Gutsy to charge $95 for an Alpha state of game...

[Flyingpencil]

Gutsy to charge $95 for an Alpha state of game but not unusual as last couple of years trend is chargeing for not quite ready software.

It's like those Kickstarter programs.

 

Dunno what I am getting into, but the bait sure looks tasty! 

Edited November 27, 2013 by Flyingpencil

[Panzerlang]

Tis but pennies on a bang-for-buck basis.

[ThudThunder]

May be gutsy, but I think it is working

[-MG-Cacti4-6]

It is expensive, but given the track record of the dev team and the fact that it feels like they are really taking our suggestions and bug reports seriously tells me it is well worth it. Any alpha i can get into i will do my darnedest to get into because of how i am trying to break into the industry. So doing well written bug reports with viedos showing repeat-ability is a must for me...

[Jason_Williams]

It's not $95 for early-access. It's $95 for the final game which will be $99.99 upon release. If you order early, you get the perk of early access and fly it and help shake her out.

 

 

Jason

[Bearcat]

Gutsy to charge $95 for an Alpha state of game but not unusual as last couple of years trend is chargeing for not quite ready software.

It's like those Kickstarter programs.

Dunno what I am getting into, but the bait sure looks tasty! 

 

You do realize that you will get the final version of the sim right? It's not like this is just $95 for an Alpha .. and you have to pay more foe the final.

 

It's not $95 for early-access. It's $95 for the final game which will be $99.99 upon release. If you order early, you get the perk of early access and fly it and help shake her out.

Jason

 

This is indeed good to know.. It makes all those who pre ordered feel even better.

[-MG-Cacti4-6]

it really does, Although i know i won't get an answer on the business model and the reasoning for a price tag of 100, it is curious to see a game with that kind of tag in this day and age. not that i'm complaining...i already spent the bones to get it. It just seems like in today's world you would want to make sure you have as big of a footprint as possible and a price tag of 60 or even 50 would do that. Perhaps the sim genre is dying out worse than i thought, perhaps price isnt that big of a deal for your avg sim flyer. But like I said, i am sure that they did MORE than their due dilegence to come up with a price that would maximize profit while still ensuring a large number of people are able to purchase the game. 

 

Then again, If i had the money to fund the project i would lol, I love the genre and new games are so rare, just about anything has a great chance at being successful within that genre

[Emgy]

 It just seems like in today's world you would want to make sure you have as big of a footprint as possible and a price tag of 60 or even 50 would do that.

It will be sold for 60 usd at final release . (An edition without the two radial-engined fighters.)

[smink1701]

I for one am really glad I opened my wallet ... the awful taste CloD left in my mouth is finally gone!!!  That alone is worth the $95 and I'd do it again.

[DD_Jabo]

it really does, Although i know i won't get an answer on the business model and the reasoning for a price tag of 100, it is curious to see a game with that kind of tag in this day and age. not that i'm complaining...i already spent the bones to get it. It just seems like in today's world you would want to make sure you have as big of a footprint as possible and a price tag of 60 or even 50 would do that. Perhaps the sim genre is dying out worse than i thought, perhaps price isnt that big of a deal for your avg sim flyer. But like I said, i am sure that they did MORE than their due dilegence to come up with a price that would maximize profit while still ensuring a large number of people are able to purchase the game. 

 

Then again, If i had the money to fund the project i would lol, I love the genre and new games are so rare, just about anything has a great chance at being successful within that genre

Flight Sims = niche product = low volumes = lack of investment from the big players = smaller developers (begging your pardon Jason) + higher dev costs/fewer purchases = higher unit cost (although the standard version just squeezes in to the standard title cost bracket)

 

So pre-ordering helps keep the lights on and in this case (and others like it) I've been happy to put the money up front to help the developers of the games I enjoy.

[Scarecrow]

I'm happy with my investment. I get the final product and founder rewards and I get to start learning a far more challenging Flight Model than 1946 now. Its win win wonderful

[=RvE=Windmills]

It's not $95 for early-access. It's $95 for the final game which will be $99.99 upon release. If you order early, you get the perk of early access and fly it and help shake her out.

 

 

Jason

 

Wait, there will be cheaper version right?

[71st_AH_Hooves]

Wait, there will be cheaper version right?

Yes but it won't come with the FW-190 and the LA-5,  I hope the OP overcomes the price concerns and gets to enjoy what BoS has already shown it can be!  Very worth it!  GUTSY I think would describe the Dev team for taking on such a beast of project with determination and skill!

[Rjel]

If I get even half the value from BoS that I got from the original IL-2 then I'll be thrilled. As said, it appears money well spent at this point to me.

[Chill31]

Lol, its expensive because they sell so few units. I tried to explain this in the ROF forum one time, but no one believed me that world wide demand for flight sims is in the 15,000 range...

 

Well, go to the forum page and tell me how many registered users are here for BOS...

 

So 10,000 x 95 = 950,000. Divide that through the 777 team and you can have a wag at what these guys make. Compare that to call of duty, or madden football, or assassins creed where they are selling a million units for $50 a pop...

[IIN8II]

The longevity and reply value of this type of game makes it well worth it. You will play for years to come.

[Panzerlang]

It's an elite price charged by elite devs to elite players of an elite genre.

 

Why is there no nail-buffing smiley?

[Finkeren]

We're not paying for an Alpha build of BoS. We're not even paying for early access. We're preordering the sim, at a lower price, which will be available in finished form sometime in the first half of 2014 - same as any preorder in the history of gaming.

 

Then the devs, out of the goodness of their hearts (and because it might help them in the development process), are giving us early access to try out the early builds and supply our input.

 

I say, that's a pretty good deal.

Edited November 28, 2013 by Finkeren

[skouras]

100 bucks upon the final release

jesus christ

thank god that i got the standar version

Edited November 28, 2013 by skouras

[Uufflakke]

Apart from the price and discount + extra planes etc. when purchased early, the so called early access does have another advantage to founders which haven't mentioned before: having the time to train the flying and shooting skills till release in May 2014.

By that time you are all aces and shoot every clumsy newcomer like me to pieces.   

Good for your online status and reputation.

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

Insert evil laugh here: as I BNZ down upon a random hapless noob.

[thx1138]

I can't see BOS as being expensive.

 

Reason is I just looked at my ROF hanger and I have every plane, even waiting for my Strutter to finish being built. BOS is a steal by comparison...

[SharpeXB]

Both these. BoS and RoF are worth every penny spent on them. I own everything for RoF and can't speculate how much I've spent but it's the best entertainment value ever. The developers deserve total gratitude and earnings for al their quality work. I'll continue to buy everything they make. Thank you 777/1CGC ! Keep up the awesome work.

[II./JG27_Rich]

One hundred bucks is nothing. In 2001 the Canadian dollar was so low that IL-2 was with tax included twenty cents away from eighty dollars. I forked it over like it was a couple of loonies.

Edited November 28, 2013 by II./JG27_Rich

[=38=Tatarenko]

Lol, its expensive because they sell so few units. I tried to explain this in the ROF forum one time, but no one believed me that world wide demand for flight sims is in the 15,000 range...

 

 

Not true. The Ostfront add-on for IL-2 sold almost 30k units and that was an obscure add-on for single player only. (And thank you to those people!)

 

There is a VAST market for this within Russia.

[Chill31]

Well hopefully they show up...and even if they do, yay 30,000 units! 3 million dollars over 2 years divided by 20 people...ish

Edited November 28, 2013 by Chill31

[-MG-Cacti4-6]

Not true. The Ostfront add-on for IL-2 sold almost 30k units and that was an obscure add-on for single player only. (And thank you to those people!)

 

There is a VAST market for this within Russia.

Wthin Russia. However within the US the market is relativly limited. I think a LARGE part of that is because of the culture here, and a contributing factor most certainly is the fact that the Western Europe portion of WW2 has largely been igonred by developers as has the pacific theater

[LeadTurn_SD]

The longevity and reply value of this type of game makes it well worth it. You will play for years to come.

 

Exactly.   A good flight sim will remain on my harddrive for years.

[Livai]

Since I have tested RoF I am happy about my investiment that I made.

[Rjel]

Wthin Russia. However within the US the market is relativly limited. I think a LARGE part of that is because of the culture here, and a contributing factor most certainly is the fact that the Western Europe portion of WW2 has largely been igonred by developers as has the pacific theater

Hmmm. I'm guessing someone will be telling you otherwise. It will be good if BoS succeeds, that it might migrate to the ETO and Pacific eventually.

[-MG-Cacti4-6]

Hmmm. I'm guessing someone will be telling you otherwise. It will be good if BoS succeeds, that it might migrate to the ETO and Pacific eventually.

by culture here i meant culture inside the states, But it is very hard to dispute the limited sales in the flight sim market inside the united states. The original IL-2 sold only 100k copies. Then add in the relatively small markets of the entire DCS franchise and its pretty easy to come to that conclusion. The only wild card (other than BoS) at this point is War Thunder. One of the main issues i have is that it is nearly impossible to pull data seeing total number of accounts from a specific country.  

 

Yes it will be wonderfull if IL-2 BoS trumps all of these and makes a large splash in the market because it will hopefully open up theaters i am most interested in

[Zettman]

Well I bought premium to support the game, I would have bought it even without the early access.

 

Zettman

[Rigsby]

How can some people moan when they spend 100 bucks on Aftershave, just to sit and smell nice, while paying God knows how much money for a meal out with the misuses? This isn't Space invaders or Pac Man they are writing here. This thing takes time to develop and time is money. if you want a game for free, I have Snakes & Ladders knocking about somewhere.

Edited November 28, 2013 by Rigsby

[II./JG27_Rich]

Exactly or they go out to dinner and a show and if they pay for the girlfriend it's way over $100 .

[Rigsby]

BTW: I spent a fortune playing Space Invaders & PacMan at the arcades, so even that took more of my coin.

[-MG-Cacti4-6]

Exactly or they go out to dinner and a show and if they pay for the girlfriend it's way over $100 .

define "pay for the girlfriend". you know escort services arent quite that expensive....oh...wait.....thats wasnt my inside voice was it

[Bearcat]

I can't see BOS as being expensive.

Reason is I just looked at my ROF hanger and I have every plane, even waiting for my Strutter to finish being built. BOS is a steal by comparison...

 

Factor in the sales.. like the one going on now...

 

Well I bought premium to support the game, I would have bought it even without the early access.

Zettman

 

Me too...

[heinkill]

I pay 100 bucks to buy my kid a console football game these days, not to mention all the in game purchases that he inevitably uses his pocket money on to get him into the next league or championship or whatever. So it's definitely in the ballpark.

[II./JG27_Rich]

define "pay for the girlfriend". you know escort services arent quite that expensive....oh...wait.....thats wasnt my inside voice was it

Ya sorry. You and I would be paying $800 - $1000 at least. I don't like the dumb ones I want a little clever conversation.

Edited November 29, 2013 by II./JG27_Rich

[hiro]

paying something for a game that has the potential to last longer than the average car for less 100 US. And I spent thousands US on my last car, and IL-2 lasted just as long (10+ years). And delivers lots of fun (but the car wins out in funnage merely by the participation in life activities).