How do you take off in the FW190

[timothy55]

Can anybody help?

 

Every time I take off in the FW190 Iam always a burning wreck at the other end of the runway.

 

How do you take off in the FW190 properly?

[LukeFF]

You need to make sure you are pulling the stick back during your initial takeoff roll, as that's the way the tailwheel is locked.

[Bando]

See this :

 

- Airplane has a manually controlled horizontal stabilizer which is electrically-actuated. It should be set to +1.5° before takeoff and landing. Also, it may be used to trim the flight stick during the flight. In a deep dive the stabilizer should be set so that the pilot must push the flight stick forward to maintain the dive angle.
- Airplane has electrically-actuated landing flaps with three fixed positions: retracted, takeoff (13°) and landing (58°). Flaps control buttons and indicator lights are located on left panel near the throttle. The flap angle may also be checked by indicators on the left and right wing outside the cockpit.
- Airplane has a tail wheel lock system which locks the tail wheel if the flight-stick is pulled backward. The tailwheel should be locked when taxiing straight for a long distance, before takeoff and after touchdown upon landing.
- Airplane has independent left and right hydraulic wheel brake controls. To apply either brake push the upper part of the rudder pedal.

 

Taken from: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/25993-aircraft-flight-and-technical-specifications-and-operational/?view=getlastpost

[Demon_]

Pull the stick (to lock the tail wheel) until you reach more than 120km/h, then push the stick to raise the tail. And pull the stick to take off.

 

When taxi, pull the stick to lock the tail wheel, push to unlock.

 

In the manual page 175: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-uSpZROuEd3WV9zRFRwMDJVWGc/view

Edited November 7, 2016 by Demon_

[JG13_opcode]

Can anybody help?

 

Every time I take off in the FW190 Iam always a burning wreck at the other end of the runway.

 

How do you take off in the FW190 properly?

 

The way I do it is:

 

Line up at the start of the runway, and give it just a little power to start rolling.

 

Close canopy, push throttle all the way forward to Emergency mode.  Use right-rudder to counteract torque.  When speed rises above 220 km/h, you can gently pull back on the stick, using the rudder to keep the wings level.

 

Works for me every single time.  I never bother with flaps unless I'm carrying ordnance.

 

After you're airborne, don't start to climb immediately.  Stay low and hug the treetops until your speed gets above 300 km/h, at which point the aircraft is much more stable.

Edited November 16, 2016 by JG13_opcode

[novicebutdeadly]

The way I do it is:

 

Line up at the start of the runway, and give it just a little power to start rolling.

 

Close canopy, push throttle all the way forward to Emergency mode.  Use right-rudder to counteract torque.  When speed rises above 220 km/h, you can gently pull back on the stick, using the rudder to keep the wings level.

 

Works for me every single time.  I never bother with flaps unless I'm carrying ordnance.

 

After you're airborne, don't start to climb immediately.  Stay low and hug the treetops until your speed gets above 300 km/h, at which point the aircraft is much more stable.

Even with flaps pulling back on the stick and any speed below 200-220km/h will only lead to one result which is the above mentioned burning wreck,

 

or my personal favorite scrapping both wing tips, and then having your ailerons fall off one at a time as you fly to the fight.... with the standard cursing that goes with that.

 

 

Any speed below 200-220 and you will stall straight away with the standard wing wobble/dipping leading to over correction which makes the situation even worse.

[JG13_opcode]

With flaps you can easily take off at 180 km/h if you are gentle.

[Jade_Monkey]

I line up with the runway, keep the stick pulled back to lock the tailwheel until im at 100 kph.

 

Max the throttle and gently pushing the right pedal to compensate and stay lined up.

The faster you go the smaller the pedal input you need. So carefully reduce the right pedal input as you gain speed.

 

At around 200 or 220 kph just gently pull the stick and retract gear. Works like a charm.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Jade that is exactly my technique. As long as the tailwheel is locked takeoffs are pretty straight forward in the Fw.

 

The OP should post a video if he needs more help.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Any speed below 200-220 and you will stall straight away with the standard wing wobble/dipping leading to over correction which makes the situation even worse.

If you have troubles flying the plane straight at 200-220km/h I suspect too harsh stick or rudder movements or maybe a too high sensitivity settings.

 

I'm using the same technique as Jade as well, with the flaps in take off position and never had any issues leaving the ground at 200km/h. Once thing he mention worth paying attention is that once the plane is off the ground, you have to reduce the rudder input slowly and softly. If you slam it to neutral all at once, you'll likely get into troubles.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

I just thought of something. The only time I get into trouble on the takeoff is when I forget (usually yapping on TS) to neutralize the elevator around 100 kph. If you don't the AC will try to lift and will roll pretty badly at 160 kph or so. This might be the problem. Without video all of the diagnoses are just guesswork.

 

I don't use flaps or push the stick forward beyond neutral. Once the rollout is around 200 use gentle back pressure on the stick and she should lift nicely.

[novicebutdeadly]

I just thought of something. The only time I get into trouble on the takeoff is when I forget (usually yapping on TS) to neutralize the elevator around 100 kph. If you don't the AC will try to lift and will roll pretty badly at 160 kph or so. This might be the problem. Without video all of the diagnoses are just guesswork.

 

I don't use flaps or push the stick forward beyond neutral. Once the rollout is around 200 use gentle back pressure on the stick and she should lift nicely.

That might be where I'm going wrong, I usually push the stick forward to get the tail up, and then pull back slightly once the tail is lifted.

 

I had done this previously without fail, but admittedly hadn't tried taking off since a couple patches, so I thought maybe something had changed but very few people mentioned the issue,

 

which is when I worked out that the problem was between the stick and the seat :-(

 

Maybe I should have paid attention when doing the conversion course from 109 to 190 :-)

[Sokol1]

If all fail, use the "Pibot" 

 

[=IRFC=TALLY]

My Logitech 3-D is the root of all evil with the 190 take off - rudder control is redicul!  So far its a nightmare, most of the time.  The other planes seem fine, 109, p40 all work well.

[Bremspropeller]

Takeoff is actually pretty easy:

 

- takeoff flaps aren't necessary, but you can use them

- pull back on the stick (I use full deflection, but about half will do as well) to lock the tailwheel

- apply right rudder (about half deflected)

- gun the throttle to max

- as soon as the lockable tailwheel locks into place, release right rudder to just the right amount to keep track

- at about 130-150kph gently release backpressure on the stick, but DON'T lower your nose

- let her gently fly off herself; no additional backpressure is required

- accelerate to 200 and retract gear and then flaps (around 220-250)

- voilà

 

If that becomes easy after a while, repeat the same in DCS and go back to square one ?

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

Why so slow there is no landing gear tyres or brake wear modeled ingame yet. (so there is little to no need to take off at the normal slow speed to save tyres and brakes. 

So unless you heading for trees Use up the entire runway without flaps and rotate at 220-250kph.
This means no transition from take off to flying just raise the gear and you can pull right into a steep climb.
This also means much more stable plane on take off like 2 seconds after wheels off ground while they coming up you can do a snap roll and brake if vulched.

The differences when you do lots of take offs matter.
Normal Take off,
1 Lower flaps, Set trim.
2 Take off roll rotate 180kph.
3 Raise gear and accel to 220 and raise flaps
4 Accel to 250kph now you flying stable config is clean.

Quick take off,
1 Set trim.
2 Take off roll rotate @ 220-240kph
3 Raise Gear now doing 250kph you flying stable config is clean.

Main reason planes IRL dont do this, Noise reduction, City terrain avoidance, Tyres and brake (L Gear Wear)

 

Edited July 23, 2018 by =TBAS=Sshadow14