Ribbon Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 is there going to be aircraft carriers? Like in 1946, for me harder the landing is, more enjoyment it provides!
ShamrockOneFive Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 is there going to be aircraft carriers? Like in 1946, for me harder the landing is, more enjoyment it provides! There were no aircraft carriers that fought in the Battle of Kuban. The battle took place across most of 1943 starting early in the year and going until about October. I'd encourage you to read up on the Kuban bridgehead and the fighting there. The history is quite fascinating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuban_bridgehead The longer term goal has been announced to take the series away from the Eastern Front for a time and do some Pacific scenarios. Jason Williams announced back in September (https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/25072-announcing-battle-kuban-and-development-plan/) IL-2: Battle of Kuban as a stepping stone from the East to the Pacific with ocean and ship technology developed in Kuban (necessary for this battle with its sea battles) and then further developed with aircraft carriers for IL-2: Battle of Midway and Battle of Okinawa. Kuban should release around December of this year and Midway would get started the year after that (maybe with a release of December 2018... or early in 2019). 2
Dakpilot Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 Until Midway you can look at French Carrier Bearn in Rise of flight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gElOamslE-s https://riseofflight.com/forum/topic/48354-mod-bearn-french-aircraft-carrier-1928/ Cheers Dakpilot
Trooper117 Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 is there going to be aircraft carriers? Wipes coffee off of screen... bless him!
=WH=PangolinWranglin Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 Wipes coffee off of screen... bless him! Hahahahahaha... that gave me a good chuckle. On the topic of ship stuff, we aren't even getting torpedoes with BoK, sadly.
Ribbon Posted January 21, 2017 Author Posted January 21, 2017 There were no aircraft carriers that fought in the Battle of Kuban. The battle took place across most of 1943 starting early in the year and going until about October. I'd encourage you to read up on the Kuban bridgehead and the fighting there. The history is quite fascinating: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuban_bridgehead The longer term goal has been announced to take the series away from the Eastern Front for a time and do some Pacific scenarios. Jason Williams announced back in September (https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/25072-announcing-battle-kuban-and-development-plan/) IL-2: Battle of Kuban as a stepping stone from the East to the Pacific with ocean and ship technology developed in Kuban (necessary for this battle with its sea battles) and then further developed with aircraft carriers for IL-2: Battle of Midway and Battle of Okinawa. Kuban should release around December of this year and Midway would get started the year after that (maybe with a release of December 2018... or early in 2019). i never read about South America implementation in WW2 and i didn't know time of BAttle of kuban, i know USA didn't have almost any navy to defend merchants on the east coast attacked by U-boats and later build amaizing navy so i was thinking some carrier did some patrol there later. However i did watch some movie of neutral kuba providing shelter for both sides, might be wrong! thanks for URL i'll check it!
Ribbon Posted January 21, 2017 Author Posted January 21, 2017 Wipes coffee off of screen... bless him! ha ha! i hope short circuit happend to your screen! even i know a lot about WW2 i don't know south american place in it! except some countries being neutral and providing shelter for both sides after naval battle. So i did wrong by not informing my self and asking this, kill me!
IRRE_Centx Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) Wow it took me 10 minutes to understand why you were speaking about South America, east coast of USA and "neutral kuba"... However i did watch some movie of neutral kuba providing shelter for both sides, might be wrong! I think you missunderstand something here: Kuban is not the same thing as Cuba xD Cuba is cigars, rhum, Caribean see, whatever you want. Kuban is close to the Crimean peninsula, on the Black Sea... It's at the opposite side of the world dude Edited January 21, 2017 by -IRRE-Centx 4
Ribbon Posted January 21, 2017 Author Posted January 21, 2017 Wow it took me 10 minutes to understand why you were speaking about South America, east coast of USA and "neutral kuba"... I think you missunderstand something here: Kuban is not the same thing as Cuba xD Cuba is cigars, rhum, Caribean see, whatever you want. Kuban is close to the Crimean peninsula, on the Black Sea... It's at the opposite side of the world dude never felt more stupid than now! and still don't know anything about Kuban, i thought it was Cuba. thanks i'll research it! i mistaken CUBA for Kuban(which i never heard off), i'll delete thread and not showing here for quite some time lol 1
IRRE_Centx Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) i'll delete thread and not showing here for quite some time lol Don't worry, mistakes can happen especially for non-native English speakers And it's not the most stupid thing we saw on this forum (but I have to admit that I laughed when I understood the confusion ) Here is a documentary for you, which sums up quite nicely the battle Kuban battle start at 28min, but I recommend to watch it entirely to understand why this region was important for Germans and Russians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3A2BWgyjA Edited January 21, 2017 by -IRRE-Centx
Tompa_73 Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 He is not the only one that has mistaken or didnt know what the battle for Kuban was or where it was taken place. I am one of em.(not gonna say where I thought it was though) But on the other hand, it will be interesting to learn something new. (checking out the video)
Rjel Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 never felt more stupid than now! and still don't know anything about Kuban, i thought it was Cuba. thanks i'll research it! i mistaken CUBA for Kuban(which i never heard off), i'll delete thread and not showing here for quite some time lol Don't feel stupid. None of us knows all there is to know about WWII. There are a few here who pretend they do though. You sound like someone who wants to learn. You'll do fine here. 1
Ribbon Posted January 21, 2017 Author Posted January 21, 2017 Don't worry, mistakes can happen especially for non-native English speakers And it's not the most stupid thing we saw on this forum (but I have to admit that I laughed when I understood the confusion ) Here is a documentary for you, which sums up quite nicely the battle Kuban battle start at 28min, but I recommend to watch it entirely to understand why this region was important for Germans and Russians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3A2BWgyjA thanks! did some quick research and i think it will be great, expecially map! it will be nice flying in mountain area for a change..... I'll watch that vid for sure, thanks! thanks ppl this is the best community i ever saw. see you in the air!
ShamrockOneFive Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 never felt more stupid than now! and still don't know anything about Kuban, i thought it was Cuba. thanks i'll research it! i mistaken CUBA for Kuban(which i never heard off), i'll delete thread and not showing here for quite some time lol I'm glad we were able to help clear this up Definitely a cool map area with some interesting terrain along the Black Sea coast. I think it'll be a real treat!
Yogiflight Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 I suppose, not too many of us knew the Kuban before the old IL2 Sturmovik 1946. I learned to know it, because it was the area, where you could fly the Bf110 G2.
Monostripezebra Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 Just use the Stalingrad Carrier Technique! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I70aSwFLLmw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oeclt3giOI 1
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 I suppose, not too many of us knew the Kuban before the old IL2 Sturmovik 1946. I learned to know it, because it was the area, where you could fly the Bf110 G2. Been there. I was creating missions for the old Il-2 (pre-FB, mind you) when browsing through the map list and I stumbled on Kuban. My first thought was 'what does Cuba have to do with this', which led to research and so and so. The landscape doesn't fall too far behind Cuba though.
coconut Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 Been there. I was creating missions for the old Il-2 (pre-FB, mind you) when browsing through the map list and I stumbled on Kuban. My first thought was 'what does Cuba have to do with this', which led to research and so and so. He's alive! Kuban was my favourite map in War Thunder. Also thought it was Cuba. I mean, it's called World War for a reason, right? Doesn't take too much imagination to imagine there was combat there.... if you don't think too much about it or your knowledge of geography is as bad as mine. 1
Ribbon Posted January 22, 2017 Author Posted January 22, 2017 Just use the Stalingrad Carrier Technique! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I70aSwFLLmw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oeclt3giOI good one hehe!
hames123 Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Actually, not all neutral countries allowed ships from both sides to dock there. For example, Uruguay ordered the Graf Spee to leave the country after ut had sailed into a river to hide. Instead of doing this, the Captain of the Graf Spee scuttled his ship and shot himself, rather than emerge and fight the Royal Navy, which he believed was superior. I knew that the Kuban was somewhere in the South of the USSR, at the black sea, but I still do not know what the map covers(will sevastrepol be in?)
Feathered_IV Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Feel good thread of the year. Don't worry about it RR. Happens to us all in some form or other. I recall one or two Americans back in the old Il-2 days expressing surprise and disbelief when hearing that Stalin was from Georgia... 5
Dakpilot Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Actually, not all neutral countries allowed ships from both sides to dock there. For example, Uruguay ordered the Graf Spee to leave the country after ut had sailed into a river to hide. Instead of doing this, the Captain of the Graf Spee scuttled his ship and shot himself, rather than emerge and fight the Royal Navy, which he believed was superior. I knew that the Kuban was somewhere in the South of the USSR, at the black sea, but I still do not know what the map covers(will sevastrepol be in?) DD # 135 discusses and shows the Kuban Map https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/168-developer-diary/page-4?do=findComment&comment=434343 Although it is 32% bigger than Stalingrad Map and Includes Kerch peninsula, it does not have the main area of Crimea and thus no Sevastopol Cheers Dakpilot
Ribbon Posted January 22, 2017 Author Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) Actually, not all neutral countries allowed ships from both sides to dock there. For example, Uruguay ordered the Graf Spee to leave the country after ut had sailed into a river to hide. Instead of doing this, the Captain of the Graf Spee scuttled his ship and shot himself, rather than emerge and fight the Royal Navy, which he believed was superior. I knew that the Kuban was somewhere in the South of the USSR, at the black sea, but I still do not know what the map covers(will sevastrepol be in?) yeah that was the movie i watched Feel good thread of the year. Don't worry about it RR. Happens to us all in some form or other. I recall one or two Americans back in the old Il-2 days expressing surprise and disbelief when hearing that Stalin was from Georgia... many facts i don't know about WW2, only major facts learned in school, WW2 movies and things they serve us in documentaries(viasat hitlerstory lol), there is many battle fronts i don't know even happened. That i like in il2, focus on one battlefront. Ten day's of autumn is great campaign following pilots diary focusing on all aspect not just fight, giving great immersion, hopefully more campaigns like that will be released! DD # 135 discusses and shows the Kuban Map https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/168-developer-diary/page-4?do=findComment&comment=434343 Although it is 32% bigger than Stalingrad Map and Includes Kerch peninsula, it does not have the main area of Crimea and thus no Sevastopol Cheers Dakpilot i saw that one picture of kuban map in development, i think hills and some mountain will give use new kind of dogfight style. Are there any speculations when map could be released for BoK owners to test it (Q?)? UPDATE: never mind find it! =July= Edited January 22, 2017 by redribbon
Rjel Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Feel good thread of the year. Don't worry about it RR. Happens to us all in some form or other. I recall one or two Americans back in the old Il-2 days expressing surprise and disbelief when hearing that Stalin was from Georgia... Honest to God, that really made me laugh out loud Feathered.
Ribbon Posted January 22, 2017 Author Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) Feel good thread of the year. Don't worry about it RR. Happens to us all in some form or other. I recall one or two Americans back in the old Il-2 days expressing surprise and disbelief when hearing that Stalin was from Georgia... thanks for comforting me it really make me laugh! Edited January 22, 2017 by redribbon
hames123 Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) I have Asperger Syndrome so I study alot on a particular subject. And that subject just happens to be conflicts since 1815. Although I am only a kid, I still know a ton because I read loads, and I enjoy this game as it is a way to sort of fly the planes you read about in history books(I just hope they add the RAF soon, Malta could be a good theatre, with a Hurricane, Spitfire, Beufort, Beufighter and a premium Swordfish(The last 3 would be the anti-ship assets, along with submarines base at Malta, that sank tons of German and Italian shipping and forced the Germans and Italians to try and subdue the island). Just imagine a server with a non-stop game where random British, Italian and German convoys are spawned and have to be attacked, and random flights of Ju52s try and fly across the med and need to be located and destroyed. The Germans would have to protect their assets by shooting down British aircraft and possibly destroying the airfield(basically winning them the campaign), as well as sinking submarines in the harbor and sailing around the med. Also, vulting and lone wulfing with German planes near Malta would be normal. Edited January 23, 2017 by hames123
Finkeren Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) It's funny how we as humans get so enbarrassed when lapses in our knowledge are exposed. It makes no sense, because none of us have anything close to perfect knowledge, even on topics we care deeply about. There really is no need to feel embarrassed but of course we do anyway. Personally, I have a tendency to get wrong knowledge stuck in my head. Case in point: The Dardanelles, which as you probably know is a strategically significant strait and part of the body of water that seperates Anatolia from the Balkans. When I first heard mention of the Dardanelles reading military history, it came without much context, and I simply assumed, that the Dardanelles was a mountian range in Turkey, because the name sounded kinda like what you'd call a mountain range. Even after learning the truth, and actually traveling through the Dardanelles myself, whenever I hear the name I immediately think of mountains and not the sea. Edited January 23, 2017 by Finkeren 1
unreasonable Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Probably because it looks like a plural, like the Alps or Rockies, although it is not really.
Feathered_IV Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 It always made me think how painful it would be - getting shot in the Dardanelles.
Finkeren Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 It always made me think how painful it would be - getting shot in the Dardanelles. Well in the late Middle Ages, the Turks built one of the World's biggest cannon specifically to shoot people in the Dardanelles - or maybe it was named that way, because you had to have seriously big Dardanelles to actually fire the damn thing? I forget... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardanelles_Gun Thanks BTW. From now on I definitely won't be thinking of mountains anymore, when I hear the word "Dardanelles".
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