72AG-DED- Random Normal +. Free talks, offers and suggestions

[Valdamar]

Topic for any talks about Random Normal + server.

 

Any offers, suggestions and questions are welcome here  

[sinned]

We need more LW pilots who are more focused in team play and understanding objectives.

 

On LW side, with exception of few, there are too many LW pilots who do not communicate or deploy strategic flights. Many come in, get into 109, fly to somewhere and get slaughtered by good vvs pilots and then leave.

 

LW is being slaughtered on this server.

[=BES=Senor_Jefe]

I think that's just a piece of a bigger situation, in the fact that a great number fly LW solely to dogfight (much like any server). It's more prevalent in LW because 109s are easier to fly in an expert server and B&Z is an easy tactic for newer or less skilled pilots to pick up.

 

LW gets slaughtered because there's simply far less ground attackers comparatively.

 

Overall, I somewhat agree with you that there's less teamwork. But the last week or so I've been on around 0100 GMT, there has been lots of cooperation and some fun strategy going around the LW fighter and bombers, with some fairly complex runs.

[sinned]

Hello, i think the server's victory condition is bugged after map change.

 

Just flew a mission per usual, but though we destroyed linked 2 convoy, 1 arty and 1 wh, no ref victory was given.

 

B4 time runs out, we destroyed more oyher arty, convoys but withdraw at the end.

 

Pls can you yake a look?

[sinned]

I think that's just a piece of a bigger situation, in the fact that a great number fly LW solely to dogfight (much like any server). It's more prevalent in LW because 109s are easier to fly in an expert server and B&Z is an easy tactic for newer or less skilled pilots to pick up.

 

LW gets slaughtered because there's simply far less ground attackers comparatively.

 

Overall, I somewhat agree with you that there's less teamwork. But the last week or so I've been on around 0100 GMT, there has been lots of cooperation and some fun strategy going around the LW fighter and bombers, with some fairly complex runs.

Thanks for comment...

 

The issue is that when these guys go off with 109... they just end up get shotdown.

With exception of few, they get slaughtered by seasoned vvs pilots.

 

If they can at least hold a bit... i can bomb and win campaign.

[Valdamar]

LW gets slaughtered because there's simply far less ground attackers comparatively.

 

Sometimes we are crying about far less bomb loadout could be taken by VVS's attackers.

 

But still, I believe once upon a time we could change sides and try flight vica versa. I wanna try myself how to win with JUs and BFs, you'll get into our shoes. Think it will be good and fun experience.

 

Ps very sorry for my englizh

Edited January 25, 2017 by Valdamar

[Valdamar]

Hello, i think the server's victory condition is bugged after map change.

 

Just flew a mission per usual, but though we destroyed linked 2 convoy, 1 arty and 1 wh, no ref victory was given.

 

B4 time runs out, we destroyed more oyher arty, convoys but withdraw at the end.

 

Pls can you yake a look?

Could you please provide server team with more info about that mission (id number, time and date etc)?

 

PS Folks, just to set all dots over i - i'm not from the server team, just trying to help both sides to get info about server and its rules.

[=BES=Senor_Jefe]

 

But still, I believe once upon a time we could change sides and try flight vica versa. I wanna try myself how to win with JUs and BFs, you'll get into our shoes. Think it will be good and fun experience.

 

Ps very sorry for my englizh

I actually fly both sides very regularly. I fly Random Expert LW, TAW VVS, and WoL both lol. I really enjoy every plane in this sim and the strategy to be effective against eachother. That's why I can't just pick a side!

[Valdamar]

That's why I can't just pick a side!

Join the red side, padawan!!!

[sinned]

Hi, pls can you check the victory conditions?

 

Regardless of how many objectives are destroyed, no victory is given to germans or soviets.

 

You can also see that front line has not moved at all...

[AK77]

For the destruction of the warehouse now give one point of capture, not two.

[sinned]

For the destruction of the warehouse now give one point of capture, not two.

Wh needs to be assimilated into one then instead of two. In this new victory condition, u need to take at least one airfield to win a campaign.

 

Why bother with wh when it gives you only 1 kp, and you need minimum 2 sorties at alt 3000m to destroy?

[Cathaoir]

What's up with the stats.....they have not updated for a while now.

[-DED-ASF]

What's up with the stats.....they have not updated for a while now.

 

Fixed. But some sorties data is lost (due to experiment with bot's)

[Cathaoir]

Thanks....You look like my cat....  :D

[sinned]

Hello,

 

Thanks for server.

Questions!

 

1. Does map now spawns AI planes? Where can I find more info about their logic of appearence?

2. Does it require a takedown of an airfield to win a KP? Destroying a wh, 2 convoys and arty no longer wins a campaign. It has become very stale.

Edited February 4, 2017 by sinned

[-DED-ASF]

 

 

1. Does map now spawns AI planes?

At the moment no. Maybe in future. We trying, but have some troubles with our server commander. 

 

 

Destroying a wh, 2 convoys and arty no longer wins a campaign

You need 5 points. Every target now brings to you only one.  (https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/27405-72ag-ded-random-normal/ - server info)

[Cathaoir]

Curious....If all have Icons on but one pilot does't, is that a bug?

[AK77]

I hope so.

[sinned]

Team DED, some suggestions... pls.

 

1. Taking away credits no longer gives players to cherish their planes. I am also hearing complaints...

 

2. It is now almost impossible to win a campaign unless you have a squad of 2-3 ppl who play together for 2.5 hr in uncontested sky. This means no single players will alone come in. Server is being dried out.

 

Pls can you have old settings back? This server is dying.

[AK77]

Team DED, some suggestions... pls.

 

1. Taking away credits no longer gives players to cherish their planes. I am also hearing complaints...

 

2. It is now almost impossible to win a campaign unless you have a squad of 2-3 ppl who play together for 2.5 hr in uncontested sky. This means no single players will alone come in. Server is being dried out.

 

Pls can you have old settings back? This server is dying.

1. Economy frightened pilots, mostly "blue" ...

2. Two pilots can capture point. It depends on the distance to targets.

[sinned]

1. Economy frightened pilots, mostly "blue" ...

2. Two pilots can capture point. It depends on the distance to targets.

You are also no longer logging in.

This is turning into a furball server.

[sinned]

Hi,

 

Thanks for putting credits back.

 

Can I suggest time extension of missions? 2hr 30 minutes is quite short to accomplish a win especially now that you need to destroy more objectives. 3 flights to dropzone alone takes about 1 hr 30 mins.

[KaC_Furias]

Hello

 

Currently, this server is my favorite. Thanks !

 

It is a pleasure to fly by VVS or Luftwaffe.

 

However the server is turned off at the time. When he comes back?

[-DED-ASF]

 

 

When he comes back?

Just now  

[KaC_Furias]

, thanks !

[sinned]

Hi, pls can you either extend time of mission or make the mission obj more doable? It is tiring to fly 2hr 30 mins flawlessly bomb only but no way close to win a map.

[AK77]

Hi, pls can you either extend time of mission or make the mission obj more doable? It is tiring to fly 2hr 30 mins flawlessly bomb only but no way close to win a map.

А ключи от ангара, где бомбы лежат, не дать?(And the keys to the hangar, where the bombs are, do not give?)

[sinned]

А ключи от ангара, где бомбы лежат, не дать?(And the keys to the hangar, where the bombs are, do not give?)

Soviets have no bombs? Thats unfortunate... my favorite bomb sets are there. 500kg and 250kg.

[sinned]

Hello.

 

1. Vvs has more kp to capture (almost double). Why the penalty for vvs?

2. Can we pls make the missions more doable for solo? I fly for 2.30 hr staight only bombing without dying but so far from 5 kp. Can at least airfield have 2 kp or extend time?

 

Thank you

[Cathaoir]

HI

 

Last night I got the message saying that I was getting 0 credit due to something about being shot down by friendly fire...there was only one red pilot at the time and he was no where near me.... the target was a warehouse target that I had priviously attacked. believe it was mission # 775.

 

thanks

[sinned]

Bug report. Soviet warehouse generates at grid 1716 only spawns with 1 section and not 2sections.

This makes wh impossible to destroy.

 

This happend 4 times.

[sinned]

Admin, hello

 

Can you update please the winning conditions?

 

It looks like there has been some changes to kp.

 

Not sure what tgts worth how many kp and how many kp needed to win a map.

 

Thanks.

[72AG_Crusader]

Bug report. Soviet warehouse generates at grid 1716 only spawns with 1 section and not 2sections.

This makes wh impossible to destroy.

 

This happend 4 times.

Will fix asap.

[sinned]

Hello do u guys looking to reinstate this server?

I am mindful of recent changes you guys are implementing in expert server.

 

Looking fwd to fly here again.