crew models creep me out - any way to remove them?

[Pontov]

I love this sim and RoF, but in both games the crew models creep me out. They are well-modeled but still ... zombies. Is there any way to remove them from the airplanes? For instance, in Flightgear one can just delete the folder named Pilot.

[Finkeren]

CTRL-E

[J2_Trupobaw]

In RoF, I recommend Mauser. 

[Pontov]

Good cockpit humor.

 

So I guess there is no way to get rid of crew models?

 

Here is one I could live without:

 

[ShamrockOneFive]

Just be thankful they aren't Friday Night at Freddy's! 

 

They are coming to get you...

[Pontov]

I'd rather fly without him as well. Bad luck. I always get shot down when he is in the cabin:

 

[Monostripezebra]

Just be thankful they aren't Friday Night at Freddy's! 

 

They are coming to get you...

 

Paid superdiamondpremium DLC: "Five nights at Freddies Junk Junkers" where you have to fly night sorties as Ju-88 gunner and shine flaslights into the other crews faces to not get eaten by them is confirmed for next Helloween, though.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

I'd rather fly without him as well. Bad luck. I always get shot down when he is in the cabin:

 

Hahaha

 

Just look forward and try to forget about him. Not much else you can do.

Not fond of their zombieness either, but the ghost manned turrets from the old IL2 creeps me even more.

Like does the dumb looking copilots of CloD.

 

Now what we can suggest to the devs is a gore mod, where if one gets killed it repaints the heinkel's canopy with internals. 

 

On a side note I don't remember having seen one of them lying dead at the bombardier's position. Is that implemented in the game ?

Edited November 12, 2016 by F/JG300_Gruber

[Danziger]

What I think is weird is that you can see everyone apart from "yourself" like nobody is flying the plane.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Paid superdiamondpremium DLC: "Five nights at Freddies Junk Junkers" where you have to fly night sorties as Ju-88 gunner and shine flaslights into the other crews faces to not get eaten by them is confirmed for next Helloween, though.

 

LOL that's too good!! Love it!

[kestrel79]

Actually think they look pretty good in this sim, the best is in Warthunder in the Kate torp bomber the guy in the 3rd seat just has this odd looking face on him that is pretty creepy, makes me laugh every time haha.

[SvAF/F19_Tomten]

What..? The crews in BoS look very human. However, in DCS Gazelle, the co-pilot look like he has lost his soul. I mean... look at those dead eyes! The stuff of nightmares! :D

 

[Feathered_IV]

Ha! Looks like he just remembered he left the bath running.

[gn728]

Hah - they could modify Orders/CtrlE - have an order to tell the crew to jump - right now it looks like the AC commander bails first and everyone else follows...

[YoYo]

I really love the crew in BoS/BoM. Very well modelled:

 

[Cybermat47]

Ask someone from the other team to remove them.

[MAJ_stug41]

 

On a side note I don't remember having seen one of them lying dead at the bombardier's position. Is that implemented in the game ?

 

A few days ago the front guy in my Ju88 was killed and spent the rest of the flight slumped over his position.

[Feathered_IV]

I wish I could look back and see a lady manning operating the gun in my Peshka.

[J2_Trupobaw]

I wish I could look back and see a lady manning operating the gun in my Peshka.

Manning womanizing operating?

 

It's one of few redeeming features of Aerofly FS...

[YoYo]

I wish I could look back and see a lady manning operating the gun in my Peshka.

 

+ voices....

[Danziger]

+ being able to see your own body.

[Trooper117]

lol, we have some of the best modelled crew in any flight sim, and people want to get rid of them?

[Yogiflight]

I agree with Borys, I don't like seeing an empty seat, when I look down and a stick moving from ghosthands. Give us a pilot figure, to make this sim look much more realistic.

[Danziger]

I agree with Borys, I don't like seeing an empty seat, when I look down and a stick moving from ghosthands. Give us a pilot figure, to make this sim look much more realistic.

Or at least give us the option to toggle them on or off like WT and DCS. Some people prefer no bodies but others do.

[seafireliv]

My biggest graphic gripe is seeing no pilot shadow when the cockpit shadow comes around. Just feels really strange, like I`m a ghost.

[AndyJWest]

What..? The crews in BoS look very human. However, in DCS Gazelle, the co-pilot look like he has lost his soul. I mean... look at those dead eyes! The stuff of nightmares! :D

 

 

To be fair, I think I'd look the same if I'd had the top of the cyclic stick come off in my hand.  

 

Seriously though it is extremely difficult to model human bodies (and particularly faces) convincingly - we have evolved to study them intensely for clues to internal states, and the closer they get to the uncanny valley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley) the more minor discrepancies become 'creepy' rather than just irritating. 

[GridiroN]

I think it'd be more creepy and unrealistic to be flying a bomber around with no one in it while it's levers and guns fire mysteriously...

[bzc3lk]

To be fair, I think I'd look the same if I'd had the top of the cyclic stick come off in my hand.  

 

 

 

 That is not the cyclic stick. He controls target selection and weapon deployment.

[Finkeren]

+ being able to see your own body.

Combined with anatomically correct female pilot models, this might be too much of a distraction for me and might negatively impact my flying

[von_Greiff]

What..? The crews in BoS look very human. However, in DCS Gazelle, the co-pilot look like he has lost his soul. I mean... look at those dead eyes! The stuff of nightmares! :D

 

 

 

...think he shoot a little to much of these GO-pills!...lolololol

 

yours

v.Greiff

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

Me, Boris and Ivan, I'm rocking the porn stash!

But the guy in the Gazelle? Yep creepy. There is some key trick you can do to make him pull down his visor but I forgot it so I get stared at. I'm one for not seeing the pilots body..sometimes it gets in the way of seeing a gauge.

[VBF-12_Stele]

Somewhere at 777 Studios, there is a crew modeler crying in a corner as they read this.

[1./KG4_Blackwolf]

Nah, most of the creepy ones are from DCS not 777.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Ok, everything is fine, the other one was lying dead on the heinkel's sofa last night  

 

Thanks for posting that gazelle pilot picture though, the guys we have in our crates feels much more friendly compared to him !

[Gambit21]

Hehe - Uncanny Valley definitely avoided there.

[Gambit21]

It's becsuse the 3D tools get so close, the closer you get without getting ALL THE WAY there = uncanny valley.

 

It happens on multiple levels aside from broad strokes of the animation. Skin texture, translucence/subsurface scattering...muscle twitches, micro-expressions...things we don't realize we're picking up on.

Edited November 20, 2016 by Gambit21

[Feathered_IV]

The ones that really freak me out are the shrunken heads of the RAF pilots in Cliffs of Dover.  They look like extras from that horrible movie, Beetlejuice.