Happy election day to the US community

[Jason_Williams]

Our elections have become about personalities and not issues. Until the roof collapses, which it's hard to imagine how it can get worse, we will continue to be sidetracked by stupid shit and pay a huge price later. We are so horribly divided it's scary to think what might happen a little further down the road. The seeds are already planted. I love my country, but it's in long-term trouble no matter who is president. Buy more copuies of BOS please so I can finish my bunker. :-)

 

Jason

[DD_Arthur]

 Buy more copuies of BOS please so I can finish my bunker. :-)

 

Jason

 

Big lol  .    You know I was going to post a big long thing about the US election, Brexit and the state of the world.....but I just can't be arsed.   I think I'll just fire up BoS and rocket the crap out of some poor, unsuspecting train instead.

 

Ah.....much better......

[Danziger]

Our elections have become about personalities and not issues. Until the roof collapses, which it's hard to imagine how it can get worse, we will continue to be sidetracked by stupid shit and pay a huge price later. We are so horribly divided it's scary to think what might happen a little further down the road. The seeds are already planted. I love my country, but it's in long-term trouble no matter who is president. Buy more copuies of BOS please so I can finish my bunker. :-)

 

Jason

Exactly. It's all just another form of "entertainment" now. Watching election coverage may as well be watching Entertainment Tonight or reading stupid Hollywood tabloids.

 

It's the culture these days. Being ignorant is something people are proud of for some reason.

[Falco_Peregrinus]

Always thought that democracy is, well, overrated.

But, at the same time, I still think about studying Tocqueville during my wonderful university times whenever I think about the US of A in these circumstances.
And, well, to be honest, while remembering about my studies, I actually still wonder more about that blonde beautiful girl who I had a crush on though... (and was too afraid to ask her out, stupid me)
 

 

Edited November 8, 2016 by Avgvstvs

[=362nd_FS=RoflSeal]

I think at the last minute so many people will choke on the idea of voting for a woman that they will end up handing their country to an oafish autocrat with no respect for the principles of democracy.

As if Hillary has any principles except whoring herself to Wall St and the Gulf States.

 

Trump became rich by building a company hiring thousands of people

Hillary became rich by selling America's secrets.

Edited November 8, 2016 by RoflSeal

[6./ZG26_Emil]

As if Hillary has any principles except whoring herself to Wall St and the Gulf States.

 

Trump became rich by building a company hiring thousands of people

Hillary became rich by selling America's secrets.

 

and the latter has a high IQ

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Either choice is bad, dont see a point in arguing here about who is lesser evil guys. Frankly I'm happy that I dont have to make a choice, though I regret participating in last year Parliament elections in Poland which left us with some weird situation. 

It seems that for some reason its becoming popular to send weird and bad people forward for representatives, as if there werent enough good people around. 

[6./ZG26_Emil]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/730129/Julian-Assange-defends-Hilary-Clinton-emails-WikiLeaks-no-dirt-Donald-Trump

 

:D

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Not so sure about the foreign policy Meister. Mainly Clinton supports heavy intervention in Syria and ultimately changing the government (as if the lessons learned in Iraq in 2003 and Afghanistan back in the 1980s went straight out of the window), and above all she wants to paint Russia as the enemy of America and of Europe too. Trump on the other hand wants to join forces with Russia to tackle the Syria problem, which to me is more sensible.

 

Of course, neither have a track record of delivering on promises and being consistent, but if their campaign is anything to go by a Clinton foreign policy would be a disaster for Europe and the Middle East. The EU-Russia pissing contest would keep going, both parties would continue to suffer economically and the Baltic trio of minnows would keep saying they are about to be invaded by big mean Russia and urgently need more tanks and more troops and more aircraft to be parked there for no good reason.

 

I'm no experienced diplomat but I know that stationing troops and military equipment has never really helps calm tensions - on the opposite, it always leads to endless escalation. It gets tiring to be in Europe and constantly have to hear scaremongering about evil Russia driving all the way to Portugal.

 

Right now we need a calming influence between the US and Russia. Though Trump is a complete loose cannon, it is very much certain that Clinton will push (who knows if successfully or not) for bigger antagonism with Russia, and more involvement in the Middle East, no least due to her Saudi connections who would love to see Assad gone.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Not so sure about the foreign policy Meister. Mainly Clinton supports heavy intervention in Syria and ultimately changing the government (as if the lessons learned in Iraq in 2003 and Afghanistan back in the 1980s went straight out of the window), and above all she wants to paint Russia as the enemy of America and of Europe too. Trump on the other hand wants to join forces with Russia to tackle the Syria problem, which to me is more sensible.

 

Of course, neither have a track record of delivering on promises and being consistent, but if their campaign is anything to go by a Clinton foreign policy would be a disaster for Europe and the Middle East. The EU-Russia pissing contest would keep going, both parties would continue to suffer economically and the Baltic trio of minnows would keep saying they are about to be invaded by big mean Russia and urgently need more tanks and more troops and more aircraft to be parked there for no good reason.

 

I'm no experienced diplomat but I know that stationing troops and military equipment has never really helps calm tensions - on the opposite, it always leads to endless escalation. It gets tiring to be in Europe and constantly have to hear scaremongering about evil Russia driving all the way to Portugal.

 

Right now we need a calming influence between the US and Russia. Though Trump is a complete loose cannon, it is very much certain that Clinton will push (who knows if successfully or not) for bigger antagonism with Russia, and more involvement in the Middle East, no least due to her Saudi connections who would love to see Assad gone.

 

 

Well said...sorry I have no more up votes lol

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

How long till its over ?

 

Make sure you're prepared  

[Tektolnes]

RIP the Republican party if Clinton wins. Trump is going to go to town on the GOP establishment if he loses and it'll be a bloodbath. Used to be a fine conservative party and looking at what they've been reduced to is incredible. They've put forward literally the worst candidate I've ever seen a major party in a developed democratic society nominate. He has basically no redeeming characteristics whatsoever and would make a terrible president. And there's no way back for them given demographic trends in the US unless they drastically change their approach. And they brought it all upon themselves at the end of the day by allowing the crazies in their party to dominate the message and drag them down a road that they knew they couldn't afford to go down.

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

For the vintage types, there is also an RCAF Anson if Air Canada seats run out

 

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Border patrols might be necessary

[No_85_Gramps]

Some very interesting reading in this thread. I've always been somewhat amazed with how Europeans show interest in, and are quite knowledgeable, about politics on this side of the pond. Perhaps if our own population took that much interest we wouldn't be in the mess we are.

[SOLIDKREATE]

It's a process we hold dear and have shed blood over.

 

 

[Gambit21]

I've been a sort of "Democrat" my entire adult life, but still always held some conservative views, pro-military as well as other things.

To be most accurate, I'm an issue by issue person, not D or R, Liberal or Conservative...though registered as a Dem.

 

I did vote for all Dems until this election, I was a delegate for Obama...because I always thought I knew what was going on in years past. My bad. I was fooled.

 

The Clintons are part of the same syndicate the Bush's are...the Clintons are gangsters in every way the world applies...and worse.

Obama is at least aware, if not part of it...again, I was a delegate for the guy. If I'd only known then what I know now.

It's absolutely sickening what they've done, and likely will continue to do. The power they wield is disturbing, to put it lightly.

I'm not going to get into it here, no point. There's plenty of links and sources if one really wants to research what our government really is,

and who really runs it...and what they've been doing. It's been that way for a long time it seems. 

 

I voted for Trump not because I think he's a good candidate, he's made a joke of himself in many ways, and of the Republican party, but I know who DOESN'T own him, and that would be a start at least.

 

I will never again after what I've learned identify as either a Dem or Rep, liberal or conservative.

I just want the good guys to win, and they are on both sides, just as the evil doers are on both sides. 

If you flipped a switch and burned each one...our entire government would disappear more or less.

Sad, scary...hopeless? No...there are good forces at work too. I just hope they prevail eventually.

 

I will not be fooled anymore...I'm awake.

 I've always been somewhat amazed with how Europeans show interest in, and are quite knowledgeable, about politics on this side of the pond. Perhaps if our own population took that much interest we wouldn't be in the mess we are.

 

Exactly - our population can't be bothered for the most part.

They know who our leaders our, what's going on over here.

 

Ask 10 Americans who runs Canada and see what happens.

 

Turn on the BBC News for an hour, then turn on CNN for an hour and you'll see a stark difference...that's part of the problem.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Gambit21

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

 

So it begins ...

[Gambit21]

Heh - I'm a few miles from the border - give me a chance to make it over

[TheBlackPenguin]

Our elections have become about personalities and not issues. Until the roof collapses, which it's hard to imagine how it can get worse, we will continue to be sidetracked by stupid shit and pay a huge price later. We are so horribly divided it's scary to think what might happen a little further down the road. The seeds are already planted. I love my country, but it's in long-term trouble no matter who is president. Buy more copuies of BOS please so I can finish my bunker. :-)

 

Jason

 

I'm sure you'll get help from those close by in Southern CA for that bunker if need be lol . 

[unreasonable]

 

So it begins ...

 

I would have thought that cutting off Mexico would be more like it! 

[DD_Arthur]

What I want to know is how many of you American guys voted to legalise weed today?

[Gambit21]

Already legal here in Wa state

[Cybermat47]

 

So it begins ...

They're still attached to America, though. Look west

[Mastermariner]

To sum it up..

 

 

Millenium generation are coming. lets hope they will demand better

 

Master

[unreasonable]

Alternatively:

 

 

 

 

[Gambit21]

Yeah Master, the generation that can't look up from their stupid phones, even when sitting next to each other in a restaurant will save us! Please.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Gambit21

[-WILD-AlbinoHA5E]

[ShamrockOneFive]

Yeah Master, the generation that can't look up from their stupid phones, even when sitting next to each other in a restaurant will save us! Please.

 

I'd encourage folks to learn a little bit about what the millennial generation represents on the whole and in actuality instead of what we've been called repeatedly and incorrectly. Yeah there's some silly in every generation but we may not be what you think we are.

 

Really good article I read not that long ago here: https://bornagainminimalist.com/2016/10/17/the-gaslighting-of-millennials/

[-WILD-AlbinoHA5E]

It's gonna be Trump. F Yeah!!!

[Feathered_IV]

Y'all gone get that beg wall cross mexco!

[Mastermariner]

Live

https://www.rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/

 

master

[Cybermat47]

Yeah Master, the generation that can't look up from their stupid phones, even when sitting next to each other in a restaurant will save us! Please.

I found a photograph of some "useless millenials"

 

[-WILD-AlbinoHA5E]

Young Turk's Cenk has gone from Brown to White, he is pissed. Ana has completely Shut Up.

Milo Yiannopolous is celebrating, and God only knows how many black men will be pleased by it.

 

Can't wait for Kyle Kulinski to react. He kinde predicted a Trump Victory.

 

CNN sucks, Young Turks suck, 4 Drunken, Fat, Stoned pieces of Garbage RULE! Go Drunken Peasants.

 

It's [Edited] Insane.

Edited November 9, 2016 by CuteKitten94

[Gambit21]

Don't take it personally Shamy, there are always people who don't fit the stereotype, I make no assumptions about any individual. That said I know what I see every day.

Peace

[BraveSirRobin]

Never been happier about not having any money in the stock market. It is going to get ugly.

[Gambit21]

Yep - some things are going to go down.

[BraveSirRobin]

I found a photograph of some "useless millenials"

There is probably nothing more useless than young men obediently marching in formation.

[Gambit21]

We're all more the same than we are different - always a good thing to remember on days like this.

[6./ZG26_Emil]

Trump has already won....tomorrow the 'pundits' will all be in shock. Many polls were rigged and weighted to undersample certain demographics.

 

told you all :D