VKB Modern Combat Grip

[dburne]

If it helps at all, I have a Monstertech with the center mount (link below), and they only recently came out with a Gunfighter adapter.  Before this, I was using their Warthog mounting plate with the Gunfighter, and it worked fine.  Only the front two screw holes on the Gunfighter lined up with the mounting plate, but it was enough to keep it stable for flying.  In fact, I wouldn't have even gotten a new adapter plate, except for the fact that the newer one is longer, and gives more room for forward stick throw.  Not an issue for you with the WSP.

 

 

I have the Center Mount with Warthog plate on order, and also recently ordered the Gunfighter plate for it as well.

 

I am really looking forward to getting these to give it a try. The Gunfighter Plate is on the way to me, but the center mount setup with the Warthog plate I am still waiting for it to ship - have had it on order about 4 weeks. The Gunfighter Plate for it shipped in like 2 days.

 

Also have the extension kit for my Gunfighter on the way to me as well, to turn it into the Pro. Now just need that darn MCG grip and I will be all set!

[Brizzly]

I have the Center Mount with Warthog plate on order, and also recently ordered the Gunfighter plate for it as well.

 

I am really looking forward to getting these to give it a try. The Gunfighter Plate is on the way to me, but the center mount setup with the Warthog plate I am still waiting for it to ship - have had it on order about 4 weeks. The Gunfighter Plate for it shipped in like 2 days.

 

Also have the extension kit for my Gunfighter on the way to me as well, to turn it into the Pro. Now just need that darn MCG grip and I will be all set!

 

Yeah, it took awhile for my sim chair to ship from them too.  I think they manufacture from orders, so I wouldn't worry too much.  Their stuff is top notch, and worth the wait!

[Dutchvdm]

The plan of "WW II throttle" was postponed in favor of another"jet/spaceship throttle"...   

 

Hi Sokol,

 

Does this mean that this throttle wil be delayed?

 

https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-throttle-quadrant

 

That's to bad...

 

Grt M

[Sokol1]

Yes, this model - if it continues in the plans - has been moved to the end of the queue, little chance to "see the light" this year.

[dburne]

Yes, this model - if it continues in the plans - has been moved to the end of the queue, little chance to "see the light" this year.

 

That is too bad...

 

The community I think is definitely ready for another good throttle offering. 

[dburne]

An update and some pics UIV of VKB posted recently of MCG Pro grip.

 

http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=26&p=27372&sid=74a9a75f4271f9ecac30e174569ced62#p27372

Edited July 15, 2017 by dburne

[Ribbon]

I'll go for basic MCG but for left hand usage, it will be out soon after right hand design release, i guess in september.

Until than i modded kg12 grip and relocated collie hat to the right side;

[Jade_Monkey]

An update and some pics UIV of VKB posted recently of MCG Pro grip.

 

http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=26&p=27372&sid=74a9a75f4271f9ecac30e174569ced62#p27372

 

Nice!

[Sokol1]

http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=26&p=27763#p27763

[AeroGator]

Thought I should post it here so you guys don't have to follow external links.

Here goes:

 

MCG - prints; comments/suggestions anyone?

 

This is just a routine check-up and announcement that should cheer you up while waiting for the MCG release. At least, so we hope.

We found the way to have a talk with the original grip engineers about the text prints on grips supplied with export versions of Su and MiG planes.

Here are the pictures of exactly the prints they have on originals. What you see will with high probability go in production, however if there is anything you guys feel like sticking out or not really belonging, this is the time to raise questions or suggest alterations.

We're all ears.

[Jade_Monkey]

The hand rest is adjustable right? Unless im looking at it wrong.

 

This looks like a fantastic stick. If only more legit throttles were available to complement it.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Thought I should post it here so you guys don't have to follow external links.

Here goes:

 

MCG - prints; comments/suggestions anyone?

 

This is just a routine check-up and announcement that should cheer you up while waiting for the MCG release. At least, so we hope.

We found the way to have a talk with the original grip engineers about the text prints on grips supplied with export versions of Su and MiG planes.

Here are the pictures of exactly the prints they have on originals. What you see will with high probability go in production, however if there is anything you guys feel like sticking out or not really belonging, this is the time to raise questions or suggest alterations.

We're all ears.

 

None of them really belong.

 

Forgo the labels and let us decide what the buttons/levels are for.

 

Awesome grip though!

Edited August 23, 2017 by Space_Ghost

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

I don't mind the markings - but im not going to see them in VR anyway.

[AeroGator]

The hand rest is adjustable right? If only more legit throttles were available to complement it.

YES of course! The very idea of not having it adjustable never visited us

Thanks for the good words. Throttle is on the way. There are more products in different stages of readiness on the stove in our kitchen but they need time to get well done. However, it's not going to be too long.

[Sokol1]

The hand rest is adjustable right? Unless im looking at it wrong.

 

For "Greek and Trojans" hands:

 

 

 

BTW -This labels on grip has only "decorative" value, as everyone will use buttons accord their preferences (like open cockpit, release landing gear...   ), so make then in Cyrillic's (and in Chinese Urdu for Russian market).      

Edited August 24, 2017 by Sokol1

[SYN_Vorlander]

Salute all,

 

Will there be any shorter extensions than the 20cm currently. I would prefer 7.5 or 10cm extensions at this time?

 

Thx

[Jade_Monkey]

YES of course! The very idea of not having it adjustable never visited us

Thanks for the good words. Throttle is on the way. There are more products in different stages of readiness on the stove in our kitchen but they need time to get well done. However, it's not going to be too long.

Thanks for the answers.

 

Regarding the labels, i would say get rid of them. They will not match the users inputs most of the time and they add more clutter.

 

Additionally it will save you some time in manufacturing.

[AeroGator]

UIV landed in Hong Kong and right off the plane said his word

 

Hi, so here it is:

There will be an option at checkout!

You will be able to buy the grip with or without prints to your taste.

Sorry though, no Cyrillics - for the reason I explained earlier.

 

Keep keeping fingers cross for UIV; he landed OK but still needs to ferry to the mainland, and the waters are slightly choppy these days (see video). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl_2rdSlEmI

[AeroGator]

Ain't She Sweet

 

OK people

 

It's a dreams-come-true day

Nope, they're not ready to be shipped out yet, but look at how more precise and accurate the seams became (well well OK, these are rendered pics... but we did improve the molds, really). And hey, some liked them Cyr? Here you go.

 

More is coming: I heard some were not happy about base being a 'compulsory' buy?

Give me some attention please (ahem): once MCG hits the market, base will be optional.

In simple words, you want a grip, no base - here is a grip, no base. You want a base, no grip - here is a base, no grip. You want two bases, one grip - here you go.

 

Stay tuned!

Edited August 25, 2017 by AeroGator

[Jade_Monkey]

Very very nice!

 

Just curious, my X55 thumb button is just a single button. Whats a good use case for the MCG dual (?) thumb button? Is it typically for trim?

[dburne]

Looking great, really looking forward to eventually getting this so I can get my new Gunfighter Pro set up and running. I needs me buttons.

[Sokol1]

Just curious, my X55 thumb button is just a single button. Whats a good use case for the MCG dual (?) thumb button? Is it typically for trim?

 

If you mean the button in middle left side of grip is practical for helicopter trim, e.g. Ka-50, but is single button only in MCG, in MCG PRO this button is a 4 way + click HAT, ideal for "jet's countermeasures.

 

In WW II planes I like use similar thumb button (CH Combatstick) for fire cannons only.

[Jade_Monkey]

Yes i have it as cannon,but with MCG i would be using the dual stage trigger. The pics seems to me like a two way button instead of 4 or 1, ill look more carefully.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

Hopefully the release is not too far off. Just had my trigger switch fail on my MSFFB2 for the second time in its 15 year life so its almost time to put this thing to rest.

[Sokol1]

Yes i have it as cannon,but with MCG i would be using the dual stage trigger. The pics seems to me like a two way button instead of 4 or 1, ill look more carefully.

 

I don't find good idea use cannon + MG's in same button (trigger 2nd stage) because due the different ballistic trajectories for cannon and MG, outside of convergence point this result in waste ammo.

 

Anyway MCG has another trigger that can be used for cannon only.

 

The format of side button in MCG PRO suggest two way, but is 4 +1 - same of the button under HAT, and for the one in right side, under index.  Alias showed in the picture in previous page: http://i.imgur.com/MCQ62y3.jpg

Edited August 25, 2017 by Sokol1

[Jade_Monkey]

Im not clear on the triggers. So there is a dual stage trigger AND a metal trigger?

 

I always assumed the metal one just pushed the other one but now i think I understand.

[Sokol1]

The foldable trigger, visible in picture bellow in safety (horizontal) position - in real grip used for release missile, rockets, bombs... -  is in metal, as well the "brake" lever.

 

The "trigger" with 2 positions in conventional position is in plastic - in real grip this "trigger" is for (momentarily, I think)  AP disengage and not fire weapons.

 

 

In real grip the cannon "trigger" is this button:

 

Edited August 26, 2017 by Sokol1

[AeroGator]

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Here are the WH and MCG side by side for size comparison.

Please note: both grips are not meant to be shown to public as samples. They are only shown here for size comparison purpose and do not represent these joysticks as commodity. The WH one is pretty old and beaten, obviously taken some sadistic abuse; the MCG is a pre-pre-pre-serial prototype. What you buy is not going to look this way.

 

 

However, it is worth noticing that the WH's thumb hat is missing. This grip survived a fall down from the desk; OK, the hull still looks OK but what about the hat? Full metal hull is not a panacea.

[Sokol1]

However, it is worth noticing that the WH's thumb hat is missing. This grip survived a fall down from the desk; OK, the hull still looks OK but what about the hat? Full metal hull is not a panacea.

 

Well, My CH Combatstick fall from desk several times - until I bolt then in support. No part broken. 

[Sokol1]

The foldable trigger, visible in picture bellow in safety (horizontal) position 

 

 

Curiously, this "foldable trigger" can press four "buttons":

 

 

(For WWII planes) I would use the following mapping:

The (trigger) first position machine gun

The second position cannon (as a result there will be a salvo cannon + machine guns without delay)

(in the) position "fire" - cannon (only)

Thrown the trigger forward to the "safe" position, then the first operation of the SU control unit launches rockets (or bombs)

Thus, it turns out that each type of weapon is separately controlled, plus simultaneous salvo fire without delay.

[LukeFF]

So, the foldable trigger works in 2 different directions? I'm not following exactly how this is supposed to work.

[Sokol1]

This trigger use a axis, so can be programmed in bands, each one "pressing a button".

 

This "cam" in upper part of trigger suggest stop in predefined positions (similar to Cobra M-5 trigger), 3 or 4.

 

 

The "button" in fold up movement looks strange, like use for fire rockets as suggest above, but will be useful in some DCS planes, like Ka-50, Bf 109, Mig-15... wheres is need press a key for move the in game trigger for fire/safety position, then just fold/unfold the trigger in MCG do this command. 

Edited August 28, 2017 by Sokol1