster of course, but it isn't like the change from a mechanical HDD to a SATA3 SSD. It's also worth noting the motherboard takes unusually long to post. This seems to be a common problem with Ryzen and should get sorted out with bios updates from what I've read. It isn't awful, just negates the nvme's boot advantage over a HDD. The BIOS in general with the B350 Tomahawk is all kinds of buggy, hence I've stopped messing with that for now. Lastly, thermals are excellent, as expected. Under full load the fan I bought keeps the 1600x under 50C at all times and is dead silent while doing so. Not bad for $25. New system: CPU: R5 1600X (4.0GHz locked, all cores) CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 (https://www.newegg.c...N82E16835856005) Mobo: MSI B350 Tomahawk (https://www.newegg.c...N82E16813144018) RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB PC3200 (https://www.newegg.c...N82E16820232476) Main Drive: Samsung 960 EVO 500GB NVME (https://www.newegg.c...N82E16820147594) OS: Win 10 Home GPU: Reusing MSI RX480 8GB Gaming X PSU: Reusing Corsair RM750X Other: Arctic Silver thermal paste Old system: CPU: I5-4690 (3.5-3.9GHz) RAM: DDR3 PC2400 Mobo: Biostar Z87X Main drive: Crucial 256GB SSD (SATA 3) OS: Win 10 GPU: RX480 obviously Edited for typo's Edited June 10, 2017 by BeastyBaiter
BeastyBaiter Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 BoS runs flawlessly @ max detail as expected. Still GPU bound so didn't really do much of anything except slightly lower the load times.
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