New Yak

[Muddy]

Well, the complaining should begin soon from the Lufty guys about this Simply Wonderful aircraft ..

 

I feel for the first time confidant in my own skills as even as a novice in the seat of this one,

 

Outstanding and thank you team

[216th_Jordan]

I hope no complaining begins and everybody enjoys it

[Turban]

Why should the LW complain ?

 

Finally something pretty for us to shoot at. 

[Asgar]

to me it felt like the flys pretty similar to the ser 69. just better guns and visibilty. and since you already die instantly when a yak is pointed at your 109 it shouldn't be to much of a difference

i just hope we get the reworked 109 FMs, with the rudder changes we have in the E-7

Edited November 15, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Asgar

[216th_Jordan]

i just hope we get the reworked 109 FMs, with the rudder changes we have in the E-7

 

If I'm not mistaken the new Yak already has it.

[Asgar]

the new Yak has the reworked 109 FM? if that's true then we're in serious trouble   (I'm not talking about the aileron efficiency stuff that was mentioned in one of the last DDs)

Edited November 15, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Asgar

[216th_Jordan]

the new Yak has the reworked 109 FM? if that's true then we're in serious trouble 

 

No, lol! But the rudder/roll stability behavior.

 

Ok, I see, opinions differ here. I was able to keep the yak way more steady.

Edited November 15, 2016 by 216th_Jordan

[150GCT_Veltro]

Asgar why'd you want the new FM for 109s since the current fm gives them a big advantage, they can fly at 45 degree AoA and execute weird looking flips and prop hanging

 

 

DD120

9. Correct 'jumpy' behavior of Bf 109 F4, G2 and F2 to resemble E7 behavior and check other planes;

 

DD138

We were able to establish the root cause of some excessive roll reactions of our aircrafts on the rudder.

Edited November 15, 2016 by 150GCT_Veltro

[Asgar]

Has what? New Yak's rudder is very touchy and little rubberband like. Yak s.69 on the other hand rudder is very smooth. Is the new Yak heavier? Cos it feels like the older yak would be lighter and more maneuverable, might be placebo tho

 

Asgar why'd you want the new FM for 109s since the current fm gives them a big advantage, they can fly at 45 degree AoA and execute weird looking flips and prop hanging

wow, [Edited] on every thread don't you? look at Jordans video. if you think the 109 does weird prop hanging that means the Yak-1 does as well...i guess we have to nerf every plane then

 

Knock it off.

Edited November 16, 2016 by Bearcat

[150GCT_Veltro]

About Yak-1b, it doesn't seem to be an UFO but the weapons seem to be really da.n lethal, so we 109 guys should have to be really carefull to don't take shoots at all. A quick test with 4 x BF-109G-2 vs 4 x Yak-1b with QMB, results in 3 x 109 blowing up by AI fire in a very few time.

 

So, fly checking 6 all the time.

 

AI is absolutely terrible now, poor offliner gamers.

Edited November 15, 2016 by 150GCT_Veltro

[Dutchvdm]

About Yak-1b, it doesn't seem to be an UFO but the weapons seem to be really letal, so we 109 guys should have to be really carefull to don't take shoots. A quick test with 4 x BF-109G-2 vs 4 x Yak-1b with QMB, results in 3 x 109 blowing up by AI fire in a very few time.

 

So, fly checking 6 all the time.

 

AI is absolutely terrible now, poor offliner gamers.

Guns are equal to the Lagg right?

 

Grt M

[Finkeren]

Guns are equal to the Lagg right?

 

Grt M

Yes, with slightly different ammo loads - 20 fewer rounds for the ShVAK, 20 more for the UBS.

[E69_geramos109]

The new yak is about 15km/h faster on the deck so G2 will have some problems to escape. F4 can if he uses his emergency power and trim settings. Also the new Ubs are a problem shooting from far distance so reds have now a real chance to caught you if you dont have alt or distance to escape. 

Edited November 15, 2016 by E69_geramos109

[II./JG77_Manu*]

The new yak is about 15km/h faster on the deck so G2 will have some problems to escape. F4 can if he uses his emergency power and trim settings. Also the new Ubs are a problem shooting from far distance so reds have now a real chance to caught you if you dont have alt or distance to escape. 

 

Which was already the case before with the La5, which is still quite a bit faster then the Yak1b

[Finkeren]

Took it for a couple of spins, and it's wonderful.

 

The main thing of course is the view from the cockpit and it's marvelous. Best in the entire sim by quite a lot. The heavy framing around the armored windscreen does make it slightly easier to lose sight of a target you're following than in the Series 69, but it's no worse than for instance the 109s.

 

The handling is wonderful, just a slight improvement on the already great S. 69, but the overall increased speed just gives you that extra bit of confidence during maneuvers, which allows you to pull just a little tighter, than you would in the S. 69. The general feel is very close to that of the S.69. 

 

The increased speed due to the cleaner airframe makes it noticeably easier to keep your speed up in a fight. Even in a tight furball with 109 F4s, I had no trouble keeping her above 400. Even though her engine power is the same, you just feel like you have more to work with. I didn't really notice just how big a difference it makes, until I tried the S. 69 immediately after flying the 127.

 

The improved cooling is very, very effective and quite handy, but beware of opening your water radiator too much, that thing is a bloody airbrake. On the autumn map I could fight at low speed at medium altitude and never had to open my water rad more than 50%. You'll almost never need to open that radiator fully except to quickly cool an overheating engine. 

 

The armament is somewhat beefier and a definite improvement over the S.69, very effective against fighters but for bombers it still feels inadequate.

 

Model, internally and externally, is beautifully done. I never thought the Yaks were anything special to look at, but seeing it move through the air does give her a certain elegance, that her razorbacked older sister lacks. 

 

Overall a very, very nice fighter, clearly the best of the VVS arsenal, but not a world beater. The late 109s are still faster everywhere but right on the deck (and I couldn't even quite catch the G2 going at combat power down low) and both can still turn with the 1B.

 

Very satisfied. She feels and flies like a Yak. It's an incremental improvement, not a completely new plane.

Edited November 15, 2016 by Finkeren

[E69_geramos109]

I find also a little more difficult to aim with the new frontal glass. Is a little square with big bars and you lose the perception of the plane. To aim i have to make more zoom to move the head out the bars is the only thing i find that is worse than in the 69 series. 109 has also bars but the area is big and you can moove the view easily. 

 

About the response of the rudder i dont know if is different or no but it i think that to remove the razorback has changes in estability.

[69th_chuter]

Interesting speculation, geramos109, about potential loss of some rudder effectiveness (as well as some directional stability) with the reduced spine height. 

That was certainly the case with the Mustang, but the Mustang's spine was lowered more and the canopy height was raised causing considerably more turbulence* than in the Yak's case. 

 

 

*The larger culprit of the Mustang's loss of directional stability was due to the previous switch from the three blade prop to broader chord four-blade which, when coupled with the canopy turbulence, led to the addition of the dorsal fin extension and switching the rudder servo tab to anti-servo.

 

 

 

PS.  The term "razorback" during WW2 referred only to the P-47 as its spine was almost like a wing trailing edge (very unlike the 1946 3D model). How it came to be associated with non-bubble canopied aircraft in general is unknown to me - lol.  I accept it - we all know what we mean.  (Late-life Asperger's diagnosis.)

[Gambit21]

Fantastic, enlightening post Fink.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

If I'm not mistaken the new Yak already has it.

 

BlackSix , is Yak 1 B modeled according to the findings of investigation about trim and roll as was mention in DD no.138, if yes can we experience it already in game ?

No, we decided that it would be wrong to do it only for one new aircraft.

 

 

[Mmaruda]

Just did a test flight. It's gooooood.

[Mesha44]

Well, Happy New Yaks day to all.  

[Gambit21]

Curse my slow download speed.

[Sunde]

Its really good lol, put flaps out and cruise around at 160kmh just meters above the ground. Its guns are really powerful (Lagg) level. In general an amazing aircraft, and beautifully modeled visually. I dont know if its handling is realistic, its one hell of a machine. Certainly my new favorite fighter in game. Nice one devs! 

Edited November 15, 2016 by JG19_Mueller

[DeafBee]

I love it!!!

 

Now we just need it on the Wings Of Liberty server.     

[Jade_Monkey]

If anyone wants to try the new Yak-1b on a SP mission that is not QMB I just converted an old mission to have the new plane in it:

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/25593-jade-monkeys-single-player-sp-missions/?p=410202

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

PS.  The term "razorback" during WW2 referred only to the P-47 as its spine was almost like a wing trailing edge (very unlike the 1946 3D model). How it came to be associated with non-bubble canopied aircraft in general is unknown to me - lol.  I accept it - we all know what we mean.  (Late-life Asperger's diagnosis.)

 

Nice, didn't know why the P-47 was called "Razorback"

 

 

Looks like the correct term is "raised turtledeck"

Edited November 16, 2016 by SuperEtendard

[Danziger]

I have to say I'm loving this new Yak. It's prettier than the older one. That 12.7mm gun makes a lot of difference. Better view apart from directly forward. Is it enough to dethrone the MiG-3 as my favourite aircraft? I'm not sure yet. Expect some Yak-1b skins from me when they make the template available.

[Feathered_IV]

Nice, didn't know why the P-47 was called "Razorback"

 

 

I think the name originally comes from a breed of pig.  Not very flattering for the P-47 though.

[Gambit21]

I guess about as flattering as "Jug" 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

New Yak is trollolo :-) 

 

Never had so much fun against 109s on berloga )  - 3 109s crashed and blow up trying to pull up from spiral dive chase, next 2 ended the same trying to get on my tail in tight turns (5:0 - without one shot ) LOL !

 

Any way 109 need to be used to it strength against new Yak, he turns on dime, do not suffer from high speed, has great rear view, graceful stall  and 109 with stabiliser abuse can't  stay long at his tail. Almost forgot - the guns!

 

I for see lots of luftwinners to show up.

 

 

Have fun becouse this won't last

 

uploading pictures

Edited November 16, 2016 by 307_Tomcat

[Feathered_IV]

Brilliant screenshot.  All those virtual-German eagles are presumably swooping down to tell you their feelings on the matter. 

[JG13_opcode]

I fly mostly Luftwaffe but oh man, the bubbletop Yaks are SO SEXY.

 

Mmmmmmm

 

edit: seriously, god damn those are beautiful aircraft.  Can't wait for a Yak-9 and Yak-3 to appear.  One day.

Edited November 16, 2016 by JG13_opcode

[ShamrockOneFive]

Pretty excited to get to know this new fighter. The Yak-1B was by all rights an excellent aircraft, one well liked by its pilots, and many a Russian ace tried to hang on to their Yak-1B as long as possible so I'm guessing it'll put up a good fight!

[Finkeren]

Pretty excited to get to know this new fighter. The Yak-1B was by all rights an excellent aircraft, one well liked by its pilots, and many a Russian ace tried to hang on to their Yak-1B as long as possible so I'm guessing it'll put up a good fight!

Honestly. If you've flown the S. 69 you pretty much know it already. Only things to really get used to are the more effective (but more draggy) radiators, the spring loaded tailwheel lock and the slightly more restricted view forward. Everything else, the improved rear view, the extra speed and the more powerful armament follows naturally.

[Moochy_Gandalf]

So then forget those Fokker's we are going to have the Yakovlev scourge.

 

I can see it all now.

 

[150GCT_Veltro]

Yak-1b cockpit and 3D model are stunning.

 

We need more DLC.

[Moochy_Gandalf]

Yak-1b cockpit and 3D model are stunning.

 

Have to agree.

 

 

We need more DLC.

 

Yes indeed. G6 maybe?

Edited November 16, 2016 by Moochy_Gandalf

[303_Kwiatek]

What is speed Yak1B at high alt?  I mean e.x. 6 km? ( IAS/TAS in autumn map? )

[von_Tom]

So long as it isn' a flying tank like the other VVS crates.

 

von Tom aka Luftwhiner

[Irgendjemand]

New Yak is trollolo :-) 

 

Never had so much fun against 109s on berloga )  - 3 109s crashed and blow up trying to pull up from spiral dive chase, next 2 ended the same trying to get on my tail in tight turns (5:0 - without one shot ) LOL !

 

Any way 109 need to be used to it strength against new Yak, he turns on dime, do not suffer from high speed, has great rear view, graceful stall  and 109 with stabiliser abuse can't  stay long at his tail. Almost forgot - the guns!

 

I for see lots of luftwinners to show up.

 

 

Have fun becouse this won't last

 

uploading pictures

EDIT: No point. Have fun while there are still people to LOL at....

An no, I am not one of those 109s. Its shelved for me since a while. Just no fun.

Edited November 16, 2016 by Irgendjemand