More planes.

[sinned]

Canada, no one overreacted. Your expectation of "freebie" is just delusional. Period.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Come on folks, we can have a nice polite discussion about new planes, free or not, without calling anyone names.

 

Let's talk about that Hurricane for a second. Great idea for another type that could be included into the series. The Russians received a good number of them and they served in a bunch of different places. Even during the Moscow battle if I remember correctly. We'd have the opportunity to see 12 .303s in action in this sim with a standard Mark IIb but also the field modified Russian versions which had two UB 12.7mm and two ShVAK 20mm in the wings which were fairly popular in some early war online battles I fought in with IL-2 1946.

 

Lots of great ideas out there. We've got more great examples of WWII aircraft to suggest than the dev team has time to build right now. Still hoping to see one or two more Collector Planes that are East Front oriented appear before the team moves on to the Pacific.

[CanadaOne]

Canada, no one overreacted. Your expectation of "freebie" is just delusional. Period.

That you would use such language is proof of overreaction.

 

If, at this stage of the sims' progress and development it is financially unfeasible to offer a free plane, that's fine. No problem.

 

But to overreact as you have, and cite 'delusion" when the topic of free content being offered at one point is brought up, well... have your coffee and perhaps bring your conversational style down a notch. That would be my thought.

Come on folks, we can have a nice polite discussion about new planes, free or not, without calling anyone names.

 

Let's talk about that Hurricane for a second. Great idea for another type that could be included into the series. The Russians received a good number of them and they served in a bunch of different places. Even during the Moscow battle if I remember correctly. We'd have the opportunity to see 12 .303s in action in this sim with a standard Mark IIb but also the field modified Russian versions which had two UB 12.7mm and two ShVAK 20mm in the wings which were fairly popular in some early war online battles I fought in with IL-2 1946.

 

Lots of great ideas out there. We've got more great examples of WWII aircraft to suggest than the dev team has time to build right now. Still hoping to see one or two more Collector Planes that are East Front oriented appear before the team moves on to the Pacific.

A Hurricane would be lovely.

 

I'd pay for that.

[ShamrockOneFive]

A Hurricane would be lovely.

 

I'd pay for that.

 

I would too!

[Scojo]

The whole free plane debate isn't entirely unfounded. It's basically a demo, and doesn't DCS do that?

 

I see no problem in suggesting it.

 

I have no friends who would pay for this game up front, however if there were a free plane I could convince them to play with me some and I'm sure a few of them would actually buy a discounted BoS at the very least.

 

Is my case the norm? Maybe, maybe not. Would it actually increase sales? Maybe, maybe not. That's for the publisher to decide.

[sinned]

So.. answer this. Of the two planes you bot, one must be a JU52... no?

What a joke.

[sinned]

"No free plane? Thats fine no problem" style of conversation at a Flight Sim selling developer's forum is also a conspicous proof of delusional expectation.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

So.. answer this. Of the two planes you bot, one must be a JU52... no?

What a joke.

 

I own every single aircraft in ROF and every single aircraft in BOX.

 

How about you? 

 

Completely non sequitur but keep it up...

[CanadaOne]

So.. answer this. Of the two planes you bot, one must be a JU52... no?What a joke.

No, I bought the LA-5 and the FW-190 A3 after I bought BOM and before I bought BOS.

 

As for the JU52 being "a joke", though it is not my choice of a plane to buy for now, it looks extremely well made.

"No free plane? Thats fine no problem" style of conversation at a Flight Sim selling developer's forum is also a conspicous proof of delusional expectation.

You seem very upset on a personal level and for the life of me I cannot understand why. Edited April 14, 2017 by CanadaOne

[sinned]

 

Thanks for sharing your purchases which do not include JU52. Yes JU52 is a great plane but didnt warrant tou to buy one.

 

You must be the 1/4 that is missing the resounding success of JU52.

[CanadaOne]

Thanks for sharing your purchases which do not include JU52. Yes JU52 is a great plane but didnt warrant tou to buy one.

You must be the 1/4 that is missing the resounding success of JU52.

 

What an odd post.

[ShamrockOneFive]

As the series grows it might make sense to offer things up a bit like Rise of Flight did. A Bf109F-4 and a LaGG-3 Series 29 would offer an entry into the series that provides aircraft that extend both to Moscow (ish) and Kuban (also ish). Enough to get someones appetite and then hopefully get them to buy more.

 

It didn't make as much sense at the beginning given there were only 10 planes but as we approach 30 options it dilutes things a little bit and offers up so much more to play with if you pony up the cash. It'd be a pretty good idea to do that too.

[Scojo]

Thanks for sharing your purchases which do not include JU52. Yes JU52 is a great plane but didnt warrant tou to buy one.

 

You must be the 1/4 that is missing the resounding success of JU52.

Why are you so attached to proving the JU52 was a failure? What relevance does that have to the discussion here?

[CanadaOne]

As the series grows it might make sense to offer things up a bit like Rise of Flight did. A Bf109F-4 and a LaGG-3 Series 29 would offer an entry into the series that provides aircraft that extend both to Moscow (ish) and Kuban (also ish). Enough to get someones appetite and then hopefully get them to buy more.

 

It didn't make as much sense at the beginning given there were only 10 planes but as we approach 30 options it dilutes things a little bit and offers up so much more to play with if you pony up the cash. It'd be a pretty good idea to do that too.

Certainly worth consideration. RoF and DCS both do it. And ORBX, which makes amazing scenery for FSX offers, a fully modded Iceland as a taste test.

 

I might have bought this sim months earlier if there had been a free demo, but it's easy to say that after the fact.

[sinned]

Someone seems to hold some grudges against me and brought up JU52 topic so i returned a favor by proving some live examples. Go up and read how JU52 came about in this very non related topic.

I gift BOK and will continue to do so to memebers that are assets to the success of this genre. How about you?

Joke is not twds you canada but to those who believe flayble JU52 was a great resounding success.

 

Waste of time and resources.

 

Lets get BOK and move to pacific.

[Gambit21]

The whole free plane debate isn't entirely unfounded. It's basically a demo, and doesn't DCS do that?

 

I see no problem in suggesting it.

 

The way I see it, that's a different conversation than the Devs creating an aircraft to give out for free.

Second, I'm guessing that they're not following their RoF free demo sales model for a reason other than whim.

[CanadaOne]

I'm sure the JU52 is fun to fly.

 

...but then we'd need a Crete campaign so we could crash land them in the midst of those magnificent and marvelously pissed of Kiwis.

[sinned]

I own JU52 and yes it is fun to fly.

For many, it doesnt seem to warrant a purchase.

 

I have seen those who says JU52 is an awesome plane but complain why it is not on a sale.

 

My point is simple re: JU52. Put your money mouth is at.

 

 

And dont ask for free planes - this is probably top game that provides the most value for money I put in (including gift and hardwares that dont contribute to 777 sales)

[CanadaOne]

I own JU52 and yes it is fun to fly.

For many, it doesnt seem to warrant a purchase.

I have seen those who says JU52 is an awesome plane but complain why it is not on a sale.

My point is simple re: JU52. Put your money mouth is at.

And dont ask for free planes - this is probably top game that provides the most value for money I put in (including gift and hardwares that dont contribute to 777 sales)

Unless and until it is against the rules to engage in polite conversation discussing the future possibility of a free plane being offered with an update, I will continue to do so.

 

If that causes you distress or anxiety, I suggest you do not read my posts.

[Scojo]

The way I see it, that's a different conversation than the Devs creating an aircraft to give out for free.

Second, I'm guessing that they're not following their RoF free demo sales model for a reason other than whim.

They don't have to make one for the purpose.

 

There's MANY ways to go about it. Timed demo in a current plane. Have one plane completely free. Have a plane free that can't use it's weapons. Have a free fly period to try all of the aircraft. Etc

And dont ask for free planes - this is probably top game that provides the most value for money I put in (including gift and hardwares that dont contribute to 777 sales)

I'm not personally asking for "free planes", just saying that I would like there to be some form of demo available so I can convince my friends and brother to get into the sim.

 

I don't think they should give anything away for free to those of us that are already willing to invest in the game. In fact, I'm surprised they have as many sales as they do. However, someone new to the game can't try it unless they commit to a purchase right now

Also, I'll ask for whatever I d*** well please.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Unless and until it is against the rules to engage in polite conversation discussing the future possibility of a free plane being offered with an update, I will continue to do so.

 

If that causes you distress or anxiety, I suggest you do not read my posts.

 

Spent all my upvotes on you already but +1 to this too.

-snip-

Also, I'll ask for whatever I d*** well please.

 

+1

[sinned]

I politely ask dev for future possibility that this sim is offered for free to the public. Because this is da best sim ever.

[CanadaOne]

I politely ask dev for future possibility that this sim is offered for free to the public. Because this is da best sim ever.

 

Look at that, you're getting the hang of it.

 

Good man.

Also, I'll ask for whatever I d*** well please.

+2

[curiousGamblerr]

I politely ask dev for future possibility that this sim is offered for free to the public. Because this is da best sim ever.

 

Dude, between your Ju 52 hate and this thread, you really suck. 

[sinned]

Dude, between your Ju 52 hate and this thread, you really suck.

 

Make no mistake Gambler,

 

My disdain is not with JU52 but with those who misled dev to develop it as a highly demanded flyable one and with those who ask for free planes.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Make no mistake Gambler,

 

My disdain is not with JU52 but with those who misled dev to develop it as a highly demanded flyable one and with those who ask for free planes.

 

Do you happen to have sales numbers for the Ju52?

[CanadaOne]

Make no mistake Gambler,

My disdain is not with JU52 but with those who misled dev to develop it as a highly demanded flyable one and with those who ask for free planes.

Embrace the horror, baby.

[sinned]

Do you happen to have sales numbers for the Ju52?

Hi Shamrock,

I have received a pm from bearcat who is among those here that I have a lot of respect.

 

I will not comment further re JU52 as it is a great plane to purchase, but i ask everyone no more asking devs for developments of products that risk the success of this game.

[Riderocket]

Hi Shamrock,

I have received a pm from bearcat who is among those here that I have a lot of respect.

 

I will not comment further re JU52 as it is a great plane to purchase, but i ask everyone no more asking devs for developments of products that risk the success of this game.

I would have bought JU52 if I could afford it. But I can't

[Lusekofte]

Yeah, but smoking Luftwaffe bombers in a Hurricane full of .303s is a special kind of fun.

 

The 303 worked well for the Hurrycane , they was mounted close together unlike the Spit and had a punch, but it had very little ammo pr gun. But eventually you could get big cannons for it, witch interest me more

[Feathered_IV]

Didn't the VVS receive some lend-lease Mosquitos?

[Lusekofte]

All this support the developers talk....

1. This game is not anymore one its baby stage, it can stand on its own feet.

2. I do not intend to buy everything there is for that cause only

3. Quality do not come by itself, a desire to make people want something tend to inspire a company to be better

4. Quantity is something that will come along if point 2. interest enough people

 

The development so far have been amazing, I see people flying this sim now , that was openly verbal against it when it started. I think it is fair to the  company that people buy stuff from them because they want to, not because there is a support the developers regime. This simulator have actually become the best WW2 simulator beyond any doubt. It support VR, witch was the only drawback it had, now the next  smaller drawback for some is the eastern front theme. When this goes to pasific that is not an issue any longer. This sim will then have it all. 

[CanadaOne]

Didn't the VVS receive some lend-lease Mosquitos?

 

Amen, brother.

[Habu]

Storch

The idea of flying online, across the lines to check out some troop displacements and back again, just surviving to land again at home to me would be great fun.

In my arm my friend. I have the same idea for the storch.

 

Another plane i would like is the Sparviero, but it will not suit to the maps we have, until we have the med.

[Rolling_Thunder]

All this support the developers talk....

1. This game is not anymore one its baby stage, it can stand on its own feet.

2. I do not intend to buy everything there is for that cause only

3. Quality do not come by itself, a desire to make people want something tend to inspire a company to be better

4. Quantity is something that will come along if point 2. interest enough people

 

The development so far have been amazing, I see people flying this sim now , that was openly verbal against it when it started. I think it is fair to the  company that people buy stuff from them because they want to, not because there is a support the developers regime. This simulator have actually become the best WW2 simulator beyond any doubt. It support VR, witch was the only drawback it had, now the next  smaller drawback for some is the eastern front theme. When this goes to pasific that is not an issue any longer. This sim will then have it all. 

 

Not until it has western Europe and the Med/N Africa after the pacific will it have it all

[Mac_Messer]

They are following the IL-2 1946 release path pretty much. Start with eastern, move to pacific, move back to eastern, then to western, then, 1946. 

 

Except now every plane needs a detailed flight model, even the AI so we don't end up with "cheating AI" posts. That's why they aren't releasing any unflyable planes. 

 

I'm excited for the pacific because carrier landings will be difficult, and maybe this time they'll do it better than last time. Which would be cool.

You mean this time I will be able to find the damn carrier?

[Mac_Messer]

Ju52 3/4 resounding success when free JU52 offerring werent even activated?

 

Hello!? Wake up!

What a clear proof that these guys are in lala land.

 

Free gift JU52 not activated but JU52 is 3/4 success! Yeah sure.

++ hey canada, those two extra planes u bot, one must be a JU52 right? Cuz JU52 is a "resounding success"!!

That is pretty grim. I`d activate a gift plane. Looks like some people got some and turned out to be _______es.

[Mac_Messer]

They don't have to make one for the purpose.

 

There's MANY ways to go about it. Timed demo in a current plane. Have one plane completely free. Have a plane free that can't use it's weapons. Have a free fly period to try all of the aircraft. Etc

I'm not personally asking for "free planes", just saying that I would like there to be some form of demo available so I can convince my friends and brother to get into the sim.

 

I don't think they should give anything away for free to those of us that are already willing to invest in the game. In fact, I'm surprised they have as many sales as they do. However, someone new to the game can't try it unless they commit to a purchase right now

Also, I'll ask for whatever I d*** well please.

Yeah, a Free Weekend plane. I`d hit that.

[neofightr2]

I wasn't a fan of the eastern front before this sim, I only got it back in early access because I was playing rise of flight, and the thought of RoF WW2 was enough for me to shell out my wallet.

 

I really hope they do come back to eastern front (and DX11 and VR for RoF) in the future.

 

But I'm also looking forward to the Pacific! I'll probably fly the A6M and SBD Dauntless.. alot

I was in the same boat. I did pick up their little gem called cliffs of dover, sure it's old but the details are still there. It's what got me hooked on the IL2 series to begin with. That and RoF. Not a big fan of the eastern front aircraft since I am a Navy man but the detail is so engrossing with these games you can't help but want to play them to death. A pacific game from these guys is a dream come true for me so I can't wait but I sure wish the devs had more resources to keep pumping out the planes. I thought they did a terrific job with ROF variety. I bought all the planes up once they went on special.

[Scojo]

Hi Shamrock,

I have received a pm from bearcat who is among those here that I have a lot of respect.

 

I will not comment further re JU52 as it is a great plane to purchase, but i ask everyone no more asking devs for developments of products that risk the success of this game.

This is the most politician type answer I've seen on this forum so far lol