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[=E3F=Makhina]

Hello to all IL2 Hunters and Bombers and to the team behind this games ^^

 

So, little question ^^

 

I play since IL2 1946 has your games and currently has BoS and BoM and I would like to take Battle of Kuban with my camardes and therefore make a bundle if possible and that sela brings a financial bonus for the purchase of a pack of 4 games for example? Is that possible?

 

Cordially

 

Malkhina

Edited February 7, 2017 by =E3F=Makhina

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

No, I don't think it's possible, nor do I see that happening any time soon.

 

These guys need our full support.

[No601_Prangster]

If you want the game cheap wait for the next sale.

[=E3F=Makhina]

I do not know if I'll be able to wait x)

[Nil]

Hello Makhina! 

The il2 team needs all the financial support we can give to them, they are working very hard every day to make is sim better.

The more they sell, the more they likely create new features, war theaters, planes...

Creating this kind of this sim is very very expensive.

 

I recommend you to just buy BOK, that is a best thing you can do for them and for you because believe me, it will be a fantastic addon.

 

Hello to all IL2 Hunters and Bombers

And Transports! 

Edited February 7, 2017 by 1./TG1_Nil

[Lusekofte]

I think this brand can stay on its own two feet now. If your into ww2 sim, you are foolish not to own this brand. If you cannot wait for a sale I suggest you buy BOS and BOK . I think you will not regret it giving it some time

[ShamrockOneFive]

If you absolutely can't wait for a sale... Buy IL-2: BoS standard and get started there. You can then pickup Moscow and Kuban as funding/sale prices/etc. allow. I say get BoS because a lot of aircraft will be overlapping with Kuban so you can still play multiplayer (including with maps) without having Kuban right away. That gets you one foot in the door and you can always strategically buy stuff as needed/desired later.

[FTC_Etherlight]

All the important stuff has been said, I feel compelled to touch on another subject, though:

 

I've now witnessed a few accounts of the community basically acting as sales agents now, in terms of preemptively defending pricing policies without them even being questioned and elaborating on the financial situation of the developer (which we don't even know to any serious degree, obviously) and more or less do advertising/begging on behalf of the developers to varying degrees. Honestly guys? Let's cut that out. It feels like we're Jehovas Witnesses or doing a TV spot for children in need. Let those guys do their jobs in terms of Sales and do what a community ought to do: Enjoy and talk about their stuff, provide feedback and be welcoming to newcomers, the basics. ^^

 

No need for anyone to get defensive, just an observation without looking at anyone in particular and the resulting opinion.

[DD_Arthur]

, I feel compelled to touch on another subject, though:

 

 

No need for anyone to get defensive, just an observation without looking at anyone in particular and the resulting opinion.

 

Welllll.....we actually do know a few things about the development of this game as Jason has been pretty open about development.

 

 For instance; he has a time limit of around eighteen months from his appointment as series producer to meet certain production and sales targets set by 1C or that he has a monthly wages bill of approx. $80k to meet.

 

Think about that;  $80k per month on salaries alone.  Plus all the associated office and equipment costs, hosting, etc.

 

That is the reality of trying to produce a commercial product with a professional team.  i don't think it can be that much of a problem if members of this forum who enjoy this game try to encourage other potential users to purchase it and thus provide the finance to help further development? 

[Jade_Monkey]

Yes, this is not Call of duty. In such a niche market short changing the producers is not a great idea if you want to see more of it in the future.

 

I do understand however that the price can be steep depending on where you live.

[SJ_Butcher]

I understand the money value in many countries varies, for me in Chile 70 bucks is a lot, I can travel to work every day for a month, but I like this hobby a lot and try to buy and support this amazing team, this team is the best in fly simulators, soo much dedication and awesome work that worth every penny I can earn working I suggest you guys do the same, save money if you can't right now, the  devs will be happy to get all the money to continue this amazing project.  

[-TBC-AeroAce]

I understand that the devs deserve every penny....... But actually if they had a bulk buy deal like all 3 titles for 20%-30% off they will be getting more than just a single purchase and will attract more players. I think it would be stupid for them not to do it. Think about it as a new player when there is BOS, BOM, BOK, BOMW, BOOK..........all at 70$. That would be a bit off putting! Making a bulk buy deal would not harm the devs imo.

Edited February 8, 2017 by AeroAce

[Jade_Monkey]

I understand that the devs deserve every penny....... But actually if they had a bulk buy deal like all 3 titles for 20%-30% off they will be getting more than just a single purchase and will attract more players. I think it would be stupid for them not to do it. Think about it as a new player when there is BOS, BOM, BOK, BOMW, BOOK..........all at 70$. That would be a bit off putting! Making a bulk buy deal would not harm the devs imo.

I think that will come with time. You have to first maximize revenue from early adopters and then you can create these bundles for people who would never buy them separately.

Edited February 10, 2017 by Jade_Monkey

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

-snip-

 

No.

[Matt]

Don't want to sound disrespectful and i realise that income varies a lot between people and countries, but just a little overview (disregarding the Ju-52 and Yak-1b extras now):

 

BoS : Released October 2014

BoM : Released May 2016 (19 months later)

BoK : Release planned for December 2017 (19 months later)

 

Price for each, if you miss the sale, $49.99 for standard version and $79.99 for premium, $69.99 preorder for BoK.

 

If you break that down to a monthly priced based on the release pattern, it's between $2.63 and $4.21 a month that have to save, if you miss the sale or preorder discount for premium. 

 

Just some food for thought. It might be worth it paying the full price in the long run.

[Venturi]

I thought this title read

 

"groped purchase"

[-TBC-AeroAce]

Don't want to sound disrespectful and i realise that income varies a lot between people and countries, but just a little overview (disregarding the Ju-52 and Yak-1b extras now):

 

BoS : Released October 2014

BoM : Released May 2016 (19 months later)

BoK : Release planned for December 2017 (19 months later)

 

Price for each, if you miss the sale, $49.99 for standard version and $79.99 for premium, $69.99 preorder for BoK.

 

If you break that down to a monthly priced based on the release pattern, it's between $2.63 and $4.21 a month that have to save, if you miss the sale or preorder discount for premium. 

 

Just some food for thought. It might be worth it paying the full price in the long run.

That is all very good for the people that have been here from the start! All I am saying is that once there are more theaters and to be really involved on the MP scence u need them all. It will be a put off to newcomers without some kind of bulk buy!

 

Think if u are trying to buy now and only have limmited funds! What do u get? I personaly would get BOM to make sure all planes can be used in all theaters! But then I would be left without the top peforming ac! So ....

 

If such a thing exists it will only bring more people to the table, hence more money  and It will be less of a put off !!!!!!!!!!!

Edited February 8, 2017 by AeroAce

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Kuban will not go on sale until well after release. Everything else goes on sale a little less than quarterly. I'd expect the next sale in 60 days (maybe less) or so.

[Nil]

 Let's cut that out. 

Only if this sim is getting bad, which is the total opposite now.

Also, this sims deserves much more players.

When I find something very good, I recommend to people who might like it as well.

Edited February 9, 2017 by 1./TG1_Nil

[ShamrockOneFive]

That is all very good for the people that have been here from the start! All I am saying is that once there are more theaters and to be really involved on the MP scence u need them all. It will be a put off to newcomers without some kind of bulk buy!

 

Think if u are trying to buy now and only have limmited funds! What do u get? I personaly would get BOM to make sure all planes can be used in all theaters! But then I would be left without the top peforming ac! So ....

 

If such a thing exists it will only bring more people to the table, hence more money  and It will be less of a put off !!!!!!!!!!!

 

It's a bit tough to get someone in right now but as I was saying above... best to jump in at IL-2: BoS and then work your way through the product lineup from there. All of the multiplayer servers I've been on have been great at catering to both BoS and BoM only players and the devs made a great decision of opening up all maps for multiplayer regardless of product purchase. That makes it easier to get folks into it even if they haven't bought everything right away.

[Matt]

Think if u are trying to buy now and only have limmited funds! What do u get? I personaly would get BOM to make sure all planes can be used in all theaters! But then I would be left without the top peforming ac! So ....

I just checked the last 20 missions on Wings of Liberty (the most populated server and surely the newcomer would go there first) and every single one of them features planes of the BoS planeset. So i would suggest to wait for a sale and get BoS, if you want to get into the series. And it's much cheaper than any bundle would be.

 

I'm sure that when BoK gets released and they move on to the Pacific, there will be a grouped "Russian Front" package at some point, but expecting a bundle less than a year after the release of BoM and with BoK in developement, is not really called for imho, especially not when considering the frequent sales (with up to 50% off).

Edited February 9, 2017 by Matt

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

All the important stuff has been said, I feel compelled to touch on another subject, though:

 

I've now witnessed a few accounts of the community basically acting as sales agents now, in terms of preemptively defending pricing policies without them even being questioned and elaborating on the financial situation of the developer (which we don't even know to any serious degree, obviously) and more or less do advertising/begging on behalf of the developers to varying degrees. Honestly guys? Let's cut that out. It feels like we're Jehovas Witnesses or doing a TV spot for children in need. Let those guys do their jobs in terms of Sales and do what a community ought to do: Enjoy and talk about their stuff, provide feedback and be welcoming to newcomers, the basics. ^^

 

No need for anyone to get defensive, just an observation without looking at anyone in particular and the resulting opinion.

I don't tell people to buy the game simply to support the DEVs although that is a consideration. I tell people to buy the game because it is good and well worth the money. I also put my money where my mouth is and do give-a-ways a couple times a year.................mostly to support the DEV's and share some community spirit.

[=VARP=Cygann]

I don't tell people to buy the game simply to support the DEVs although that is a consideration. I tell people to buy the game because it is good and well worth the money. I also put my money where my mouth is and do give-a-ways a couple times a year.................mostly to support the DEV's and share some community spirit.

 

This right here Sir is what makes this community stand out a bit among many others over the years.

 

I try to do the same (only doing so with ROF, but should really start with getting back to WWII myself, been stuck in WWI for much longer then planned ).

 

But let me point out another side to look at it:

 

I usually gift to real life friends that I know can't purchase all of the content on their own. Unfortunately, in some countries like my own, only lucky ones are left with enough money at the end of the month to even buy the basic hardware and software, let alone buy everything just to show support. This is why I strongly support discounts and bundles. On discounts I can buy 2 - 3 copies and then gift one or two to the people I like to share my hobby with.

Devs get about same (even more) from me because it's all I am able/willing to spend at the time, but community gets extra value in having two more that would probably not never get into it at a full price.

 

Since, it's a digital product digitally distributed, there is no big extra cost for developers per sold copy.

I believe it is a win-win situation to have such deals periodically. And also speak this as a software developer who also make a living from people that buy software.

 

I think 777 practice is good so far and IMHO adding extra bundle deals or small discounts to buying multiple copies at once should not be harmful to them or the community in any way. Just the opposite, it could (no one can guarantee it) create larger community and future growth. But I am sure 777 know this very well, it's for some other people on forums that I am pointing this out. Every new community member is valuable to us all, not just game developers.