Need help with aim problems

[VladTheSedater]

Hi guys,

 

I'm new to both IL-2 and flight sims in general. I have a thrustmaster HOTAS X stick and have been trying to do some campaign mission to get used to it. However, when comparing my own experience with the videos I watch, it is very different. When I am trying to get on target, my reticle seems to 'bounce' a lot even with only very small stick adjustments. I also seem to stall at the slightest of things where other planes of the same variety will turn on a penny.

 

This isn't the greatest example but here is a clip of what I mean by bouncy aim. Just can't ever seem to get a smooth flow regardless of how gentle I am with stick.

http://plays.tv/video/5813a072f4172c73d2/bouncy-aim

 

Regards

[curiousGamblerr]

A bunch of people are going to come in here and give you better advice than I could, but I can say one obvious thing: It takes a lot of practice. And not like practice for a few days like most casual games, but months. I've been playing the Il-2 franchise since I was a kid, and BoX for a year, and I'm still a terrible shot most days.

[9./JG27golani79]

I´m not the best shot but I´d suggest to keep your speed up - the slower you go the "jumpier" it gets in my opinion.

Don´t hang around behind the target - try to make a pass, go out and come back in again with speed.

 

It also helped me to set the convergence to 200m instead of the 400m at which it is set by default.

 

Maybe someone with the same / similiar stick could give you some advice on making a few adjustments for your axis settings (pitch, roll)

Edited October 28, 2016 by 9./JG27golani79

[VladTheSedater]

All good advice so far, thanks! Energy management is definitely more difficult (I come from war thunder - I know, I know) than previous game I played!

[Jade_Monkey]

I´m not the best shot but I´d suggest to keep your speed up - the slower you go the "jumpier" it gets in my opinion.

Don´t hang around behind the target - try to make a pass, go out and come back in again with speed.

 

 

^ This is very important. High speed passes wont suffer from that wobble.

 

Also, are you using a lot of rudder for aiming? A little rudder is necessary but a lot can mess your energy and stability.

[Jirokoh]

I'll just stick around to get some advice too, since I need some on the topic! 

[Sketch]

I made a video for you (and other newer players to the sim). In my video, I cover what I set my controls to and why, what my sensitivities are at and why, what trim is and why it's important, when you should start shooting and how to determine when to shoot, and some other tips and tricks that can help you get started. With that said, the learning curve from 'beginner' to 'slightly less beginner' is steep. Don't give up though because once you're at 'slightly less beginner' you'll really enjoy the game. Hope to see you online, and if you do play online get on teamspeak with others... It's so much easier to ask and answer questions via voice that via text.

 

[Jirokoh]

I made a video for you (and other newer players to the sim). In my video, I cover what I set my controls to and why, what my sensitivities are at and why, what trim is and why it's important, when you should start shooting and how to determine when to shoot, and some other tips and tricks that can help you get started. With that said, the learning curve from 'beginner' to 'slightly less beginner' is steep. Don't give up though because once you're at 'slightly less beginner' you'll really enjoy the game. Hope to see you online, and if you do play online get on teamspeak with others... It's so much easier to ask and answer questions via voice that via text.

 

 

Great video, thanks!

I do have a question though : I mostly fly the Yak-1, and thing is if I'm to high in the cockpit, the aiming reticule covers up some dials, which I can't see anymore  That's why I center my sight on the reticule, do you think it's a good idea ? 

 

Thanks for the video though, even though I'm perfectly aware of the benefits of triming, I never do it, I really should use them!

[Sketch]

In all honesty, what dials do you really need to look at in a Yak? It's either full power with radiators all the way open, or no power. No need to check temps, because you never overheat unless your engine is damaged. Maybe adjusting super 1 and 2 from 2000+ meters... 

[Jirokoh]

In all honesty, what dials do you really need to look at in a Yak? It's either full power with radiators all the way open, or no power. No need to check temps, because you never overheat unless your engine is damaged. Maybe adjusting super 1 and 2 from 2000+ meters... 

 

I think it's either the altimer or the tachimeter, which can both provide usefull info 

[I./JG62_froNt]

I prefer it centered on my sight

and added some deathzones to my X and Y (not pitch and roll, ) so it "slips" into place. 

 

Like that I stay focused on it when I zoom in and little position changes of my head wont affect that. 

 

Having the sensitivity that high can also cause accuracy problems in my opinion. 

Of course you can act very accurate around the center position of your joystick. But I find myself in many situations where Im already pulling the stick away from the center.

And with 100% Sensitivity its very imprecisely at the outer zones. (does that make sense, you guys know what I mean?  )

 

Well.. at the end its a matter of taste. That you need any kind of sensitivity setting on your curves is for sure.

Or you get a stick extension. Then your stick is naturally more precise because of its greater lever

 

edit:

 

oh yes, and trim your plane out is very important! you are normally trimming it all the time. 

Edited November 1, 2016 by 19.GIAP//uRpark

[VBF-12_Snake9]

 The rudder is your most important aiming tool.

Best way to aim is to neutralize your sick by elevator trim, roll trim, then rudder trim in that order. You want to fight the enemy not fight your stick. Once you have a neutral stick then you can use your rudder to direct your aim.

Stick curves are like azzholes, everyone has one. Find what works for you and the stick you have and pedals. I use 50 pitch, 30 roll, 60 yaw. I like a nice smooth rudder in the middle for pinpoint aiming. It can hurt your quick snap shots though.

One thing about getting close on someones 6. In this game you have to worry about propwash. My opinion is from direct six open up at about 300 to 200 meters. Any closer and the propwash will push your nose all over the place. You'll be spraying and praying.

Most important. Practice.