darron1117 Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 Was hoping someone could help me out. During game play, as I turn and maneuver my game will stutter and for a second it looks like one of those fights scenes from The Matrix. Suddenly my plane will drop and crash. I use a joystick but the mouse is delayed quite a bit also making it hard to use the cursor. It then hesitates taking me back to menu. My desktop is sort of old(6 years). HP Pavillion P1010 and has 8gb ram. Just installed evga geforce gtx 1050ti superclocked card. Could it be that my pc is too outdated? Il2 Cliffs of Dover plays fine as well as Rise of Flight. The studdering didn't seem to start until after more of the game was downloaded and updated. Thanks,
Dutchvdm Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 Hi Darron, Which OS are you using? W7 or W10? It might be that you're DX11 drivers are not up to date. I would think that your hardware should be able to run Il-2. Grt M What are you running for a CPU? I googled the HP machine and got this. AMD Athlon II X4 645 I'm not really into AMD CPU's but with a clockspeed of 3.1 ghz it should be able to run ok. Il-2 in it's current state isn't that much more demanding than ROF. Grt M
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Hi Darron, Which OS are you using? W7 or W10? It might be that you're DX11 drivers are not up to date. I would think that your hardware should be able to run Il-2. Grt M I googled the HP machine and got this. AMD Athlon II X4 645 I'm not really into AMD CPU's but with a clockspeed of 3.1 ghz it should be able to run ok. Il-2 in it's current state isn't that much more demanding than ROF. Grt M To be fair, clock speed isn't everything. That specific CPU has horrible single core performance and since (to my knowledge) IL-2 has yet to be multithreaded, this could certainly be the bottleneck. An i5 2400 at stock speeds is almost twice as fast in many scenarios. A i3 2100 is equally as fast in multi-core performance but beats the AMD chip in single core performance. Edited January 19, 2017 by 4./JG52_Space_Ghost
=TBAS=Sshadow14 Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 Just dont take core performance and stats from toms hardware or any of their affiliates as any sort of actual truth or usable infoThey are Owned by Intel and are frauds both in cpu reviews and accuracy of "scientific tests"
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 Just dont take core performance and stats from toms hardware or any of their affiliates as any sort of actual truth or usable info They are Owned by Intel and are frauds both in cpu reviews and accuracy of "scientific tests" I'm a systems administrator. My profession entails me making high-dollar hardware purchasing decisions for a non-profit. I know hardware. Although I find your accusations a bit silly, I'm perfectly capable of forming my own objective opinions based on experience. 1
Dutchvdm Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 As said, i'm not into AMD CPU's so it might well be that it's not up to snuff. I'm not going to argue about that . Things that are worth checking out. - 1. If you're using Windows 7, you must have this Microsoft update installed for the sim to function correctly in DirectX 11 mode: https://support.micr...n-us/kb/2670838 This is from the release notes on 2.006. After that lower graphics settings and test if that helps. Grt M
Dakpilot Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 I would imagine that CPU will not be enough to give the benefits of a new 1050Ti although I do understand people's option are often limited, it is generally not a good idea to pair tech which has 7(+) year gap,(which in computer world can sometimes be a very long time) decent balance of a system is always best of course there are always some exceptions, but not in this case, AMD Athlon II X4 645, Cheers Dakpilot
150GCT_Veltro Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) i7 4770 16 GB DDR 3 Nvidia GTX 760 2GB MB Intel H87MC W10 64 Microsoft FFB2 Stuttering (Berloga), freeze (DED SERVER), CTD (Berloga - DED SERVER), PC reboot with BoS (DED SERVER), "light" blue W10 screen (Berloga). It's never happen before. There is somenthing broken with the last DX11 update. FPS 60. Edited January 19, 2017 by 150GCT_Veltro
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 i7 4770 16 GB DDR 3 Nvidia GTX 760 2GB MB Intel H87MC W10 64 Microsoft FFB2 Stuttering (Berloga), freeze (DED SERVER), CTD (Berloga - DED SERVER), PC reboot with BoS (DED SERVER), "light" blue W10 screen (Berloga). It's never happen before. There is somenthing broken with the last DX11 update. FPS 60. I disagree because it's not happening for the majority of users. Sure, something broke on your end but the game isn't broken for everybody.
150GCT_Veltro Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) I don't think so, but i've updated my system as weel even if just for DCS and not for BoS, considering i've never had these problems before 2.006 with BoS. I've tested everithing: W7 64 to W10 64, clear Nvidia drivers and install the old version (GTX780 drivers), change most of the Nvidia options, update the bios, open the case and removing all the dust, update Realtek, check temperature ecc. ecc....and i've never have a CTD before 2.006, if not sometimes on Berloga after many times of extreme dogfight. I've also removed HDR, Grass distance, ecc. ecc. Now i've heavy freeze also with AI speaking for ex, without considering the server messages (FPS from 60 to 15). Probably my MB Intel is really poor...may be....Intel H87MC Edited January 19, 2017 by 150GCT_Veltro
Dutchvdm Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 I don't think so, but i've updated my system as weel even if just for DCS and not for BoS, considering i've never had these problems before 2.006 with BoS. Are the problems limited to MP? Grt M
150GCT_Veltro Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Yes, of course. Only Multiplayer...but....at least for the stuttering, i've tested on Berloga with and without Microsoft FFB2: wihout FFB2 everything was fine (really smooth), with extreme furball (60FPS). When new system will be ready, i could say if FFB2 is the problem or not for the stuttering. Edited January 19, 2017 by 150GCT_Veltro
EAF_51_FOX Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 Yes, of course. Only Multiplayer...but....at least for the stuttering, i've tested on Berloga with and without Microsoft FFB2: wihout FFB2 everything was fine (really smooth), with extreme furball (60FPS). When new system will be ready, i could say if FFB2 is the problem or not for the stuttering. this is a issue for many FFB+track-ir/opentrack user.. me too,,
=TBAS=Sshadow14 Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) I'm a systems administrator. My profession entails me making high-dollar hardware purchasing decisions for a non-profit. I know hardware. Although I find your accusations a bit silly, I'm perfectly capable of forming my own objective opinions based on experience. all good.. and not an accusation its a well known fact that was leaked a couple years back. Just like Wheels.com is owned by VW/BMW (hence why they voted VW car of the year during Diesel gate scandal when they killed hundred of people) AS for the OP.. Here is something that might help, Specially with crashing multiplayer servers. In your IL2 game folder goto IL2 sturmovik folder/Data/Multiplayer and move or backup everything EXCEPT. "DServer_dogfight_default_config.sds" This will get rid of those old outdated and corrupted Multiplayer files. (i now do this every couple days) after i could not connect to WoL it kept crashing, i deleted these files and instant fix) Edited January 20, 2017 by =r4t=Sshadow14
69th_chuter Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 Your motherboard has a PCIe 2 graphics slot instead of a PCIe 3 which your new graphics card is designed for. The total bandwidth and throughput are significantly improved as well as having vastly reduced bandwidth overhead in the PCIe 3 standard which means, in my experience with a somewhat older graphics card and 32 bit BoS, you will see a lower maximum framerate than what would otherwise be possible and likely see some stuttering at times depending on image complexity although these issues may be worse with a newer card. There shouldn't be too much of an issue with the CPU, it exceeds minimums ... unless BoS uses SSSE3, then you might hurt from that, but I have no idea.
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 In your IL2 game folder goto IL2 sturmovik folder/Data/Multiplayer and move or backup everything EXCEPT. "DServer_dogfight_default_config.sds" This will get rid of those old outdated and corrupted Multiplayer files. (i now do this every couple days) after i could not connect to WoL it kept crashing, i deleted these files and instant fix) This deleting files from dogfight folder is rearly needed when mission designer change something inside mission files and do not change the name of new version then you have older version with same name on local drive and game do not download it or files were corrupted during transfer to yours machnie or on yours HD.
III/JG52_Necro_v Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 i7 4770 16 GB DDR 3 Nvidia GTX 760 2GB MB Intel H87MC W10 64 Microsoft FFB2 Stuttering (Berloga), freeze (DED SERVER), CTD (Berloga - DED SERVER), PC reboot with BoS (DED SERVER), "light" blue W10 screen (Berloga). It's never happen before. There is somenthing broken with the last DX11 update. FPS 60. Your Stutters may be occasioned because use FFB and Trackir. It´s a old problem that many people (me too) has after patch dx11 (I´d got always ). Try disable FFB effects. If Stutters dissapears, you´ll be one more with this problem .
EAF_51_FOX Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) ..still waiting some news from developers ..if any news about this problem FFB + TRACK IR CONFLICT/DX 11 will be discussed here from developers. Ok, just a head up: I've changed "CAMERA SMOOTING" setting in Menu game to 90" value and now game is quite smooth in rendering. Edited January 23, 2017 by EAF_51_FOX
150GCT_Veltro Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) Your Stutters may be occasioned because use FFB and Trackir. It´s a old problem that many people (me too) has after patch dx11 (I´d got always ). Try disable FFB effects. If Stutters dissapears, you´ll be one more with this problem . Yes i can connfirm. Berloga test with massive dogfight, FFB Microsoft plugged but disabled: smooth wihout stuttering. I've now also micro freeze because of radio chatters and server message but this is something different. 60 FPS almost everytime but micro freeze and stuttering are really very boring and irritating, as for the multiple CTD i've never had before the 2.006 update. Edited January 24, 2017 by 150GCT_Veltro
III/JG52_Necro_v Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) ..still waiting some news from developers ..if any news about this problem FFB + TRACK IR CONFLICT/DX 11 will be discussed here from developers. Ok, just a head up: I've changed "CAMERA SMOOTING" setting in Menu game to 90" value and now game is quite smooth in rendering. I always had this Stutters (from Rise of Flight). Other sims like DCS works perfect (without stutters). Edited January 24, 2017 by Necro_v
=TBAS=Sshadow14 Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 also on a side note..IL2 is defo multi core..FX-8350 @ 4.2ghz hereGame loads 4 cores upto 45-60% each in MP on ULTRA(tho its silly and game uses cores 0,1,2,3 instead of my cores 0,2,4,6
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