Need a new throttle

[Taxman]

My Warhog throttle stopped working.  I have tried all of Thrustmaster fixes but it is the throttle that has stopped working, wiring problem I do believe but I am not going to open it up.  I did contact Thrustmaster's help desk ran the tests and all points to a wiring problem, bought it around May of 2013.  Started acting up around 4 weeks ago and just stopped working about a week ago.  BTW the stick works just fine.

 

What is good recommendation for a replacement throttle with out having to buy a full hotas system?

 

Thanks

Edited January 13, 2017 by Taxman

[Sokol1]

No much option, the only stand alone throttle available from other brands on market is CH PRO Throttle with their 1990's look and tech, is 1 axis and their mini-stick has no use for propeller planes, and the quadrant from CH and Saitek (if still in production under Logitech).

 

VKB already teaser a throttle that looks more interesting for WWII planes than "F-16'ish" and "A-10'ish" throttles, but as always VKB availability is for "two weeks, be sure"™.

 

http://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-throttle-quadrant

 

Anyway, Warthog throttle is available standalone. 

Edited January 13, 2017 by Sokol1

[dburne]

Well techically the Warthog Throttle is available as a stand alone unit as well, but with what happened I am sure he has probably ruled that one out.

[Taxman]

Thanks Sokol1 and Don.

 

Looked at the vkbcontroller, but that is still in development, at least "two weeks, for sure+"

 

I am going to take the Warthog Throttle apart and look at it, what is there to lose at this time.  Like I posted earlier I did all the tests and it is a wiring problem. There is another Thrustmaster throttle for around US $80.00 but the reviews are mixed.  

 

I just may get another Warthog Throttle, Sokol1 thanks for links, like a good friend of ours said, "if you have it money will fix just about any thing".

[Sokol1]

Yes, I forget this new TWCS, looks a good option, although 3 of their 4 extra axis, the mini-stick and "pad'" is not practical to use in propeller planes. 

[Lusekofte]

This guy selling Throttles in SimHq, but you need to register to see it. Throttles

It seems he had some at sales a while back , and he make them for sale

[Taxman]

Well I did take the Warthog throttle and opened up the bottom plate for a look see.  Followed Thrustmasters instructions on looking for problems, I could not find any, and it was not recognized by my computer.  Again it messed up my internet connection, need to reinstall the drivers, what this all leads to is a wiring problem.  What a cf.

 

Any how my chose's are buy a new throttle, am looking a another Warthog, or CH Pro Throttle or ?.  Ideas Thanks.

 

LusseKofte thanks but not for me.

 

PS I will email Thrustmasters support also, they might replace but I am not going to hold my breath. 

[KpaxBos]

Hello,

 

I use CH-Throttle + Quadrant. for years now. I am waiting for the new throttles (more than 8bits resolution).

 

A solution  if you can wait for the new announced throttle (vkb,virpil) :

one CH throttle : ~130$

if you want more than one throttle axis : one quadrant : ~110$ .

 

Warthog throttle = 250$.

 

With this CH setup (known quality devices) you are ready to wait for the new products. An can still use them with the new setup.

 

Just my ideas.

 

Good luck in your search :-)

[Matt]

I heard of some people with similar problems that replacing the PCB helped. Replacing is not too hard, though you have to get rid of some hot glue afaik. Costs was around 50 EUR i believe, would have to ask TM support.

 

Of course there's no guarrentee that it will fix the problem for your, but compared to the price of a new Warthog throttle, it might be worth the risk.

[Beazil]

Can you send it back for repair? My first stick snapped and I had to send it in.

[Taxman]

Can you send it back for repair? My first stick snapped and I had to send it in.

Right now I am waiting for Thurstmaster to reply to my latest email.  As I cannot find the original invoice I don't think there is a chance that they will replace it.

[ShamrockOneFive]

If you can hold out for a while (we don't have a firm ETA)... that new throttle system from VKB will surely be interesting especially as a WWII pilot.

[oneeyeddog]

I use this throttle made by GVL224, as mentioned by LuseKofte, above. This throttle is built from quality components and you can have it built to just about any configuration you want. GVL224 was a good Guy to deal with and the price was very reasonable.

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4146346/Iron_mechanic_motor_control_(a#Post4146346

[Taxman]

Thanks oneeyeddog, I may not rule out GVL.

 

Tomorrow I am going to take the throttle into my office plug into a computer there and check it out  as suggested on another site.  Also I can also take to my tech guy and have him check it out, and he also has the tools to check if there is a short in the wiring.

[sinned]

Thanks oneeyeddog, I may not rule out GVL.

 

Tomorrow I am going to take the throttle into my office plug into a computer there and check it out as suggested on another site. Also I can also take to my tech guy and have him check it out, and he also has the tools to check if there is a short in the wiring.

You work at a nice company... Able to bring a throttle and have and IT guy to take a look.

That would be considered as a serious violation of compliance rule at my work - "personal use of company's asset". Compliance team will go nuts.

[Taxman]

You work at a nice company... Able to bring a throttle and have and IT guy to take a look.

That would be considered as a serious violation of compliance rule at my work - "personal use of company's asset". Compliance team will go nuts.

sinned, I do not have that problem as I own the company 100%.   

 

Quick update the throttle is doa.  Plugged into another computer d/l the latest drives and tried to get it up and going, no go.

 

Time to start looking.

[Sokol1]

TMW throttle PCB dead is a relative common occurrence, dozen of cases listed there:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=66542

 

Due lack of options in the market, replace the PCB is not bad idea - if cost the mentioned ~50 Euros.

[Taxman]

Thanks Soko1, 

 

I followed the link and another.  I am going to give one more try.  I did find out that in my Hotas drives are not showing up correctly in the Human Interface Devices, even though the stick works.  

 

I am re reading all the Bootloader method from Thurstmaster.  What I am afraid of is that I might lose the Warthog stick usage.  I do have an old F-16 Combatstick as a back up.  I may wait until this weekend when I will have more time and take the time to do it properly.

[Taxman]

Another update.  Received an email from Thurstmaster  that basically says it the Main PCB inside the throttle is the problem, however not a guarantee 100% fix.  Also they state that many have had this issue and replacing the PCB fixed the problem.  Not being knowledgeable on how replace such items it will be a new throttle.  As my partner said "If money is not an issues most problems can be fixed' in this case she is right.

 

Thanks all for your help,

[dburne]

I had my original Warthog since just shortly after it was released.

My throttle went bad the same way about 11 months ago.

 

As there was nothing on the market at the time that appealed to me more, I did not hesitate and ordered another Warthog throttle. 

Perhaps this will change once VKB and/or Virpil get their throttle products to market, no telling when that might be though.

[Sokol1]

Another update.  Received an email from Thurstmaster  that basically says it the Main PCB inside the throttle is the problem, however not a guarantee 100% fix.  Also they state that many have had this issue and replacing the PCB fixed the problem.  Not being knowledgeable on how replace such items it will be a new throttle.  As my partner said "If money is not an issues most problems can be fixed' in this case she is right.

 

 

 

You can sell this defective throttle on eBay - just specify the issue. People buy for fix or MOD.