Bought reviews?

[Asgar]

I think Eagle Dynamcs is scared shitless since the release of VR for IL-2 and all the postive feedback on the forums and places like the hoggit sub-reddit. All of a sudden there is a bunch of negative reviews about IL-2 on steam, all in Russian and most of them mention people should get DCS. Is Eagle Dynamics really that desperate just before the release of their stupid WW2 map?

I think if you're competitors are that scared your doing everything right. Good job 1C and 777!

Edited April 25, 2017 by 6./ZG26_Asgar

[9./JG27DavidRed]

lol, i dont have VR yet, but the couple of flight buddies who have it all report the same....that this implementation here is much better then what dcs has to offer....

if what you are saying is really true, than its really an embarrassing move by them, although it wouldnt surprise me too much...having seen the moderator over there bashing this product here with an elitist snobbish condescending tone everytime there's a possibilty, and deleting threads whenever BOS is mentioned in a good way....

Edited April 25, 2017 by 9./JG27DavidRed

[BlitzPig_EL]

Fan boys will be fan boys.   

 

By that I mean it's entirely possible that those posts were just from some of the rabid fans of that title.

 

Flight sims do tend to be quite polarizing, if you hadn't noticed.

 

[Freycinet]

 

Flight sims do tend to be quite polarizing, if you hadn't noticed.

 

 

You are deeply wrong and I totally resent you for saying this!

 

 

 

 

 

[BlitzPig_EL]

Hee hee.

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

I'd say it's easily possible that this sort of thing is happening via some rabid fan.

 

I had a pretty nasty post on my IL: BoM review about the whole thing being crap and how I was paid off by the guys here (LOL as if). No substance to their criticism. Just pure angst.

 

I've been flying DCS a lot more recently and it's really good and IL-2 is also really good. I don't get the us vs them on this. Both great products... sometimes for different reasons and with different strengths.

 

Probably the best counter move is for fans to get out there and post their reviews to Steam, Reddit, Metacritic and wherever else with their honest opinions. Don't sugar coat it but at the same time be fair with what is great.

Edited April 25, 2017 by ShamrockOneFive

[Mac_Messer]

Well at least both titles are still blue in numbers.

 

I`ve read most of the red reviews and most of them have been written by some idiots anyway.

 

It`s similar to what games like Witcher 3 experienced. Lots of red two sentence BS.

[Finkeren]

I don't think ED would pay people to write sh*t about this sim, and they wouldn't need to. There are always plenty of people on both sides willing to do something like this and completely justify it to themselves.

 

If they suddenly see the sim that they have for some reason chosen to hate and feel that it's getting a lot of "unfair" praise, then it might trigger a small group pull this kind of trick.

 

As much as I do like BoX (much more so than DCS) I just can't see myself ever doing something like this. I genuinely want DCS to be good and, if ever possible, offer me an alternative to BoX that I might actually enjoy. I don't want one sim to succeed, I want them all to thrive.

[=VARP=Cygann]

Any monopoly in business is good at start for pilling up money, but if it lasts too long, eventually leads to degradation and frequently whole business tear down. 

 

Without healthy competition, there is not excellence because people are inherently lazy by nature, it's that simple.

[OrLoK]

It's typical rabid fan/hater behaviour.

 

ED have their core audience and although theres overlap in the communities I dont think ED or the IL2 devs consider each other direct competition in the same area of simming.

 

You do get groups of disgruntled ex fans or fans of other games, or as i call them "loonies",  who take events far to seriously and actively try to disrupt reviews sales etc etc.

 

If you discover any obvious trolling/false reviews etc report it to the appropriate mods/site owners.

Edited April 25, 2017 by OrLoK

[CanadaOne]

How much do negative reviews pay? I need a new CPU.

[Urra]

How much do negative reviews pay? I need a new CPU.

Ya, I need to save up for the 4k VR set coming out next year for use in IL2. This works both ways right? Let me practice my typing skills.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

How much do negative reviews pay? I need a new CPU.

 

I can think of at least one member of these forums who could tell you what positive reviews pay. 

[CanadaOne]

I can think of at least one member of these forums who could tell you what positive reviews pay. 

 

Well, I wrote one yesterday at another site. Let's see some cash!

[Wolf8312]

Just took off from Nevada in an M2000C and flying low through downtown skyscrapers flew up into the mountains and attacked a convoy! Incredible, especially with a jetseat so I dont think the DCS devs really have too much to worry about! Both are amazing and hopefully they will both thrive.

[Danziger]

I like DCS for what it is. A what if sandbox with a wide variety of things to fly or drive. It's a realistic simulation of a fantasy storyline.

 

However, I have a great dislike of their forum moderators being allowed to troll these forums and ban Il-2 users from their forum.

[Scojo]

I think it's just fans. The only fraud that companies usually have incentive to partake in are ones that help them lie to investors.

 

I think the hate that we see in small communities such as flight sims are due to the fact that splitting up the player base at any point in time results in lower numbers in the MP part of the sims, and people always want more enemies to shoot down.

 

But there are also some people who just really love to feel superior and in an already smaller community, their voice relatively louder so they yell and yell.

 

I've also learned that people love to be angry for some reason. I know quite a few people on and off the internet who will start trouble over anything at all just to argue and be mean to others. Maybe it's the attention it brings

Nah, it's probably just that it deludes them into thinking and feeling they're superior to others

[Thad]

Well, I wrote one yesterday at another site. Let's see some cash!

It's in the e-mail.

[DB605]

I think Eagle Dynamcs is scared shitless since the release of VR for IL-2 and all the postive feedback on the forums and places like the hoggit sub-reddit. All of a sudden there is a bunch of negative reviews about IL-2 on steam, all in Russian and most of them mention people should get DCS. Is Eagle Dynamics really that desperate just before the release of their stupid WW2 map?

 

I think if you're competitors are that scared your doing everything right. Good job 1C and 777!

 

I can't see any reasons why they would be "scared to shitless".

 

Hardcore sims have their own players. If BoX latest patch would have been massive update to FM's or systems modelling/clickpits etc, then there would be some reason to them to be scared.

 

One area where DCS is behind BoX is clouds and weather effects. Those are really awesome and adds a lot of immersion.

 

As for VR implementation,  BoX does runs smoother but besides of that both are pretty much in same level.

[JAGER_Batz]

I think Eagle Dynamcs is scared shitless since the release of VR for IL-2 and all the postive feedback on the forums and places like the hoggit sub-reddit. All of a sudden there is a bunch of negative reviews about IL-2 on steam, all in Russian and most of them mention people should get DCS. Is Eagle Dynamics really that desperate just before the release of their stupid WW2 map?

 

I think if you're competitors are that scared your doing everything right. Good job 1C and 777!

Another fanboy, DCS is a great game If someone commented negatively is because they didn't like the game, simple like that

 

Say "stupid WW2 map" It is a lack of respect for the work of others, If you don't like DCS, keep playing your BOS ...

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Another fanboy, DCS is a great game If someone commented negatively is because they didn't like the game, simple like that

 

Say "stupid WW2 map" It is a lack of respect for the work of others, If you don't like DCS, keep playing your BOS ...

 

Calm your tits there, champ. 

 

Don't go full on [Edited} on us - criticizing the things that DCS doesn't do well is perfectly reasonable, well within the forum rules and I don't know if you follow ED's forums but the talk of BOX is a lot more bashy there than the talk of DCS is here (when Shitspawn allows other products to be discussed, of course...)

 

 

 

These tits!

 

 

 

 

If you don't like what Asgar says nobody is compelling you to issue a response, either.

[9./JG27DavidRed]

[JAGER_Batz]

Calm your tits there, champ. 

 

Don't go full on Shitspawn on us - criticizing the things that DCS doesn't do well is perfectly reasonable, well within the forum rules and I don't know if you follow ED's forums but the talk of BOX is a lot more bashy there than the talk of DCS is here (when Shitspawn allows other products to be discussed, of course...)

 

 

 

These tits!

 

 

 

 

If you don't like what Asgar says nobody is compelling you to issue a response, either.

i'm very calm

[Guest deleted@50488]

Both DCS and IL.2 BoX are the most advanced flight simulation platforms in terms of Combat Flight Simulation, and both have their strong & weak points, like any other simulator.

 

I believe, from what I read and what I am told by users of VR equipment that their implementations are both very good, although we should not forget how good it is as well - probably even better / smoother - in Aerofly FS 2, another flight simulator, civil, released last year and really worth the try just for the experience of their flight dynamics, scenery, and VR experience.

 

I don't think it's fair to assume ED / Belsimtek, are in any way behind those reviews - don't think they should be scared by anything because even if more a sandbox than a ww2 / Cold War / Modern air combat sim, DCS is still a great flight simulation platform, just as IL.2 is.

 

I use both, I can't prefer one, they're both, together with AEFS2, my preferred flight simulation games.

Edited April 27, 2017 by jcomm

[BlitzPig_Bill_Kelso]

You are all wrong FYI, CloD owns all.

 

 

Except in areas where BoX owns and areas where DCS own.

[Jason_Williams]

Guys,

 

As interesting as this sounds, I can't have this kind of stuff on the forum. So locked and will be deleted. Who knows what makes people say what they say. We are sick of the negativity about any sim and have been for a long time. 

 

Jason