XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Hi All. I think, although maybe some do not care. I thought it appropriate to create an awards section, To reward the best creators "Painters" of camouflage. During this time, Throughout this time since the tool was released to work with skins, Many, we have done awesome jobs. To obtain a certificate is necessary: 1- Having created a minimum of 5 skins 2- These 5 skins have to be historically correct 3- the quality of work -Within each certificate a gallon will be created, Where a small detail will be given to all the creators. -Regardless of your quality of work. you can get. Gold Award Silver Award Bronze Award Scrap Award Camulages Certificate Here everyone who receives Diploma for their work done: Download Orginal Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/2vx8bomb651nkwj/Certificate%20to%20III-JG2Gustav05%20skining.jpg Download Orginal Size: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ut2d7bkzq28rmfd/BP_Iceman-00003.jpg Download Orginal Size: http://www.mediafire.com/file/8b3r38xkuna1tag/Certificate+to+II.-ZG1_SPEKTRE76-00004.jpg Download Orginal Size: http://www.mediafire.com/view/j67vf5e766vxo2n/Certificate%20to%20A-E-Hartmann-00007.jpg Download Original Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/j64z6mxu61hczpo/Certificate%20to%20BlackHellHound1-00008.jpg Download Original size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/ppgmmtubgwj4pf4/Certificate%20to%20UF_Zargos-00005.jpg Download Original Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/wqy2h927w7ewv2i/Certificate%20to%20216th_Peterla-00006.jpg Download Original Size: http://www.mediafire.com/view/uar49jqup7bgvba/Certificate%20to-%20I.-JG1_Baron-00009.jpg Download Original Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/k3j5do95dcem559/Certificate%20to-%20Pierre64%20-00010.jpg Download Original Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/2ll3h6aukxvkmgd/Certificate%20to%20Viperrm64%20-%2000011.jpg Download Original Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/0c9n5ogyj09yxf1/Certificate%20to-BorysVorobyov-00012.jpg Download Original Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/3xavxh9y1uojzpa/Certificate%20to-Obelix-00014.jpg Download Original Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/61r9sui1pu6hk51/Certificate%20to-Reflected-00013.jpg Each week will add new diplomas for the works done during these years I wish you like my initiative PS: Sorry for My inglish I need to practice with someone on TS3 Edited November 19, 2016 by =3./JG3=Lothar29 4 12
SOLIDKREATE Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) So, do these have to be new skins or skins we have done already? Because I have quite a number of them posted here. Just some, not all examples: LINK: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/22666-esports-snbf-specific-skin-packs-spektre76/ And I have many more of the threads here as well. Some even better than these. Edited November 16, 2016 by II./ZG1_SPEKTRE76 2
Yakdriver Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 Give me 5 meaningful, practical, productive reasons to support this idea. 1
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Posted November 16, 2016 Give me 5 meaningful, practical, productive reasons to support this idea. First: many hours of work Second: Many historical studies for each Airplane third: The community enjoys the work of these skins Four: In the same way that awards are given for campaigns, I want to create prizes for camouflage workers fifth: All those who some time created a skin, Knows the amount of downloads it has, But in the forum, only a few people are grateful for this effort, I can follow But if you need to know more, send me a PM This thread is to deliver all the diplomas and awards to all those who have made skins for the community No more off topic, please 3
Yakdriver Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Number 1+2.People that like Planes and painting, they will do it for many reasons, but i do not think a certificate would be a good "motivational factor"Each individual has his own motivational factor.Number 3: very true. But will the community also enjoy to decide who gets a special status (certificate) and who does not get that status?How will such a Prize affect this small community? unless we are sure it has a good, motivating, unifying effect, i doubt it is a good idea.[Edited]are there Awards for Campaigns? No clue.Number 5:See Number 1+2.I believe that the people that paint planes have enough, strong motivations to do it. Upvotes and comments are always nice.But i believe that the one of the best compliments that an aircraft painter can get, is to fly online, and see an other player use the skin that the painter created. It is living, powerful, active proof that the work is not only beautiful (and accurate?) but also useful and appreciated. The second best compliment is to see the painted plane in a beautiful screenshot on the forum. Also shows appreciation.--> i think.In two sentences:I think that an award/certificate + voting has a negative effect in this extremely small community, for users and painters. Is this a competition?I like the basic idea to show appreciation, and do it with a strong signal. I believe we can find a stronger, louder, more intense ways to send a message to the Aircraft painters. ============================For example, very ridiculous:Panzerbär has painted the G4.So how about the Community put some money together to buy him a Coffee mug with a screenshot of the G4 printed on it.or a 2 meter large and 1 meter high print of the G 4, to hang on the wall. That means not only does the message arrive on the screen, but also in real life. Not only does he see it when he comes to the forum, but also his wife and kids see what he did, and the guests in his house.something better than "pixels"Okay, it sounds crazy, but it is a strong signal of appreciation. Edited December 2, 2016 by Bearcat
Danziger Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 That would be awesome. I would love a print to hang on the wall. A huge picture of Zargos' 190 hanging in my dining room would make me happy. My family probably wouldn't like it though 1
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Number 1+2. People that like Planes and painting, they will do it for many reasons, but i do not think a certificate would be a good "motivational factor" Each individual has his own motivational factor. Number 3: very true. But will the community also enjoy to decide who gets a special status (certificate) and who does not get that status? How will such a Prize affect this small community? unless we are sure it has a good, motivating, unifying effect, i doubt it is a good idea. [Edited] Number 4: are there Awards for Campaigns? No clue. Number 5: See Number 1+2. I believe that the people that paint planes have enough, strong motivations to do it. Upvotes and comments are always nice. But i believe that the one of the best compliments that an aircraft painter can get, is to fly online, and see an other player use the skin that the painter created. It is living, powerful, active proof that the work is not only beautiful (and accurate?) but also useful and appreciated. The second best compliment is to see the painted plane in a beautiful screenshot on the forum. Also shows appreciation. --> i think. In two sentences: I think that an award/certificate + voting has a negative effect in this extremely small community, for users and painters. Is this a competition? I like the basic idea to show appreciation, and do it with a strong signal. I believe we can find a stronger, louder, more intense ways to send a message to the Aircraft painters. ============================ For example, very ridiculous: Panzerbär has painted the G4. So how about the Community put some money together to buy him a Coffee mug with a screenshot of the G4 printed on it. or a 2 meter large and 1 meter high print of the G 4, to hang on the wall. That means not only does the message arrive on the screen, but also in real life. Not only does he see it when he comes to the forum, but also his wife and kids see what he did, and the guests in his house. something better than "pixels" Okay, it sounds crazy, but it is a strong signal of appreciation. Ok, I will continue making awards for fellow skinners, if you do not agree, sorry, I would like you to support the idea as many have done.. No off topic please Edited December 2, 2016 by Bearcat 2
Cybermat47 Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 Give me 5 meaningful, practical, productive reasons to support this idea. Give me one reason why this shouldn't be done. 4
Yakdriver Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 Give me one reason why this shouldn't be done. It splits the painters into certified and uncertified ones it creates divide in a small community Lothar you invited to establish my arguments. But then you state i am wasting your time. Let me say this: the only person wasting time, is you, because you choose to - by reading and commenting my post. tip of the day: to not waste time, ignore the things you do not like. It saves a LOT of time. 1
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Posted November 16, 2016 It splits the painters into certified and uncertified ones it creates divide in a small community Lothar you invited to establish my arguments. But then you state i am wasting your time. Let me say this: the only person wasting time, is you, because you choose to - by reading and commenting my post. tip of the day: to not waste time, ignore the things you do not like. It saves a LOT of time. I can ask who said that some will have a prize and others will not? I'm not going to answer anything else of yours, people liked the initiative. And I will continue to do because every fur worker will get his reward 1
=J18=FMFNoemis Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 In my humble opinion, here we are talking not only about motivation and recognition for the hard work, but also about the virtual pilots recognized and used more correct skins of their aircraft and thus be closer to the historical reality of WWII. I support the proposal of Lothar29 1
SOLIDKREATE Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) It's just an award guys. He's just trying to do something nice. I for one do not see this as divisive at all. I do a lot of work for people that you don't see. Ask II./JG17 about it. I also do not ask for any recognition either. I would however enjoy making an official skin for a plane in the upcoming module. Perhaps the Fw-190A-5. I'd love to do that one. I live not 25min away from White 'A' from III./JG54. You know the ONLY all original FLYING A-5 in the whole world. Edited November 17, 2016 by II./ZG1_SPEKTRE76 1 5
Danziger Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 It's just an award guys. He's just trying to do something nice. I for one do not see this as divisive at all. I do a lot of work for people that you don't see. Ask II./JG17 about it. I also do not ask for any recognition either. I would however enjoy making an official skin for a plane in the upcoming module. Perhaps the Fw-190A-5. I'd love to do that one. I live not 25min away from White 'A' from III./JG54. You know the ONLY all original FLYING A-5 in the whole world. I would nominate you as official Luftwaffe skinner for 1C/777. 1
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 I would nominate you as official Luftwaffe skinner for 1C/777. Your Diploma is the next. my Friend and 4 more.. Salute all Skin Builders for Here
Cybermat47 Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 It splits the painters into certified and uncertified ones it creates divide in a small community No... there will be people who have earned the reward, and people who haven't. And if people complain about not recieving an award they haven't earned, then frankly they're too immature to be playing video games. 2
SOLIDKREATE Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 I would nominate you as official Luftwaffe skinner for 1C/777. Thanks now petition the team 1
A-E-Hartmann Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) I find Lothar's initiative very good and I thank him for it. Yakdriver, on 17 Nov 2016 - 00:19, said:It splits the painters into certified and uncertified ones it creates divide in a small community I do not think so, because Skinner has no competition. Edited November 17, 2016 by A-E-Hartmann 1
216th_Peterla Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Really nice and grateful detail Lothar, I love how you crafted those diplomas. Thanks so much for mine 1
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 Ok three new Diplomas . go to the Build more. for a all Skiners 1
A-E-Hartmann Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Lothar , i would be possible to diplomas in size 350X50 (for signature).?
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 Lothar , i would be possible to diplomas in size 350X50 (for signature).? Yes not problem
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 thank you . hartmann One problem I have to redesign everything again to make a signature. I will do it, but now I have work I prefer to do it later. I promise to try to make diploma for signature
PFR_Bearkiller72 Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 How about diplomas for our historical mission and campaign makers? Do and did they not put endless hours in making an environment to fly these skins in? 1
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 How about diplomas for our historical mission and campaign makers? Do and did they not put endless hours in making an environment to fly these skins in? It would be a good idea for someone who works on things like missions to do diplomas for mission creators. Would be brilliant idea But here it is only about the creators of skins I hope someday someone will give them the deserved prize. I so desire, because there are very good missions, but this is certificate skins
Zargos Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Lothar, I can't send you a MP. Is you inbox full ? Would you mind sending me your email via MP ? Cheers.
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 17, 2016 Author Posted November 17, 2016 Lothar, I can't send you a MP. Is you inbox full ? Would you mind sending me your email via MP ? Cheers. No problem friend
III/JG2Gustav05 Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 great thanks to Lothar for this brilliant idea! I don't understand why there has people who is upset with it. 1
Danziger Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 great thanks to Lothar for this brilliant idea! I don't understand why there has people who is upset with it. My uncle told me when I was a kid. If you put a lot of crabs in a bucket all of the ones on the bottom will try to pull to the bottom the crabs who try to escape. It's the same with people. When someone tries to rise up and do something nice some people will always try to drag them down. 1
PFR_Bearkiller72 Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) My uncle told me when I was a kid. If you put a lot of crabs in a bucket all of the ones on the bottom will try to pull to the bottom the crabs who try to escape. It's the same with people. When someone tries to rise up and do something nice some people will always try to drag them down. Errrm, while the observation of the crabs might be right, the porting of it to human behaviour is not. The crabs are in a struggle to survive. Every creature on our planet would react that way, once it comes to saving one's life. That has nothing to do with giving away certificates/rewards, or criticizing/adorsing the proposal. Criticism/Adorsement should be treated in a well minded manner. Thus it should be received. As Lothar said: "No off topic please". Edited November 18, 2016 by SK_Bearkiller72
Boomerang Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 Hat's off to you Lothar for community idea's and engagement
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Posted November 19, 2016 Hi Friends, Obelix, BorysVorobyov and Reflected, Already have download link in Original Size. Go to creata, new Certificate!
Danziger Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 Thanks Lothar it looks awesome! That is my favourite of my skins also 1
XQ_Lothar29 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Posted November 19, 2016 (edited) Next page with the new diplomas Download Original Size: http://www.mediafire.com/view/435jteu93oyffv1/Certificate%20to-9.-JG27golani79-00017.jpg Download Original Size: http://www.mediafire.com/view/r8ewhtoha0ek2aj/Certificate%20to-6.-ZG26_5tuka-00015.jpg Download Original Size: http://www.mediafire.com/view/fh3ccxt9gjuu49o/Certificate%20to-%3DTIA%3DTBear-00018.jpg Download Origibnal Size: http://www.mediafire.com/view/4m74t9689j708v8/Certificate%20to-%20geraky9%20-00016.jpg Download Original Size: http://www.mediafire.com/view/b8dk693xr0x6d1g/Certificate%20to-gabuzomeu-00019.jpg Download Orginal Size:http://www.mediafire.com/view/q8as5b75alc3ybw/Certificate%20to-Finkeren-00020.jpg i hppe i like this Salute all skiners Edited November 19, 2016 by =3./JG3=Lothar29 1
beepee Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Sounds like a bunch of ego-stroking to me. EDIT: When I like a skin someone has created, I give them reputation points and say thank you in the appropriate post. Is that not enough? Edited November 29, 2016 by MF-beepee 3
Danziger Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 Yeah some guys in the French forum seem to take offense as well.
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