Dakpilot Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Were there any Tiger or Panther regiments at Kuban peninsula battles? although certainly in service and used at Kursk, and I remember reading that a small (503 Battalion?) number of Tigers were used in the attempt to relieve Stalingrad "Winter Storm" operation, although they were late arriving and only participated at the end of it in Jan 43 Cheers Dakpilot
hames123 Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 The Panther would be good, an excellent tank all tound that would outclass the Soviets until the 85mm version comes out. However, as anyone who has ever played the combat mission series of games would tell you, it is easy to kill a panther. Just need to do a bit of careful manovering and catch it side on, or pin is with a few of your own tanks.
Thad Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) People keep bringing up player controlled AAA, but really I think it's a non-starter. The number of people who'd be willing to sit around for hours waiting for something to come within range and then have a frantic 30sec, where they give off 3 - 4 salvos before the enemy is out of range again is not going to be very great. Salutations, True but there are 'mobile AA vehicles' that could be player controlled to follow along with tank columns and provide anti air support. Edited March 7, 2017 by Thad
Finkeren Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Salutations, True but there are 'mobile AA vehicles' that could be player controlled to follow along with tank columns and provide anti air support. Was that actually done historically? Seems that such vehicles would quickly be singled out by enemy fire.
Lusekofte Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Player operated AAA is quite popular in COD, when a airfield is under attack people tend to spawn in them and shoot. Quite effective too and fun
Thad Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Salutations, After some preliminary research I found two evenly matched tank competitors that could be made player controlled. The German Panzer 38(t) and the Soviet BT-7. Both were of similar size, armed with guns of comparable firepower, and had foreign roots--the Panzer 38(t) was a Czechoslovak design and the BT-7 was an evolution of the American Christie tank. While these would not present a good solution to the potency of the T-34 they would not unbalance anything and could provide some competitive light tank battles. Edited March 7, 2017 by Thad
Thad Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Was that actually done historically? Seems that such vehicles would quickly be singled out by enemy fire. Player control 'might' make it more risky and deadly for an attacker.
Finkeren Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Player control 'might' make it more risky and deadly for an attacker. I was talking about the mobile AAA being targeted by enemy ground units.
Thad Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Ah... well yes, but hopefully any mobile AAA will be part of armored units, player and AI. Combined arms concept. In any case... war is dangerous.
Finkeren Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Ah... well yes, but hopefully any mobile AAA will be part of armored units, player and AI. Combined arms concept. In any case... war is dangerous. Yeah, but accompanying tanks won't really be able to protect mobile AAA from being singled out as an easy target, that's calling a lot of attention to itself by firing tracers into the air. That's why I'm asking if it was done historically, that mobile AAA went into combat alongside tanks, because it seems unacceptably risky to me.
Fliegel Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Yeah, but accompanying tanks won't really be able to protect mobile AAA from being singled out as an easy target, that's calling a lot of attention to itself by firing tracers into the air. That's why I'm asking if it was done historically, that mobile AAA went into combat alongside tanks, because it seems unacceptably risky to me. Probably not trucks, but AA Crusaders were commonly with units of Cromwells. Though I never read about a tank engagement where those two attack together and I do not think they did that. They protect the column and they were also often used against soft targets, not just planes. And to clear what tanks left behind.
Monostripezebra Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 A player controled AAA vehicle for both sides would be very interesting... 3
Finkeren Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Probably not trucks, but AA Crusaders were commonly with units of Cromwells. Though I never read about a tank engagement where those two attack together and I do not think they did that. They protect the column and they were also often used against soft targets, not just planes. And to clear what tanks left behind. Sure enough, as part of a column of vehicles moving behind the front, I certainly see the need for mobile AAA. However, logistical moving behind the lines is not really what we're doing in MP. We more or less spawn directly into the fray, which is why I am questioning the use of mobile AAA. If they stay close enough to actually protect the tanks from air attack, they won't last long. Just as I imagine would happen IRL, they will probably be singled out by enemy tanks as very obvious and easy targets. Edited March 7, 2017 by Finkeren
Fliegel Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 Sure enough, as part of a column of vehicles moving behind the front, I certainly see the need for mobile AAA. However, logistical moving behind the lines is not really what we're doing in MP. We more or less spawn directly into the fray, which is why I am questioning the use of mobile AAA. If they stay close enough to actually protect the tanks from air attack, they won't last long. Just as I imagine would happen IRL, they will probably be singled out by enemy tanks as very obvious and easy targets. There were trucks that brought ammo to the tanks to the first line. There were infantry around. The tanks were not alone (in the ideal situation). But the enemy would probalby rather prefer targets that could destroy them before they show up. And the armoured AA were somewhere behind the tanks. They could be hull down, not with the ideal view to the battlefield but still close.
Riderocket Posted March 8, 2017 Author Posted March 8, 2017 I think the KV-1 and PZ.IV (I'm pretty sure those are the other two tanks in this game?) Would be a good set for the next tanks. Could someone please make a list of all the tanks in BoX at the moment (in the mission editor)
Dakpilot Posted March 8, 2017 Posted March 8, 2017 Not certain this is up to date http://www.igcd.net/game.php?id=1000012204 Cheers Dakpilot 1
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