Rogue One

[Boomerang]

Loved it! I'm not saying anymore now   

[Finkeren]

Going to see it the day after tomorrow.

 

I honestly didn't expect Disney to make SW exciting again, but they did fairly well with TFA and this looks even better.

[von_Tom]

 

It is excellent on many levels. Very very good.

 

And I'm not saying more than that either. If you're going to see it, avoid spoilers like the plague.

 

Von Tom

[Gambit21]

I know Star Wars very well - my wife doesn't.

Even though Rogue One is a prequel - will it do her any good to watch Episode IV before we see it tomorrow?

[Lusekofte]

My wife want to see this after christmas, so I guess I am going with her

[Finkeren]

I know Star Wars very well - my wife doesn't.

Even though Rogue One is a prequel - will it do her any good to watch Episode IV before we see it tomorrow?

 

It would make some sense, yeah, but be careful, it may break your heart.

 

A New Hope is 40 years old and viewed without nostalgia goggles, it really is quite campy and clunky. Be prepared for your wife to not enjoy it at all.

 

My wife really likes adventure movies of all kinds, but she just can't enjoy Star Wars, because she never saw it as a kid. 

[Gambit21]

She's seen it within the last few years, but doesn't remember details. So if you think it will help fill in gaps for her I'll whip it out tonight:)

[Finkeren]

If she's already seen it, then sure.

[Gambit21]

Will do - thanks

[Boomerang]

It would not really matter if other episodes where viewed first I think, as Rouge One is kind of like the fist piece of a bigger puzzle to date.

Wonder if Jason W has seen R O yet? I'm guessing he's a busy fellow, but it is Star Wars  

[II./JG77_Manu*]

I know Star Wars very well - my wife doesn't.

Even though Rogue One is a prequel - will it do her any good to watch Episode IV before we see it tomorrow?

 

I'd strongly suggest against watching Episode 4 before Rogue One. If you watch it attentively, you are pretty much spoiled, because you'll know pretty much everything that's gonna happen in Rogue One. I am quite into the Star Wars Universe, and knew pretty much anything that happened

meaning i knew that any significant person of Rogue One will die, just because they didn't appear in Episode 4. In addition i already knew they will steal the plans successfully, because that's where Episode 4 starts. And this is by all means the main story of this film.

 in this movie, so it wasn't really gripping for me, although it is a very good one. 

I think it's definitely a better first watch when you don't have a clue about what happens afterwards. Watching I-III before however is probably not too bad to get an idea about this universe and lore

[Finkeren]

Saw it tonight.

 

Didn't hate it. Pretty solidly entertaining, but by God Disney: Learn to write your characters consistently and cut down on the number of sidekicks!

 

 

Basically Diego Luna's character is one giant missed opportunity. That guy should have been a hardened killer, and he should have blown Mads Mikkelsen's head off, lied about it, have his actions exposed at a critical moment and redeem himself in the final act. That would've made his character make sense and would've given Felicity Jones a real conflict to act against. Instead we got a goody-two-shoes character that's pretty much just another bland sidekick in a movie filled with bland sidekicks.

 

 

The action was pretty good, the cgi-faces were horrible.

[150GCT_Veltro]

Very good movie, with stunning Stormtrooper fighting.

 

As said above is a prequel.

 

What a fu.king beauty! The classic Stormtrooper strike back.

Edited December 19, 2016 by 150GCT_Veltro

[Gambit21]

Really, REALLY liked it...but yeah the CG faces, while fine for a Squadron 42 cut scene, are not 'there' for cinematic purposes yet.

[Brano]

Just came home from the pub after watching this. Awesome movie. For me, much better then official Episode VII (TBH I dont recall much of its plot today). And K2 robot with his lines.. Hilarious! Excellent prequel to Episode IV.

[150GCT_Veltro]

Just came home from the pub after watching this. Awesome movie. For me, much better then official Episode VII (TBH I dont recall much of its plot today). And K2 robot with his lines.. Hilarious! Excellent prequel to Episode IV.

 

Yes, agree, and probably is the best Star Wars ever after the classic original trilogy.

 

A must to see for the Star Wars generation.

Edited December 20, 2016 by 150GCT_Veltro

[Brano]

  I like the way they made it more "down-to-earth" and not that classic sci-fi fairy tale like main episodes use to be. It also doesnt suffer much from classic "Episode X" syndrome where people always expect smtg better/greater/epic/breathtaking...Although visuals were really well made,planets and moons were yummy. As were battles in space brought more to the original trilogy standards.

  Being a prequal to Episode IV it built upon its own story while keeping main storyline and characters blend in. For old star wars farts like me it was clear how the story will end. I mean the result. But the film is not about it.It is a joyride of how we get to the end point.Ending itself is not as much important as the way to get there. And dialogues,although sometimes "compulsory pathetic" (rebelion,yeah,force is with us,yeah),were for most part well made and I had my portion of laugh and popcorn worth the money spent for the ticket.

  My only disappointment was character of Mads Mikkelsen. The role doesnt suit him at all. I thought he will be some bad-arse rebel character choping stormtroopers with viking axe 

Bring more! 

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

 I am still on the verge if going to see it. Just can't get over the "welcome to the rebellion, soldiers" part. Sounds like a My little pony version And have never liked the way Stormtroopers, who supposedly are highly trained soldiers and all, are just cannon fodder. I understand them being the "movie evil" but still..Maybe I just like the Empire more

[Brano]

Dont worry Flanker,rebels will get their arses kicked as well   I was really positively surprised by the movie. Frankly I didnt expect much of it before entering the cinema. It was like,oh well,another Xmas frenchise movie to kill time after spending hours in shopping center hunting for presents hehe. But seeing X-wings and Y-wings in good old hardcore laser pew-pew action + those 1970s uniforms revived...priceless 

[Gambit21]

Nice too that they look like real people in a real setting - not ol fat neck's "everyone fresh from makeup and wardrobe" in every scene. Most structures environments fresh and pristine.

 

They did seem to run out of time where applying texture maps to the Star Destroyers was concerned. I noticed this in the previews, and it hadn't changed for the release. Looked like a clean white model rendered before the texture stage. Very odd looking, and incongruous with the work done in the rest of the film.

Made them look like the models that they were. Very poor job there.

Edited December 20, 2016 by Gambit21

[Brano]

I dont know. They looked normal 'imperial whitish' to me...+ the colision model was cooool

[Gambit21]

Could be - but I can tell you that if I dragged straight white procedural texture with the reflectivity channel turned down onto the model, and hit render it would look just like that.

They've been much more convincing in every other film prior to this.

[Finkeren]

They did seem to run out of time where applying texture maps to the Star Destroyers was concerned. I noticed this in the previews, and it hadn't changed for the release. Looked like a clean white model rendered before the texture stage. Very odd looking, and incongruous with the work done in the rest of the film.

Made them look like the models that they were. Very poor job there.

I noticed this, but I honestly think it's an effort to more closely replicate the high contrast lighting in space.

[Feathered_IV]

Saw it tonight.

 

Didn't hate it. Pretty solidly entertaining, but by God Disney: Learn to write your characters consistently and cut down on the number of sidekicks!

 

 

Presumably the extra characters translate to extra profits in the lucrative toy franchises

[Dakpilot]

Oh yes   more than likely

 

Michael Bay is one of the richest movie directors, not because he makes good movies

 

but because he secured a decent percentage on the Transformers toy franchise

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Brano]

I was at a toystore yesterday picking some Xmas presents for kids and couldnt resist to buy myself a small figure of a stormtrooper. It hangs from my cars rear mirror now

Edited December 22, 2016 by Brano

[6./ZG26_Custard]

Possibly minor spoilers below. 

 

As a massive fan of the original Star Wars De-specialised movies, and a hater of the prequels, I am already boring of this franchise. While the film is an ok Sci fi romp its nothing special and the wow factor is sorely lacking.

 

The story is well paced and fairly dark but there are some glaring plot holes and as usual the Empire are portrayed as a bunch of numpties. The dissident off shoot “rebels” on the other hand have a decidedly “fundamentalist” look (I was thinking ok…..?) and the rebels are probably the most “diverse” bunch in the entire galaxy.

 

Jyn or Jyn and tonic as I will forever call her now (Very posh English actress like Daisy in the last one) was ok but not a stand out. The characters were not particularly interesting or well developed in general. Forest Whitaker character in particular was rather bizarre and not fleshed out. He even started doing Dennis hopper impressions from blue velvet at one point.

 

Talking of “characters” I thought the CGI for ~Tarkin and Leia was extremely poor and I wish they had found some other way to do this. Tarkin looked like Dobby from the Harry Potter movies!

 

I know that Rogue One was initially not well received by the “Studio” in the early cut and had 6 weeks of extensive reshoots. It would have been interesting to know what they didn’t like about it?

 

Will I be watching new Star Wars movies in the future? Probably only on Blu-ray.

Edited December 22, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Custard

[Finkeren]

I really think Diego Luna's character was the worst offender. Presented from the start as a bad-boy-good-guy who likes to play dirty and don't mind crossing every boundary to reach his goal, he never, ever truly makes a wrong decission or really places himself at odds with Jynn. As a result, there is never any serious conflict between the two main characters.

 

 

Basically he should have been the one to kill Galen Erso, and he should have lied to Jynn about it

 

 

Plus Luna is just too much of a pretty face. No way in Hell that guy has been involved in a bloody insurgency since he was six years old.

Edited December 22, 2016 by Finkeren

[6./ZG26_Custard]

I'm wondering just how much of the original vision (and story) for this film was lost on the cutting room floor after "The studio" insisted on 6 weeks of reshoots. 

[Finkeren]

I'm wondering just how much of the original vision (and story) for this film was lost on the cutting room floor after "The studio" insisted on 6 weeks of reshoots.

We will probably get an idea in a few years, when a writer/director/producer deems it safe to spill the beans.

 

In any case: It's not a bad movie overall, just less exciting than it could have been.

 

In a franchise that contains The Phantom Menace and The Star Wars Holiday Special, Rogue One is pretty damn good.

[Brano]

Dont analyze it so much. Let the Force be with you

[6./ZG26_Custard]

 

 

In any case: It's not a bad movie overall, just less exciting than it could have been.

 

I can agree that's it not bad overall but I can't forgive them for this.

 

[150GCT_Veltro]

Guys, we need to take care about Lucas in 1977.......... What he did with Star Wars is probably not more possibile today.

 

Rogue One makes it possible again, but .......39 years ago.......39 years later.......it's a lot of time.

 

When we have to make statements about new SW movies, we have to take care about this.

 

Considering this, Rogue One is a great movie if not one of the best SW ever.

 

Disney...we know about it...but this time the movie finally gets Rebellion ass kicked all around. It's not exactly a "family movie"....

 

It's a very strong and deep movie for my opinion.

Edited December 22, 2016 by 150GCT_Veltro

[Finkeren]

When evaluating a SW movie, it's important to keep in mind, that pretty much no single element in the original trilogy was original. It's all stolen from somewhere be it comic books (especially Valerian et Laureline), Kurosawa movies or spaghetti westerns. Lucas' genious comes from blending and balancing his creation pretty much perfectly to create a masterpiece that managed to be both epic and down-to-earth, campy as well as awe-inspiring, funny, scary and tragic all crammed into a few hours of cinimatic gold.

 

The fact that hardly anything is original is not a criticism. You don't piss on the inventor of gin and tonic for not inventing either gin or tonic.

 

However, the SW Universe is now so engrained in our culture, that new stories told in that universe pretty much have to be original, or it will be immediately obvious, where they are copied from.

[6./ZG26_Custard]

 

 

Guys, we need to take care about Lucas in 1977.......... What he did with Star Wars is probably not more possibile today.

I think the original Star Wars Trilogy is a fantastic achievement but it owes it conception and development to many other influential films, stories and of course the classic “Heroes Journey” concept.

 

 

 

 

 

Even the film Main Theme has borrowed in part from the Kings Row

 

 

And the remember that end ceremony scene in Star Wars?

 

 

 

 

Considering this, Rogue One is a great movie if not one of the best SW ever.

 

I can’t agree on that one, It has to be for me The Empire Strikes Back.

[150GCT_Veltro]

I'm talking about the "others" SW off course, and yes......Empire Strikes Back is the masterpiece of SW, ABSOLUTELY.

 

Edit.

However, after 40 years, somebody has been able to reproduce a really great SW movie. This is what i mean, an impossible mission...but it did it with Rogue One, so.....

The Stormtroopers for ex. are simple stunning, with incredible blaster shoots! Wonderfull! We have never seen the original Stormtroopers in this way. Really amazing.

 

A big Bravo!

Gareth Edwards

Edited December 22, 2016 by 150GCT_Veltro