Anyone here with a "Youngtimer/Oldtimer/'Classic Car'?"

[PFR_Bearkiller72]

Salute, fellow flyers. Anyone here who is a fellow driver? And so conserver, restorer, et al?

 

Someone who is interested in and / or working on classic cars?

 

If so, let's see your rides! I'll give this topic a humble start, showing off my 1973 VW Beetle.

 

Until I bought it, it has been in family posession, being handed down from initial owner (grandpa),

to son, to daughter, to young woman, who is wife to grandson now.

 

Got this? No? Well, don't matter. It has been in family posession ever since it's delivery and it has been taken care of.

That means it has been kept "streetworthy" for some decades and not restored.

Partially patched up that is, but running.

 

And that was my intention to buy it. A Beetle with nothing to weld, with minor mechanical work to do.

 

Replacing the interior carpet and while doing so conserving all interior nests of corrosion with Ovatrol and Mike Sander's and 

covering all other surfaces with "Brantho-Korrux", should give us a few years more of fun of driving around,

before a full resto is inevitable.

Edited December 11, 2016 by SK_Bearkiller72

[Dakpilot]

Nice!

 

I used to have a 1968 Alfa Romeo GT 1750 veloce

 

http://www.stelvio.dk/uk/product_detail.asp?mode=master&maID=253

 

sadly I no longer have it and make do with a 91 Ducati 900SS for fun days and polishing 

 

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/ducati/ducati_900ss%2092.htm

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[II/JG11_ATLAN_VR]

Mercedes Benz 220E 1993

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ke4xfw97willxn/846285.gif?dl=0

Edited December 12, 2016 by II/JG11ATLAN

[Nil]

it is one of the best heritage you can get! excellent!

[LukeFF]

I came into the possession of a fully restored 1979 Mazda RX7 when I married my wife. It was a restoration project by her grandfather. Sadly, it mainly now just sits in storage, because neither her nor I know how to drive a manual transmission.

Edited December 12, 2016 by LukeFF

[BMA_FlyingShark]

 

 

neither her nor I know how to drive a manual transmission

You're kiddin', right?

 

[LukeFF]

You're kiddin', right?

 

 

No joke! 

[MiloMorai]

The only vehicle I like to drive is a manual transmission. Don't even have to think about changing gears, just comes automatically.

[Bando]

I came into the possession of a fully restored 1979 Mazda RX7 when I married my wife. It was a restoration project by her grandfather. Sadly, it mainly now just sits in storage, because neither her nor I know how to drive a manual transmission.

 

I know it's off topic, but when you had driving lessons, you hade them in automatic transmission only?

If so, does that mean you're not allowed to drive a manual transmission?

Forgive my ignorance, but as I am born and raised in Holland, to me it's unheard of that someone did not learn to drive manual transmission (in my teens an automatic transmission was something rare in those days).

Would you need a new series of lessons and a new drivers exam to be able to drive that car? Does it also state on your drivers license that your allowed to drive automatics only?

 

Edit: I hope you do not misunderstand: I am certainly not trying to "look down on you" or something. I'm still a bit baffled by this.

Edited December 13, 2016 by Bando

[LLv34_Flanker]

S!

 

Nice Beetle there and other cars,too! I used to have Toyota Celica from 1973, but sold long ago. I wish I hadn't. Well, since then I have gone thru a few cars until my recent one. It is not an old timer or similar, but a classic in it's own way: BMW M5. Mine is year 2002 and driven 163500km or about 100k miles. It is in mint condition except a small paint fault in the bonnet corner, which will be fixed this winter. I do not drive the car at winter, only a few months during summer, to keep it in shape. But oh boy do I enjoy the roar of the 5.0 litre V8 And it has 6-speed manual transmission.

[Dakpilot]

I came into the possession of a fully restored 1979 Mazda RX7 when I married my wife. It was a restoration project by her grandfather. Sadly, it mainly now just sits in storage, because neither her nor I know how to drive a manual transmission.

 

Well now you have a project  Mazda rotaries are awesome and interesting pieces of engineering, I have always wanted one, will never forget the sound of the 4 rotor R26B engine at Le Mans 24hr, which it won in 91 (but not the year I was there)

 

 

I know it's off topic, but when you had driving lessons, you hade them in automatic transmission only?

If so, does that mean you're not allowed to drive a manual transmission?

Forgive my ignorance, but as I am born and raised in Holland, to me it's unheard of that someone did not learn to drive manual transmission (in my teens an automatic transmission was something rare in those days).

Would you need a new series of lessons and a new drivers exam to be able to drive that car? Does it also state on your drivers license that your allowed to drive automatics only?

 

Edit: I hope you do not misunderstand: I am certainly not trying to "look down on you" or something. I'm still a bit baffled by this.

 

I can only speak for UK and where I now live, but here if you pass your test in an Auto you are restricted to that type of transmission

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[Bando]

So it works both ways? Meaning having done your exam on a manual, you cannot drive a automated transmission?

[Aap]

What I have heard then in USA and Canada it does not matter if you do your exam in manual or automatic, you are allowed to drive both types afterwards.

In Europe, if you take the exam in automatic, you are only allowed to drive automatic, but if you take the exam in manual, you are allowed to drive both manual and automatic. For that reason, I think that 99% of the exams in Europe are taken in manual transmission cars. 

[MiloMorai]

Yes Kemp, that is so at least for Canada.

[Bando]

I did some checking here. Turns out you're quite right, I just had not heard from it before.

There are apparently people that cannot drive a car with manual transmission (I'm talking about the way it goes in Holland) and are being examed to drive an automatic transmission.

They are explicitly (those are the used words) forbidden to drive a car with manual transmission.

 

I just never knew this.

 

Edit: Sorry Luke 

Edited December 13, 2016 by Bando

[LukeFF]

I know it's off topic, but when you had driving lessons, you had them in automatic transmission only?

If so, does that mean you're not allowed to drive a manual transmission?

Forgive my ignorance, but as I am born and raised in Holland, to me it's unheard of that someone did not learn to drive manual transmission (in my teens an automatic transmission was something rare in those days).

Would you need a new series of lessons and a new driver's exam to be able to drive that car? Does it also state on your driver's license that you're allowed to drive automatics only?

 

Edit: I hope you do not misunderstand: I am certainly not trying to "look down on you" or something. I'm still a bit baffled by this.

 

No problem at all. Yes, when I went through driver's training, I only ever drove in vehicles with automatic transmissions. Even so, if I wanted to drive a manual transmission, all it would take is someone taking the time to show me how to operate one - no sort of new exam or formal training needed. Strange but true! 

[MiloMorai]

Note: some vehicles require the clutch to be in to start.

 

This is for a 'H' shift pattern.

 

Start vehicle in neutral, hand brake 'on'

Push on clutch pedal with left foot, hand brake off, foot on foot brake pedal 'on'

Move shift lever left forward and up (1st gear)

Slowly let out clutch, take foot off foot brake and move to throttle

Push throttle pedal lightly to add more gas or engine will stall (not too much gas)

 

You are now moving

 

For 2cd gear, take foot of gas pedal, push clutch in, pull shift lever back and left, let off on clutch pedal

 

For 3rd gear, repeat clutch and gas, move lever up and right

 

For 4th gear, repeat clutch and gas, move shift lever back

 

sorry for large image

[Bando]

Geeezz.

I wish I was in the neighborhood Luke.

I'd learn you the ropes in no time at all.

 

I hope you do find it nice to drive that vintage car someday..

[LukeFF]

 

 

I hope you do find it nice to drive that vintage car someday..

 

 

I hope so too!

[I./JG68_Sperber]

CJ7 1978 Jeep V8 6l, And a German booty Willys

Edited December 14, 2016 by I./JG68_Sperber

[Sokol1]

This is for a 'H' shift pattern.

 

Start vehicle in neutral, hand brake 'on'

Push on clutch pedal with left foot, hand brake off, foot on foot brake pedal 'on'

Move shift lever left forward and up (1st gear)

Slowly let out clutch, take foot off foot brake and move to throttle

Push throttle pedal lightly to add more gas or engine will stall (not too much gas)

 

You are now moving

 

For 2cd gear, take foot of gas pedal, push clutch in, pull shift lever back and left, let off on clutch pedal

 

For 3rd gear, repeat clutch and gas, move lever up and right

 

For 4th gear, repeat clutch and gas, move shift lever back

 

 

 

Then you need to stop in some very inclined street... 

[MiloMorai]

Then you need to stop in some very inclined street... 

 

LOL. Be sure.

 

Was driving a truck with 3 tons of milk onboard and had to stop at a red light on a steep hill. Old mechanical clutch that had my leg shaking by the time the light turned green. Was sweating bullfrogs but managed to get away without damage in the back or rolling into the car behind.

[Guest deleted@30725]

No joke! 

 

 

 

Good new years project

[Trident_109]

I know it's off topic, but when you had driving lessons, you hade them in automatic transmission only?

If so, does that mean you're not allowed to drive a manual transmission?

Forgive my ignorance, but as I am born and raised in Holland, to me it's unheard of that someone did not learn to drive manual transmission (in my teens an automatic transmission was something rare in those days).

Would you need a new series of lessons and a new drivers exam to be able to drive that car? Does it also state on your drivers license that your allowed to drive automatics only?

 

Edit: I hope you do not misunderstand: I am certainly not trying to "look down on you" or something. I'm still a bit baffled by this.

That's not an issue in the states. Driving schools teach on automatic transmission cars. Driving with a stick falls to the driver to learn on his own but there are no restrictions from the Department of Motor Vehicles regarding which transmission you can or can't drive.

 

For me it was a matter of an afternoon to get used to the timing of the clutch and gas and becoming familiar with it in traffic. I'm not sure if learning on an automatic and then trying to drive a stick requires a different certification (if I understand how it works in Holland).

[Bando]

Apparently, but I have to say I never knew someone who had an "automatic transmission only" drivers license, so I've never seen a restricted one.

[MiloMorai]

Also for snowflakes

 

[GP*]

Also for snowflakes

 

Funny, but not for the right reasons; funny, because it's the generation preceding millennials that drove the MT into the ground (so to speak) in America. Most millenials weren't part of the new car buying market when manufacturers determined that most Americans couldn't be bothered with rowing their own gears. I'm a millennial who's been driving stick for 15 years, and it's exceptionally hard to find desirable cars with a manual transmission today. If more manuals were around, more "kids these days" would drive them -- they're considered very cool, but for some reason, mysterious.

 

BTW, the generation you just insulted by calling snowflakes starts in the mid 80s...so you ought to be well into adulthood if you want to cast stones like that.