39 inch 1440p display?

[Sim]

I currently use old 32 inch LCD TV for gaming and it kind of works great as a large display monitor (at 1080p). I can't really get back to anything smaller and was eyeing a new LED TV when I spotted this:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-Digital-SE39UY04-39-Inch-Ultra/dp/B00DOPGO2G

 

Glorious and cheap 

 

You can only run 4k resolution with 30hz refresh rate due to HDMI 1.4 limitations, but 4k for gaming is not going to work anyway (due to insane amount of GPU horsepower required). But apparently what this monitor can also do is:

 

2560x1440 @ 60hz
1920x1080 @ 120hz

 

2560x1440 at 60hz and 39 inch panel should be.. amazing.

 

Looking to order one in Europe, but it looks like they are only US based? I mean the customs and shipping will almost double that price :/

 

What are your thoughts? From my experience, 32 inch at 1080p with at least 2x/4x anti-aliasing looks fine.

Edited December 1, 2013 by Sim

[Pierre64]

I use a 27" Dell @ 2560x1440 with a Nvidia 570 (to be replaced by a 770 asap).

Very nice for flight simulations (RoF and BoS... I mean next Friday )

[FuriousMeow]

I can't imagine this being great.

 

I have a Yamakasi 30" Sparta, which is terrible because it has an annoying stutter/hitching which is not present when I use my older 37" Vizio LCD TV - but the Vizio is only 1920x1080 and has very large DPP, and this Sparta has very fine DPP capable of resolutions up to 2560x1600 with refresh of 60Hz. I paid the same amount for this monitor as that Seiki TV costs, and these Yamakasi monitors are basically the same parts as other higher priced models sold as US brands (running up to $1500). The pixels size is great with this monitor, and at the native resolution (2560x1600) it's very sharp and when using SweetFX SMAA - the "jaggies" are virtually gone. Maybe a few here or there, but nothing incredibly discernable.

 

So since this is a TV, I'm going to imagine the pixel sizes are going to be quite large so that even at higher resolutions it's going to not be quite sufficient and produce a blurry/pixelated image.

 

I'd love to be wrong, and if so I will happily purchase one of those TV/monitors because the stutter/hitching with this monitor is killing me in air combat titles. Alternatively, I am hoping for Occulas Rift to come out that hopefully does a resolution higher than 1920x1080 next year so I won't have to spend money to replace this turd of a monitor.

 

EDIT: And it appears to be only HDMI inputs, which means that even at 2560x1600 there isn't enough data throughput to run that. Unless it has DVI-D, that thing is a no-go for anything above 1920x1080.

Edited December 1, 2013 by FuriousMeow

[Emgy]

Sim I'm just curious, how far away from the screen do you sit?

[Sim]

EDIT: And it appears to be only HDMI inputs, which means that even at 2560x1600 there isn't enough data throughput to run that. Unless it has DVI-D, that thing is a no-go for anything above 1920x1080.

 

I think it's HDMI 1.4, so it can do 3840 x 2160 at 30hz. But 30hz is hardly practical. I am mostly interested in 2560x1440. I read some reviews that this screen can run 1440p at 60hz.

 

To put it into perspective:

 

1080p at 32'': 68.84 ppi

1440p at 39'': 75.31 ppi

 

Even larger screen, even smaller pixels

 

Although since 1440p is not a native resolution of this panel (and not a power of two as 1080p is to 4K) I am wondering how that up-scaling works and if there is any blurring.

 

 

Sim I'm just curious, how far away from the screen do you sit?

 

I would say at least around 1 meter away. As mentioned, I find 32'' to be perfect screen size for gaming at that distance, yet a higher resolution (and hence DPI) would not hurt.. But no one is interested in making 32+ inch TVs or monitors with higher resolution than 1080p.. The drive for 4K could finally change that.

Edited December 1, 2013 by Sim

[FuriousMeow]

I don't think it'll do anything above 1920x1080 at 60Hz.

 

HDMI 1.4a has insufficient bandwidth for me to run 2560x1600 on my Yamakasi (Yamakash*t) 30" monitor.

 

Everywhere I've read has indicated that HDMI 1.4a doesn't have adequate bandwidth for anything above 1080p for gaming, and in order to get above 1080p for gaming you'd need dual link DVI.

 

But I don't know, now that I'm looking it up again it seems some are capable of getting the bandwidth needed for high refresh rate above 1080p using HDMI 1.4a.

Edited December 2, 2013 by FuriousMeow

[mondog]

2560x1440 still requires quite allot of graphics power. Anything in that range requires lots of vram.

[72sq_Savinio]

I play on a IIlyama 27" 2560*1440 with a GTX 780 3gb at full details, it's simply amazing. I had a little bit of stuttering, but with vsync activate it disappear.

 

Sorry for my "spaghetti" english.    

[Sim]

Well, the mentioned TV is no longer on sale. Still, a 4k 39'' panel for $500 was a steal..

 

I guess it's best to hold on a new monitor right now.. considering the Oculus Rift and G-SYNC and the next batch of affordable 4K monitors are just around the corner..

[racingslippers]

There's this as well for those that value smoothness of moving image which isnt dependant on Gsync

 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/eizo_fg2421.htm

 

 

A Gsync Rift would be nice though.

Edited December 3, 2013 by Mayfields

[=AH=_Sid_]

.........  but 4k for gaming is not going to work anyway (due to insane amount of GPU horsepower required). .............

 

Depends on your setup, 4K Ultra high definition television is still only 3840 × 2160 (8.3 megapixels), I'm running both ROF & BOS at 5160 x 2560  (13.2 megapixels) and holding 60fps most of the time.

 

The main thing you have to worry about with TVs for computer gaming is the Input Lag.

[Grifter]

I'd say the main issue is finding a videocard setup that will push that many pixels fast enough to play anything more than at slideshow speed. Even a current larger screen above 27" can be tough to make workable for our kind of applications. Can't imagine increasing the resolution in 4K is going to do anything but make it worse.

High prices and no videocards that match will keep 4K in the television-only realm for another few years I would think.

 

Personally I am looking forward to current resolution OLED technology long before I think about the jump to 4K.

[BigC208]

Dell is working on a 34 inch 21:9 Cinema Display with 3440x1440 Resolution. This could be a nice placeholder until those 40-50 inch, 4K TV's with displayports start going to market. Nice wide view for total immersion and no bezels.

Don't need a super expensive video card to run it either. Could've been a bit higher and wider (5040x1080) for me but i'll take one any way.

 

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/dell_working_on_219_cinema_display_with_3440x1440_resolution.html