InProgress Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) Soo when can we expect update with pistols? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_J._Baggett Edited November 30, 2016 by InProgress
IRRE_Centx Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Soo when can we expect update with pistols? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_J._Baggett Why use a pistol when you have flares in game? Stoikiy posted this few weeks ago for example
InProgress Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 If that was a gun he could blow him up
Mustang_45 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 I don't believe this guy's story. In fact, his story contradicts wartime records. First of all there were no Zero's involved in that encounter. Second, no Japanese pilots were killed. "This account is not consistent with Japanese wartime records - discussed in the book "B-24 Liberators vs Ki-43 Oscars" by Edward M Young on page 57. This dogfight was between 13 Ki-43s of the JAAF 64th Sentai and around 12 B-24s of the 7th BG. There were no Japanese pilot losses."
InProgress Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 Because wartime records are all true
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 No, but proving wrong that some records are not true is usually much harder, on the other hand witness stories are much easier to bust. The probability that Japanese Army Sento Shoho is incorrect is drastically lower than that of a pilot or crew member claiming something. Sento Shoho are official post combat reports, this documents are held at the Tokyo NIDS and are best source at indicating actual combat losses. They are of general form but provide details of each pilot and his fate (as well as his aircraft), they clearly quote the detail of losses and claims. As a matter of fact in many instances they are more precise than a lot of allied unit's war diaries/reports.
IRRE_Centx Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 (edited) If that was a gun he could blow him up Actually flares in game do a lot of damages to aircrafts and pilots Tried it with a friend, we fired flares at each other after spawning on an airfield on our squadron training server, one well placed flare is enough to destroy an engine or headshot the pilot (instantly killed my friend :'D) Never underestimate the power of flares :'D Edited November 30, 2016 by -IRRE-Centx
SYN_Mike77 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 YOu want pistols? Download Rise of Flight! They modeled several different types of pistols.
Blooddawn1942 Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Reminds me of those crazy videos, when a guy killed a Two-Seater with his pistol in Rise of Flight. Never managed to reproduce that though.
J2_Trupobaw Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 It's very much reproducable . Because wartime records are all true Much more trustworthy than individual pilots memories, and less likely to exaggerate...
Monostripezebra Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Just use flares... it takes some really good hits to do real damage, but we shot planes down in RoF with flares and it is also possible in BoS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wq5GV1HWSI
Danziger Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 I know these vets are old guys now and people wouldn't suspect them of lying but, they were quite young when the war was going on. I've spent three years in Iraq during the recent war. There were several people in my platoon that we caught writing BS stories back home to their families trying to make themselves out to be some kind of hero badass.
PatrickAWlson Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 Even if we rule out outright lying (usually a fair thing to do) it is just a fact that claims and awarded victories exceeded actual losses by huge amounts. This was true in WWI at 120 MPH and even more so in WWII with bigger battles at 400 MPH. Too fast, too confusing, too much adrenaline. I can completely respect the danger that these men put themselves in and still admit that the stories are not to be taken as Truth with a capital "T". 2
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