Herne Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 me too, but what do people mean when they talk about the first aircraft to use a new flight model ?
Finkeren Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 me too, but what do people mean when they talk about the first aircraft to use a new flight model ? I believe they are expecting it to be the first aircraft to feature the corrected rudder forces modeling, which will be implemented on all aircraft. That may be so, but only if the next update is the one where they implement the rudder fix for all aircraft. The devs have repeatedly said, that they want to do the change for all aircraft simultaneosly, because it is going to radically change the handling and capabilities for each aircraft. That means, that they have been forced to create FMs for the BoK planes released so far with the "wrong" rudder model, in order to keep all planes at the same level. When the update comes that includes the rudder fix, which might be the next update, I don't know, it will be for all aircraft at once, not just for the Spit or any other plane.
Bullets Posted May 17, 2017 Author Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) me too, but what do people mean when they talk about the first aircraft to use a new flight model ? From what I am aware the devs are working on how airflow over the centre fuselage affects flight characteristics (vertical stability / yaw) I don't know if its a general engine work or if its done plane by plane. If its the latter then it may be the "first with the new model" EDIT- What Finkeren said Edited May 17, 2017 by Bullets
Jade_Monkey Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 A few pretties here to get you in the mood: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3598540/The-Photographer-captures-pin-sharp-images-final-55-airworthy-Spitfires-using-just-handheld-camera.html Beautiful! The mk.Vb's performance should be somewhat similar to Yak 1? I really look forward to non-VVS skins for the Spit.
Trooper117 Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 I really look forward to non-VVS skins for the Spit. Oh yes... Right with you on that one!
BlitzPig_EL Posted May 17, 2017 Posted May 17, 2017 Really looking forward to both the Supermarine and Bell aircraft. Options are a good thing, and we need more of them.
Boaty-McBoatface Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) Mk1 the best looking by far. Side by side with a Mk1 Hurricane and that's an image that brings tears to the eyes of any Pom. Edited May 18, 2017 by B0SS
LLv24_Zami Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 Not my all time favourite WW2 fighters but very interesting to see how Spit and P39 does in this game. Very welcomed addition and I'll be flying both.
-=PHX=-SuperEtendard Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 The mk.Vb's performance should be somewhat similar to Yak 1? IIRC speed wise at low altitude it would be similar to Yak-1, and at medium altitude similar to Yak-1B 1
Dutchvdm Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 Beautiful! The mk.Vb's performance should be somewhat similar to Yak 1? I really look forward to non-VVS skins for the Spit. I think it's nice that include non soviet skins, but i hope that the mp servers will not be flooded with spit's, p-39s and a-20's with RAF and USAAF markings... That would be a immersion killer tbh.. Grt M
Herne Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) I don't care what she looks like, I just want to fly her Edited May 18, 2017 by herne6210
Tag777 Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 I think it's nice that include non soviet skins, but i hope that the mp servers will not be flooded with spit's, p-39s and a-20's with RAF and USAAF markings... That would be a immersion killer tbh.. Grt M I suppose the server configuration is able to block some skins, as it do with the guns and payload. At least in WoL you can not select some weapons for certain missions.
Bullets Posted May 18, 2017 Author Posted May 18, 2017 I think it's nice that include non soviet skins, but i hope that the mp servers will not be flooded with spit's, p-39s and a-20's with RAF and USAAF markings... That would be a immersion killer tbh.. Grt M If I can't fly my spit with RAF Roundels on my wings don't expect to see me on that server
JimTM Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 I suppose the server configuration is able to block some skins, as it do with the guns and payload. At least in WoL you can not select some weapons for certain missions. Yes, server admins can specify the default skin and any optional skins.
Jade_Monkey Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 I think it's nice that include non soviet skins, but i hope that the mp servers will not be flooded with spit's, p-39s and a-20's with RAF and USAAF markings... That would be a immersion killer tbh.. Grt M I get your point. In my case, I have a very hard time seeing other planes' skins unless i'm really really close, so 99% of the time it doesnt make a difference and doesnt kill immersion for me. If you are into making videos, then it makes sense to keep the skins more relevant to the theatre.
OrLoK Posted May 18, 2017 Posted May 18, 2017 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=913004711 Gotta have my roundals! 1
Riderocket Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 I think it's nice that include non soviet skins, but i hope that the mp servers will not be flooded with spit's, p-39s and a-20's with RAF and USAAF markings... That would be a immersion killer tbh.. Grt M In MP, the mission should lock non VVS skins, people can use them in SP. I do not like non VVS skins in Russian Sim
-=PHX=-SuperEtendard Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 We could have some missions with only VVS skins, and some others with only P-40, Spit, etc, with only USAAF/RAF skins, some sort of emulating other theaters, imho it would be nice to have.
ITAF_Rani Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 (edited) That's mine... Edited May 19, 2017 by ITAF_Rani 1
BlitzPig_EL Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 In MP, the mission should lock non VVS skins, people can use them in SP. I do not like non VVS skins in Russian Sim But others do. You see, or maybe you don't, that enforcing your way on everyone only limits the numbers of players. I get that there is a very hard core of players that want to keep their playground very very exclusive, but that will only lead to the lock being put on the gate because there won't be enough money to maintain the playground and add newer, nicer things. 1
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Frankly, the more skins the better. I'm looking forward to some dude making a Spits v 109's and/or Zekes v Wildcats server down the road with ETO and PTO exclusive themes. That they are flying over Mother Russia for the moment does not bother me in the least. 3
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 I similarly won't care if someone is flying a P-39 in Russian skins out of Henderson, down the road, if that's what he loves. As long as he is a good opponent or wingman. 2
=WH=PangolinWranglin Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 I really hope that someone puts together a "North Africa" or "Malta" with the new planes that we get. It'd be a neat little map to have. If we get player made maps a full on Malta or NA map may be an actual thing down the line.
ITAF_Rani Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/29423-raf-ladies-flew-spitfires/?do=findComment&comment=474153
Herne Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 I came across this looking for info relating to another thread. it talks about the performance of the spit mk 1 and bf109 E, but regardless of if you agree with the performance or not, the pilot action reports are a good read. http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html
Wulf Posted May 24, 2017 Posted May 24, 2017 I came across this looking for info relating to another thread. it talks about the performance of the spit mk 1 and bf109 E, but regardless of if you agree with the performance or not, the pilot action reports are a good read. http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spit1vrs109e.html Fascinating stuff. Some of the action reports are really quite vivid. Thanks.
senseispcc Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) Number of Spitfire IX and Tunderbolt in the Soviet air force 1 of each ! Edited May 25, 2017 by senseispcc
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Number of Spitfire IX and Tunderbolt in the Soviet air force 1 of each ! I think I heard of 12 P-47s and almost 1700 LF Mk.IXs.
ACG_Kroko Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) 200 P-47s were delivered, primary they served in northern and baltic fleet, but the scale of their combat use was really limited Edited May 25, 2017 by I./ZG1_Krokodilor
unreasonable Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Airpages.ru says 1185 Spitfire IX. Although I do not think they saw much action. http://www.airpages.ru/eng/uk/spitll9.shtml
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Polish Squadrons loved Spits and Hurricanes and know how to use it in combat. I'm waiting impatient to try it with 307th. Curiosity from history, Polish squadrons held biggest numbers of downed Jerry's among all British&allied squadron during Battle of Britain.
Guest deleted@83466 Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Polish Squadrons loved Spits and Hurricanes and know how to use it in combat. I'm waiting impatient to try it with 307th. Curiosity from history, Polish squadrons held biggest numbers of downed Jerry's among all British&allied squadron during Battle of Britain. One of my favorite scenes from Battle of Britain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeVNvwBuad8
Jade_Monkey Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 One of my favorite scenes from Battle of Britain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeVNvwBuad8
Lusekofte Posted May 25, 2017 Posted May 25, 2017 Fitting a Spit with Daimler Benz --> Awesome That, is the most appalling thing I have ever read on the internet. Well they did 1
Nightrise Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Well they did bloody Germans ruining our spitfires!
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 Those Germans, finally giving it the Engine it deserved.
ShamrockOneFive Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 One of my favorite scenes from Battle of Britain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeVNvwBuad8 Repeat please! Repeat please! Oh... how I love that scene!
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted May 26, 2017 Posted May 26, 2017 There's book about Polish fighters during BOB which I recommend to read,and it was written not by Poles hence it can not be suspected of bias or lack of objectivity. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001334IVU/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
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