Game version 2.005 discussion: Yak-1(b) series 127

[216th_Jordan]

Only a problem with cold engine. It doesn't start in the summer. Pilot doesn't set throttle to 15% like laGG-3 (same engine)

 

Although engine is the same the levers may work differently, just saying. In the LaGG you need to push the lever way more forward for the same throttle, however 0% seems a little odd to me, but could just as well be correct.

 

Just tested, for me it starts with 2nd try.

Edited November 18, 2016 by 216th_Jordan

[Boaty-McBoatface]

Although engine is the same the levers may work differently, just saying. In the LaGG you need to push the lever way more forward for the same throttle, however 0% seems a little odd to me, but could just as well be correct.

Original series 69 yak is same M-105PF engine too mate. It's set to 15%

Edited November 18, 2016 by B0SS

[[VF-84]Karetaker]

S! friends. I am still quite new to BoS and I fly mostly the Yak and La-5. I tried the Yak-127 some last night and found it quite impressive. I do have a question: is it possible to very the flap setting? IE, I can only manage flaps up or flaps full down...nothing in between. It is the same for the La-5...all or none.

 

Any assistance would be appreciated.

 

FWIW, I use the X52 Pro.

[hotshotmike1001]

thank you for the update    and  Thank you for the Yak-1B   i dont  use  russian planes much now the YAK is one of my Fav Russian Planes   and the LA  rocks as well  

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

S! friends. I am still quite new to BoS and I fly mostly the Yak and La-5. I tried the Yak-127 some last night and found it quite impressive. I do have a question: is it possible to very the flap setting? IE, I can only manage flaps up or flaps full down...nothing in between. It is the same for the La-5...all or none.

 

Any assistance would be appreciated.

 

FWIW, I use the X52 Pro.

 

Not every flap configuration offered fine angle adjustment - I believe that the flaps on both of these models were full up or full down - airspeed would have adjusted the angles and I think I've even read that pilots allowed airflow to close the flaps much of the time.

[LukeFF]

I do have a question: is it possible to very the flap setting? IE, I can only manage flaps up or flaps full down...nothing in between. It is the same for the La-5...all or none.

 

You should be able to vary the flap position on the La-5. On the Yak, no.

Edited November 19, 2016 by LukeFF

[=CFC=Conky]

Hello all,

 

The patch went smoothly for me but the contrast seems a bit off now, making it hard to see the runway against the snow. I've lowered the gamma correction to the lowest level and it has helped a bit but it still looks a bit off to me.

 

The Yak-1b is delightful to fly .

 

Well done devs.

 

Conky

[Boaty-McBoatface]

Did anyone submit an actual bug report?

 

I'll put one in the 'bug fix' forum in case they missed the comments in this thread.

 

Good work sir. ~S 

[IckyATLAS]

I have an issue. The Yak 1B does not appear as a flyable plane in the plane list (quick missions). But it does appear and can be selected in the list of the enemy planes.

I understood that the Yak  1B is flyable. I have no other issues with 2.005.

Any help is welcome

[216th_Jordan]

I have an issue. The Yak 1B does not appear as a flyable plane in the plane list (quick missions). But it does appear and can be selected in the list of the enemy planes.

I understood that the Yak 1B is flyable. I have no other issues with 2.005.

Any help is welcome

Hey Icky, it is a separate collector plane, you need to buy it first.

[BlackSix]

I have an issue. The Yak 1B does not appear as a flyable plane in the plane list (quick missions). But it does appear and can be selected in the list of the enemy planes.

I understood that the Yak  1B is flyable. I have no other issues with 2.005.

Any help is welcome

Yak-1b is a new Collector plane, you've to buy it in our store if you want to fly this plane in the game

[novicebutdeadly]

Tried to load up the game but I get a message to update to the latest version.

I did the large one a few days ago and after restarting everything worked fine,

I tried to do the patch update but since the down load didn't seem to be starting I stopped it thinking I would do this later..... (famous last words...)
 

Clearly I've done something wrong, do I need to re-install the whole game, or how do I get the game to download the patch (I don't use steam, just the standard launcher).

 

Edited November 19, 2016 by novicebutdeadly

[216th_Jordan]

Tried to load up the game but I get a message to update to the latest version.

 

I did the large one a few days ago and after restarting everything worked fine,

 

I tried to do the patch update but since the down load didn't seem to be starting I stopped it thinking I would do this later..... (famous last words...)

 

Clearly I've done something wrong, do I need to re-install the whole game, or how do I get the game to download the patch (I don't use steam, just the standard launcher).

You can delete the update folder. the restart it again. Just to be sure: Make a backup of all the files mentioned in sneaksies post.

[PantsPilot]

QUOTE "in spite of Soviet plexiglass quality being inferior to German or American materials." UNQUOTE

 

This comment (in the context of winter 1942-43 WWII aviation history) concerns me somewhat regarding the future of any GB content in this series of allegedly historical combat flight sims. Were the RAF flying open cockpit biplanes at that time or something? In actual fact the RAF were operating the most potent allied fighter in the superb Spitfire IX (1942), and yes it had a cockpit!    

 

I don't know whether it's accidental, commercial or just pure revisionism or something else, but WWII in the air, for the years 1939-45, seemed somewhat distorted in the original il-2 - both by the original devs and TD since, it was left to the modder's to redress the obvious historical inbalance and actually recreate history as it was - like adding the griffon engine Spitfire XIV that the devs of that game conveniently buried presumably because it was so good? Now after reading this I'm concerned that as a sequel this sad trend may continue...

 

Please remember an awful lot of nationalities flew with the RAF, it wasn't just Brits.

 

 

[216th_Jordan]

QUOTE "in spite of Soviet plexiglass quality being inferior to German or American materials." UNQUOTE

 

This comment (in the context of winter 1942-43 WWII aviation history) concerns me somewhat regarding the future of any GB content in this series of allegedly historical combat flight sims. Were the RAF flying open cockpit biplanes at that time or something? In actual fact the RAF were operating the most potent allied fighter in the superb Spitfire IX (1942), and yes it had a cockpit!    

 

 

What are you saying? What have RAF planes and their cockpits got to do with russian planes' perspex?

[Jade_Monkey]

Hmmm... What??

[Boaty-McBoatface]

QUOTE "in spite of Soviet plexiglass quality being inferior to German or American materials." UNQUOTE

 

This comment (in the context of winter 1942-43 WWII aviation history) concerns me somewhat regarding the future of any GB content in this series of allegedly historical combat flight sims.

 

What a load of codswallop. Please son, just stop waving your bloody flag about and put it down. England is great. Edited November 19, 2016 by B0SS

[ShamrockOneFive]

QUOTE "in spite of Soviet plexiglass quality being inferior to German or American materials." UNQUOTE

 

This comment (in the context of winter 1942-43 WWII aviation history) concerns me somewhat regarding the future of any GB content in this series of allegedly historical combat flight sims. Were the RAF flying open cockpit biplanes at that time or something? In actual fact the RAF were operating the most potent allied fighter in the superb Spitfire IX (1942), and yes it had a cockpit!    

 

I don't know whether it's accidental, commercial or just pure revisionism or something else, but WWII in the air, for the years 1939-45, seemed somewhat distorted in the original il-2 - both by the original devs and TD since, it was left to the modder's to redress the obvious historical inbalance and actually recreate history as it was - like adding the griffon engine Spitfire XIV that the devs of that game conveniently buried presumably because it was so good? Now after reading this I'm concerned that as a sequel this sad trend may continue...

 

Please remember an awful lot of nationalities flew with the RAF, it wasn't just Brits.

 

 

 

BTW: The Devs didn't bury the Spitfire XIV. Two Spitfire models, the V and the IX, were done by one third party modeler, the Seafire III and the Spitfire VIII were done by another modeler. Two additional modelers tried to build a F.XIV and a FR.XIV and both of them dropped the ball/lost interest. The only reason we had Spitfires in that game was because of third party people working with the original devs. There was no attempt to bury anything - infact they really wanted to add the XIV.

[L3Pl4K]

After some hours of playing:

-make the life of cheaters more difficult.  

-Some bugs are fixed, and no hotfix,quality of game evolution increase constantly  

-Quality of Panzerbar your aircraft skins are great, you really have talent. The devs should impliment, your own exclusive skins in the game.

 

Keep it up

[[VF-84]Karetaker]

S! Thanks for the replies to my flap question. I will revisit my key/button mapping and see if I can get fine control of flaps on the LA-5.  Another YAK-127 question: is there a skin template we can use to make custom skins as is available for the Yak-69? I made a skin for the -69, but that skin does not "fit" the -127, so I need a template to start from scratch.

 

Thanks again for the assistance.

[Bando]

S! Thanks for the replies to my flap question. I will revisit my key/button mapping and see if I can get fine control of flaps on the LA-5. 

 

Here's where you need to look at in the LA5 for the flap settings:

 

Edited November 19, 2016 by Bando

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

 

-Quality of Panzerbar your aircraft skins are great, you really have talent. The devs should implement*, your own exclusive skins in the game.

 

Keep it up

fixed it also.*

 

I guess you missed the memo, they are using his skins. on the G2 and E-7.

 

"We continue working together with community member I./ZG1_Panzerbar and in version 2.005 we include some corrected official historical skins of the Bf-109 E-7 and Bf-109 G-2. Be sure to check them out - they turned out to be great. Aircraft skin makers in Russia work in some brutal conditions!"  

 

 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2016 by 71st_AH_Mastiff

[L3Pl4K]

 

 

I guess you missed the memo, they are using his skins. on the G2 and E-7.

You misunderstood me, I said he should get exclusive personal skins.

[Gavrick]

Original series 69 yak is same M-105PF engine too mate. It's set to 15%

 

Same engine, but another airscrew. ViSH-61 at 69 series, and ViSH-105 at 127 series. That airscrew has different in blade angle limits. ViSH-61 with M-105PF can not reach nominal RPM (2700) while airplane stay on ground or have small speed (V=0...80 km/h), but ViSH-105 can. And ViSH-105 have more thrust at that low speeds range. With 15% throttle Yak-1 s127 start taxiing while startup procedure.

[Bando]

Thanks Gavrick.

It still does not explain why the engine starts in all conditions in one go, but on the summer Stalingrad map one has to start it several times.

[No601_Swallow]

Thanks Gavrick.

It still does not explain why the engine starts in all conditions in one go, but on the summer Stalingrad map one has to start it several times.

 

[i have not experienced this. For me, it starts normally on the Stalingrad summer map every time.]

Edited November 20, 2016 by No601_Swallow

[Bando]

I should have said that this occurs only with a cold engine start.

[novicebutdeadly]

You can delete the update folder. the restart it again. Just to be sure: Make a backup of all the files mentioned in sneaksies post.

Much appreciated, all updated :-)

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

You misunderstood me, I said he should get exclusive personal skins.

yes completely

[GridiroN]

I can't get the Yak to turn on from a cold start. If you press "e" for engine starts, the prop catches and then disengages and the pilot turns the plane off again...?

No it's not mixture as that is set in the start-up sequence.

 

It doesn't start in the summer as there's a bug with the start-up sequence. The throttle sets to 0% instead of 15% like laGG-3 and series 69 yak. This is same M105PF engine so it should be the same.

 

I should have said that this occurs only with a cold engine start.

Multiple people are having this issue, although as far as I can tell, it doesn't start ever. The pilot sets the throttle to 0 when he should have set it to 15% and the engine fails before player input is accepted.

[Bando]

Well, Gavrick explained why the throttle should NOT be at 15%. There's another propellor attached to this engine.

What remains to be explained is the fact that the cold (I say again: COLD) engine starts every single time at once, except for the Stalingrad summer map. There you have to start it 2 or more times for it to run.

[Lusekofte]

Then I would say Stalingrad is the most realistic one.....

Is this really a big problem ? 

 

Put it in another way, how do you like it to be, that the engine starts at first attempt (unrealistic due to many factors) Randomly at first attempt? 

[Matt]

Well, if 15% throttle is too much and 0% is too little, maybe something like 5%-10% throttle might help here.

[Bando]

Then I would say Stalingrad is the most realistic one.....

Is this really a big problem ? 

 

Put it in another way, how do you like it to be, that the engine starts at first attempt (unrealistic due to many factors) Randomly at first attempt? 

 

Oh, I agree there, no problem at all. It's just odd and not planned (as being something random), for it happens on one map only.

 

Does not really matter though, for in the end, after some tries, the engine does start.

[GridiroN]

Then I would say Stalingrad is the most realistic one.....

Is this really a big problem ? 

 

Put it in another way, how do you like it to be, that the engine starts at first attempt (unrealistic due to many factors) Randomly at first attempt?

No, it's a bug. Not a feature. If it was a feature, the engine would not start up on other maps in other scenarios. I'd be ok if it was a realistic feature of the plane, that the engine didn't catch the first time, but that's not what's going on. The pilot turns the engine on. It doesn't catch. The pilot turns the engine off. If the engine simply didn't catch, he'd re-try without turning the accoutrements off.

Edited November 20, 2016 by GridiroN

[Boaty-McBoatface]

Gavrick that's great info, thanks for that.

 

It's a bug, there's no 2 ways about it. Airplane should start in summer. No point in pretending for it to be a feature. Also, I find it doesn't start in summer no matter the restarts.

Edited November 20, 2016 by B0SS

[wtornado]

The "b" prefix was unofficial name given by the Yakovlev Design Bureau but this name wasn't used in the official documents. These planes were called just Yak-1 with indication of number of the series.

Very interesting facts about the planes designation.

 

fixed it also.*

 

I guess you missed the memo, they are using his skins. on the G2 and E-7.

 

"We continue working together with community member I./ZG1_Panzerbar and in version 2.005 we include some corrected official historical skins of the Bf-109 E-7 and Bf-109 G-2. Be sure to check them out - they turned out to be great. Aircraft skin makers in Russia work in some brutal conditions!"  

 

panzarbar.jpg

 

 

Very nice.

Same engine, but another airscrew. ViSH-61 at 69 series, and ViSH-105 at 127 series. That airscrew has different in blade angle limits. ViSH-61 with M-105PF can not reach nominal RPM (2700) while airplane stay on ground or have small speed (V=0...80 km/h), but ViSH-105 can. And ViSH-105 have more thrust at that low speeds range. With 15% throttle Yak-1 s127 start taxiing while startup procedure.

Another interesting tidbit of information.

 

Keep up the good work.

 

 

My BOM Christmas special should be kicking in soon.  

[Lusekofte]

Oh, I agree there, no problem at all. It's just odd and not planned (as being something random), for it happens on one map only.

 

Does not really matter though, for in the end, after some tries, the engine does start.

 

OK you where looking for why it occurs on one map only. I have misfires in PE 2 quite frequent , and sometimes the Mixture go back to zero when throttle up . I never put any thought into it, it is obviously bugged some places. I was just wondering your preferences in the matter

[IckyATLAS]

Yak-1b is a new Collector plane, you've to buy it in our store if you want to fly this plane in the game

 

Thanks. Done. Bought all. Now all is ok. Fine plane, nice to fly. Waiting now for the "Alte Tante JU" to be activated.

[Pruciak]

Is the plane worth it? Can i fly it in bos/bom campaign? Mayby I should wait for 7b in bok? Will there be a black friday sale?