Announcing Project VPC MongoosT-50

[Avyx]

what about this one, guys ?

any news ?

it looks fantastic.

 

[VIRPILControls]

what about this one, guys ?

any news ?

it looks fantastic.

 

Check out our VPC MongoosT-50 Throttle announcement thread!

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/31723-introducing-vpc-mongoost-50-throttle/

► Introducing the VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip

 

Today VIRPIL Controls are pleased to introduce the next evolution of the VPC MongoosT-50 Grip, the MongoosT-50CM (Серийная модернизированная / “Standard Upgraded”) Grip.

 

 

This grip aims to more accurately replicate the look and feel of the real grip based on suggestions we’ve received from the community. Changes include:

• Russian Button Labels
• Remodelled Brake Lever
• Remodelled Flip Trigger
• Remodelled Buttons
• Black Hats, Main Trigger and Wrist Rest

The VPC MongoosT-50CM will be available for 179.95 EUR from 30th October.

 

Other changes in the VPC MongoosT-50 Grip lineup based on popular demand is that we will also begin offering a left hand VPC MongoosT-50 LH Black Edition also from 30th October.

 

Finally, there will also be a price drop on the standard VPC MongoosT-50 Grip to 139.95 EUR!

 

Stay tuned for future announcements!

 

Regards,

VPC Team

[dburne]

• Remodelled Brake Lever
• Remodelled Flip Trigger
• Remodelled Buttons

Can you elaborate on the above?

Remodeled in what way?

[Jade_Monkey]

Too soon? Some people just got their sticks and there is already an improved version out?

[VIRPILControls]

 

• Remodelled Brake Lever
• Remodelled Flip Trigger
• Remodelled Buttons

Can you elaborate on the above?

Remodeled in what way?

 

 

Slightly different shapes - it's a new style, functionally everything is the same. 

 

 

Too soon? Some people just got their sticks and there is already an improved version out?

 

People have been receiving their sticks since July - by this logic we would never be able to release new products! It's not "improved" per-se, it's just a style change (based on community requests) much like the Black Edition which came out after the standard grip based on community demand. 

 

If the community tells us they want something, we'll do our best to get it out there! 

Edited October 20, 2017 by VIRPILControls

[Jade_Monkey]

Nothing against innovating and improving the product, which btw looks great.

 

However, as someone who is very interested in your throttle, now i wonder if i should not preorder and wait for the upgraded version just a few months after. I hope you understand this from the customer's perspective.

[VIRPILControls]

Nothing against innovating and improving the product, which btw looks great.

 

However, as someone who is very interested in your throttle, now i wonder if i should not preorder and wait for the upgraded version just a few months after. I hope you understand this from the customer's perspective.

 

Ah, I see what you're saying! 

 

However, we have been discussing the VPC MongoosT-50 Throttle design for a long time with the community - there will be the 4-way hat + push variant and the analog ministick variants - we believe we have accounted for the vast majority requests already! 

Edited October 20, 2017 by VIRPILControls

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Is the standard version still available?

 

Eventually I'll need a new stick and the Mongoose is near the top of the list but I'm not interested in purchasing something covered in cyrillic.

[VIRPILControls]

Is the standard version still available?

 

Eventually I'll need a new stick and the Mongoose is near the top of the list but I'm not interested in purchasing something covered in cyrillic.

 

Absolutely! The VPC MongoosT-50 Standard Grip will remain in our product lineup. 

[Lusekofte]

Personally I like the cryllic, I assign my buttons after my own taste anyway, so it would be a nusiance if I assigned a button for something and it was tagged another function. 

I like your grip but I already have a good base, well done

Edited October 20, 2017 by 216th_LuseKofte

[Sokol1]

The black and cyrilic's improved the look very nice.

 

Can post a picture of trigger shape, looks more width.

[VIRPILControls]

The black and cyrilic's improved the look very nice.

 

Can post a picture of trigger shape, looks more width.

 

Thanks Sokol!

 

The flip-trigger has indeed been widened, these are the only other photo's I have on hand right now:

 

[Sokol1]

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_10_2017/post-72841-0-99883300-1508491929.jpg

 

[dburne]

Cyph3r,

 

Question for you on the upcoming software for the T-50.

 

Will it allow one to go in and assign a button on the stick, to act as a modifier button? And if so, is this embedded in the firmware or would it be reliant on a program running within the software?

 

What I mean by this, say I want to assign the pinky button on my grip, to behave as a modifier in this fashion. So when I hold the pinky button in and press another joystick button whilst it is held in, it sees it as a different button press that can be assigned within the game. By doing so it would expand the number of commands in BoS one could assign to buttons on the stick.

 

That is a feature I so wish BoS supported but it does not, and would be nice if it could be done utilizing the software?

[VIRPILControls]

Cyph3r,

 

Question for you on the upcoming software for the T-50.

 

Will it allow one to go in and assign a button on the stick, to act as a modifier button? And if so, is this embedded in the firmware or would it be reliant on a program running within the software?

 

What I mean by this, say I want to assign the pinky button on my grip, to behave as a modifier in this fashion. So when I hold the pinky button in and press another joystick button whilst it is held in, it sees it as a different button press that can be assigned within the game. By doing so it would expand the number of commands in BoS one could assign to buttons on the stick.

 

That is a feature I so wish BoS supported but it does not, and would be nice if it could be done utilizing the software?

 

Hi dburne,

 

Yes, our software can easily create shift states through any button that you want - and it is saved to the firmware so you won't need our software constantly running

[dburne]

Hi dburne,

 

Yes, our software can easily create shift states through any button that you want - and it is saved to the firmware so you won't need our software constantly running

 

 

 

Awesome, I will make good use of that thanks!

[Sokol1]

Dburne

 

Until ViPil soft don't came, use Joy2key and set the T50 joy "pinky" button as "shift" in this way:

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/30538-setting-shift-button-t-flight-hotas-x/?do=findComment&comment=498360

 

The "pinky" button will press the "Shift" key (or any other windows modifier, Ctrl, Shift, Win).

 

Or can use "profiles" (called joystick#) and in each you set the button(s), e.g button 1 to press different keys or combo, and the "pinky" will cycle between "joystick#", what can be momentarily or sequential.

 

Other option for set "pink" button is use SVMapper:

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/30538-setting-shift-button-t-flight-hotas-x/?do=findComment&comment=498166

 

Both soft is simple and easy to use, take few resources from Windows, can be started after the game (if this support Alt+tab), can be reconfigured "on the fly".

 

There's 3rd party soft more "advanced" (with features similar to Target, Manager) like Joystick Gremlin, but more complicated to set and for most cases is just "use a elephant to do a ant job".

Edited October 26, 2017 by Sokol1

[dburne]

Dburne

 

Until ViPil soft don't came, use Joy2key and set the T50 joy "pinky" button as "shift" in this way:

 

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/30538-setting-shift-button-t-flight-hotas-x/?do=findComment&comment=498360

 

The "pinky" button will press the "Shift" key (or any other windows modifier, Ctrl, Shift, Win).

 

 

Great I may give a try, thanks for the info!

[Daff]

Where will the analog mini stick for the the throttle be located? I think the best location would be on the side for thumb use.

[Sokol1]

Seems not defined, some "jet" pilots want mini-stick in index finger to "be realistic", but "kosmosima" pilots want in thumb finger for spaceship 6DOF control.

The ideal is be modular, swappable between this two positions, "Greek and Trojans" pleased.

 

BTW - The last throttle render, now with "mode" selector - in place an ON-OFF switch.

 

Edited November 4, 2017 by Sokol1

[Blutaar]

Seems not defined, some "jet" pilots want mini-stick in index finger to "be realistic", but "kosmosima" pilots want in thumb finger for spaceship 6DOF control.

 

Most users have asked for the stick to be under the thumb so that's what we're looking at doing.

 

Qouted from another thread! Best would be two ministicks and the rest just 4way hats with pushbutton in my opinion, no 2 way hats. But i take it anyway.

Edited November 5, 2017 by Ishtaru

[Archie]

Any news on when these will be coming back into stock on Amazon for Europe?

[VIRPILControls]

Any news on when these will be coming back into stock on Amazon for Europe?

 

Hopefully shipping out new stock to our EU warehouse next week

[dburne]

Hey Cyph3r,

 

Any ETA yet on the software for the T-50?

 

Thanks,

[Matt]

Now with the mode selector switch on the throttle, it's almost a must-buy for me. And if i wouldn't have bought the Gladiator earlier, i would've ordered the T-50 stick by now. Great job on both designs and incredible progress you made in such short amount of time.

[dburne]

Now with the mode selector switch on the throttle, it's almost a must-buy for me. And if i wouldn't have bought the Gladiator earlier, i would've ordered the T-50 stick by now. Great job on both designs and incredible progress you made in such short amount of time.

 

There is no telling how many hours I have now on my T-50 stick, it is incredible and I absolutely love it.

And I am so looking forward to that throttle.

[MiK684]

I ordered one for myself, as an early xmas present, today. Your reviews,comments and the one of a Squadmate accelrated my decision 

Looking forward to fly with it, replacing my Ms FFB2 and ending a decade of FFB flying 

 

The Throttle Unit looks promising aswell, so if i am convinced by the stick , its a no-brainer 

 

Cheers MiK

[dburne]

I ordered one for myself, as an early xmas present, today. Your reviews,comments and the one of a Squadmate accelrated my decision 

Looking forward to fly with it, replacing my Ms FFB2 and ending a decade of FFB flying 

 

The Throttle Unit looks promising aswell, so if i am convinced by the stick , its a no-brainer 

 

Cheers MiK

 

 

 

Congrats you are in for a treat!

[Sokol1]

Seems that for one who want a "jet" throttle but for use too in "WWII" this VirPil/VPC T50 will be the better package (at least for now)  - (IMO) primarily for "WWI"I GVL224 or Kantori custom throttles with more levers result more functional.

 

 

https://virpil.by/images/stories/virtuemart/product/MT-50_Throttle_05.jpg

 

 

This lever at right of grips is an axis with the same contactless sensor for two throttle axes, conveniente for propeller pitch control in some planes.

Has two extra axis with knobs plus 3 encoders with center click = trim "on rotaries" in Bo'X.

The first version of this throttle has no "mini/thumb-stick" - that for WWII has little/no use, but HAT in the place.
With the mode switch the buttons and switches can handle all functions of WWII planes.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Sokol1

[Irgendjemand]

The analog thumb is a must have for me since its the ideal tool to set shieldenergy and such in Star Citizen.

Is known how long the delay will be till the "thumbstickversion" will later available after the other one?

Edited November 9, 2017 by Irgendjemand

[Blutaar]

The analog thumb is a must have for me...

 

Same for me, even if i fly with ww2 stuff it could be used as an 4 way hat with some software if needed. So no reason for me to get one without the ministick. Like i said earlier, i would like to have two ministick on that throttle, one for the indexfinger and one for the thumb, the rest should be buttons and 4 way hats. I saw a mod someone did on his cougar throttle with two analog sticks, so awesome but much stuff needed and it looked kind of complicated. An option if there will be no minsitck version of the VPC throttle.

 

But when can we expect the ministick version of the throttle, any estimate?

Edited November 9, 2017 by Ishtaru

[Jade_Monkey]

Seems that for one who want a "jet" throttle but for use too in "WWII" this VirPil/VPC T50 will be the better package (at least for now) - (IMO) primarily for "WWI"I GVL224 or Kantori custom throttles with more levers result more functional.

 

 

https://virpil.by/images/stories/virtuemart/product/MT-50_Throttle_05.jpg

 

 

This lever at right of grips is an axis with the same contactless sensor for two throttle axes, conveniente for propeller pitch control in some planes.

Has two extra axis with knobs plus 3 encoders with center click = trim "on rotaries" in Bo'X.

The first version of this throttle has no "mini/thumb-stick" - that for WWII has little/no use, but HAT in the place.

With the mode switch the buttons and switches can handle all functions of WWII planes.

Drool

[blitze]

Drool

+1 ))

[dburne]

Cyph3r,

 

Any news or ETA on the software?

[VIRPILControls]

Cyph3r,

 

Any news or ETA on the software?

Not yet!

 

Is there something in particular you need the software for?

[dburne]

Not yet!

 

Is there something in particular you need the software for?

 

Main reason I would like to have it, in this sim one cannot assign a button as a press and hold modifier, therefore limited to what all I can assign to individual buttons.

 

What I mean by this, to give an example, say I want my trigger to fire machine guns and cannons individually. I could have it fire machine guns, then if I hold in a button I assign as modifier and depress trigger whilst holding that button, then it fires cannons.

 

It would extend the number of commands I could assign to individual button presses. At least as I understand the software would give this ability.

 

I am in no big rush as obviously I am getting along fine as is, but would certainly like that ability and if the software does that then all the better.

I know there are other third party software out there I could grab and use to accomplish this, but would just as soon use your software if it is coming.

 

Thanks,

[Sokol1]

It would extend the number of commands I could assign to individual button presses. At least as I understand the software would give this ability.

 

 

In MMjoy2 firmware made by MegaMOZG, the guy that did VirPil electronics is possible set a button as "shift" for other buttons in firmware - don't need a software running in background like other joysticks. Maybe is good idea VirPil add this in T50 firmware.

[No_85_Gramps]

I am considering ordering the VPC MongoosT-50 Flightstick and the web store indicates they are in stock and delivery could take 5-14 days, however, on another forum it was indicated that it is actually 2 to 3 weeks before shipment. So if I do order one, when can I realistically expect it to be shipped? 

[VIRPILControls]

I am considering ordering the VPC MongoosT-50 Flightstick and the web store indicates they are in stock and delivery could take 5-14 days, however, on another forum it was indicated that it is actually 2 to 3 weeks before shipment. So if I do order one, when can I realistically expect it to be shipped? 

 

EMS Delivery estimates usually fall between 5-14 days for most countries. However if you look at the bottom of the product page description:

 

Processing of the order (packing, customs clearance and dispatch) takes 10-14 working days.

 

 

I hope this clears everything up!

[No_85_Gramps]

 

 

I hope this clears everything up!

Yes, thank you!