CanadaOne Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 I'm looking to get either BOS or BOM this week, but terrain quality and big airfields are important to me as I tend to sandbox fly a lot. Does one have better terrain or bigger/concrete airfields than the other? Thank you.
BlitzPig_EL Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 The stock answer here is to get both. However, I understand the financial issues involved as well. For me, the Moscow map is far better, and has more varied airfields, and is better looking over all, especially the autumn version. Paved runways are a luxury anywhere in this sim. I don't think there are more than one on either of the maps. 2
=TBAS=Sshadow14 Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 With mission maker i think you can make any runway paved :D
SYN_Mike77 Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Which map is the best? Kuban! Well, out of the ones you can buy now what the porcine one has said is correct. I also find it easier to navigate with that map for some reason. The other thing to consider is the plane set that comes with each game. The map difference isn't that big, you might want to consider planes first.
ShamrockOneFive Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Between the two maps the Moscow map is of higher quality than the Stalingrad one. Its not to say that the Stalingrad one isn't as good but its just a matter of the team developed their map making skills a fair bit between releases and Moscow looks just that much better. Really impressive work. The Moscow region is also different than the Stalingrad region and that is represented here. The airbases tended to be bigger (both grass and concrete runways) and there are things like railways with twin tracks rather than single track near Stalingrad. Both are ideal though. I really enjoy flying over both areas. 3
CanadaOne Posted March 28, 2017 Author Posted March 28, 2017 Thank you for the quick responses. Nice to see this is an active forum. Some of the other places are like a doctor's waiting room. Moscow it will be. As I mentioned, I am a bit of a lazy sandbox flyer, and often as not I'm just happy to tool around and hopscotch the airfields I'm fine with the plane set included with either map.
CanadaOne Posted March 28, 2017 Author Posted March 28, 2017 Pardon me, but it says on the purchase page for BOS and BOM that the plane modifications and skins are all unlocked. I know this was a matter of some debate on other forums, and I don't want to start anything, but is it the case now that I don't have to fly a campaign - which I do not want to do - to get "the full plane"?
Guest deleted@30725 Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) I think as long as you buy it from steam or the official site then you get the standard versions that have the unlocked modifications and planes and therefore you can play online or in quick mission using all of the planes features. There is a 'starter' version I think that's supposed only to be sold in Russia that is locked. You might come across this version accidentally when looking for cheap discounted versions of the game on irregular retailers / non official retailers. I wouldn't necessarily dismiss the campaign altogether. The AI have gotten better so missions can be slightly more entertaining now. Edited March 28, 2017 by deleted@30725
BOO Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) moscow is an add on - you need to own BOS first. Edited March 28, 2017 by 5./ZG1_BOO
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 moscow is an add on - you need to own BOS first. No, it's not. BOM is standalone with the exception of Steam where, based on Steam's content management, BOM is sold as DLC.
Quax Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 moscow is an add on - you need to own BOS first. not really: IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Moscow can be used as a separate product or be integrated with BOS and/or BOK, resulting in one big WWII Eastern Front combat flight-sim.
Guest deleted@30725 Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) it says this in steam that you have to buy bos first. Not tried just buying bom so don't know if the text in steam is wrong? If you buy from official site you can buy both games separate. Edited March 28, 2017 by deleted@30725
CanadaOne Posted March 28, 2017 Author Posted March 28, 2017 I think as long as you buy it from steam or the official site then you get the standard versions that have the unlocked modifications and planes and therefore you can play online or in quick mission using all of the planes features. There is a 'starter' version I think that's supposed only to be sold in Russia that is locked. You might come across this version accidentally when looking for cheap discounted versions of the game on irregular retailers / non official retailers. I wouldn't necessarily dismiss the campaign altogether. The AI have gotten better so missions can be slightly more entertaining now. Excellent! Glad to hear everything is available from the start. I will definitely buy from the (this?) official site. I might play a bit of the campaign, but I really do tend to fly... informally. Some ground pounding in the Il2 and some small dogfights and I'm just fine. Get them all!!!!!! It's my birthday in a few months if you are feeling generous.
seafireliv Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 I'm looking to get either BOS or BOM this week, but terrain quality and big airfields are important to me as I tend to sandbox fly a lot. Does one have better terrain or bigger/concrete airfields than the other? Thank you. Hmm... In a war situation you take what you can get. Pilots don`t get to choose airfields, especially on the Russian front where the lines were always moving. To be honest i didn`t see much difference between either... I suppose BOM is better as it`s airfileds can be very big, but not quite what you expect. On one mission I was trying to find the airfiled, expecting an airstrip, when I realised it was just a very big neatly mowed field!
CanadaOne Posted March 28, 2017 Author Posted March 28, 2017 Hmm... In a war situation you take what you can get. Pilots don`t get to choose airfields, especially on the Russian front where the lines were always moving. To be honest i didn`t see much difference between either... I suppose BOM is better as it`s airfileds can be very big, but not quite what you expect. On one mission I was trying to find the airfiled, expecting an airstrip, when I realised it was just a very big neatly mowed field! True enough, but I'm not in a war situation; I'm at my desk with an espresso and a cat. By the by, do you know how big the download is for BOM? I've burned through most of my bandwidth and it's $2 a GB if I go over. 3
216th_Jordan Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) True enough, but I'm not in a war situation; I'm at my desk with an espresso and a cat. By the by, do you know how big the download is for BOM? I've burned through most of my bandwidth and it's $2 a GB if I go over. You download everything (Bos/bok/bom) but your account unlocks the content. I think the game is around 6-7 GB. (In multiplayer you can fly on all maps) Edited March 28, 2017 by 216th_Jordan
Chief_Mouser Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 The BoM map is a bit more interesting as the terrain is slightly more hilly. Not mountains, but rises and falls in the land; Stalingrad is fairly flat. The Il-2 in either BoS or BoM is excellent. Great fun! Cheers.
CanadaOne Posted March 29, 2017 Author Posted March 29, 2017 Thanks for all the replies. This is a good forum.
seafireliv Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 True enough, but I'm not in a war situation; I'm at my desk with an espresso and a cat. By the by, do you know how big the download is for BOM? I've burned through most of my bandwidth and it's $2 a GB if I go over. I also have a computer and a cat. i`m just saying, you ain`t gonna get perfect airfields in a war sim.
HippyDruid Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 BoM has the I-16 too. Such an awesome little plane for sight seeing. 1
CanadaOne Posted March 29, 2017 Author Posted March 29, 2017 I also have a computer and a cat. i`m just saying, you ain`t gonna get perfect airfields in a war sim. I hear ya. And I apologize if I sounded rude. In IL2, which I have been flying since the demo 15 years ago and now sits as a 75GB installation on my HD as IL2-BAT, there was a good variety of grass fields and paved runways. I was curious what the mix, if any, there was in either map. BoM has the I-16 too. Such an awesome little plane for sight seeing. I do enjoy my sight seeing. The I-16 might be my first ride.
ShamrockOneFive Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 Oh you'll have some fun with the I-16 on a sight seeing tour. The side view is unobstructed by canopy or glass so its just you and the scenery most of the time.
Guest deleted@50488 Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 Well, terrain is great for me in both BoS and BoM, and for sure will be in BoK, but above all, IMO, nothing beats IL-2 Battle of... when it comes to flight dynamics and the overall feel of flight it provides. That's why I have decided to unconditionally support it ...
Jade_Monkey Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 Bom has nicer airfields, bos has nicer terrain features (especially around the Volga)
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) "It's my birthday in a few months if you are feeling generous."You might be surprised by the generosity of this community. Keep your ears perked for the occasional give away. Usually during discount season.Oh, and Moscow is the better map, though, I prefer the BOS planeset more. Edited March 31, 2017 by II/JG17_HerrMurf
CanadaOne Posted March 31, 2017 Author Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) It's my birthday in a few months if you are feeling generous. :biggrin You might be surprised by the generosity of this community. Keep your ears perked for the occasional give away. Usually during discount season. Oh, and Moscow is the better map, though, I prefer the BOS planeset more. Honestly, I would not be surprised at all. Many years back, I got very bad pneumonia and it laid me out flat for months. Couldn't work and I got pretty poor. One of the guys on the flightsim forum I was on, an American, bought the original IL2 game and mailed out to me so I would have something to do while laid up sick. If there is anyone here from Texas, all I can say is you are a classy bunch of guys. Edited March 31, 2017 by CanadaOne
CanadaOne Posted March 31, 2017 Author Posted March 31, 2017 I bought BOM this morning. When do I get my little bar under my avatar? Is there a complimentary cup of coffee as well?
OrangeNoise Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I bought BOM this morning. When do I get my little bar under my avatar? Is there a complimentary cup of coffee as well? For better or worse the bar is only for people that preordered BoS, BoM or BoK That being said though some have taken to adding bars in their signature line to show their support
Lusekofte Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 Thanks for all the replies. This is a good forum. No it isn´t But anyway if you want to fly IL 2 and stuff made on the dark side of Ural , just give us a poke and we will fly with you
ShamrockOneFive Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 I bought BOM this morning. When do I get my little bar under my avatar? Is there a complimentary cup of coffee as well? The Russians don't know what a Double Double is so.... probably not The bars only show up for pre-orders. Though I think the team should consider an alternatively coloured bar for people who own the products after the fact. 1
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted March 31, 2017 Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) The Russians don't know what a Double Double is so.... probably not The bars only show up for pre-orders. Though I think the team should consider an alternatively coloured bar for people who own the products after the fact. Don't remember which Dev but one stated several months ago they were considering some sort of a ribbon or alternate bar for owners who got in after pre-orders. Edited March 31, 2017 by II/JG17_HerrMurf 1
CanadaOne Posted March 31, 2017 Author Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) For$66Cdn... I want a ribbon! I want the coffee as well, but I understand that could be a challenge to send through the mail. Edited March 31, 2017 by CanadaOne
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