Need Help with Squad Emblems and Insignia

[Jason_Williams]

Everyone,

 

Our new Career will feature emblems and insignia for each squadron available for both the VVS and Luftwaffe. 

 

The image should be 512 x 512 pixels at least with preferably a transparent background like in .png format.

 

If a squad had no specific historical emblem (Soviet squads mostly did not) than we need to crate a fictional emblem/insignia. For example - some kind of regimental red banner embroidered with the name of the regiment or maybe a Guards insignia. You can get a little creative, but it should try to look convincing. Maybe like a regimental flag that would be hung in a squadron HQ. 

 

We did this for Rise of Flight, but the emblems are small. However, there is a large collection of them and they look cool when they appear in the Career. We want to expand on this idea in IL-2.

 

Help us make cool emblems and insignia. If you have already created a collection of them please post in this forum and we will be in touch to discuss using them.

 

If you would like to post references for us of actual squad emblems or actual artwork that is ready to go, please do so in the thread below.

 

Jason

 

 

[Cybermat47]

Jagdgeschwader 3

 

[SOLIDKREATE]

130+ Emblems in .PNG format.

 

 

 

DROPBOX: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jcyybo5t4gt3j69/Restored%20Logos%20v3.7_11SEP2016.zip?dl=0

 

ORIGINAL THREAD FOR CREDITS TO OTHER CONTRIBUTING ARTISTS: http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/18624-resource-unit-emblems-bos-and-bom/

 

 

 

 

Example of work (Just one page of nine):

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know what the Spanish emblems are. Can one of our Spanish Brothers ID them?

 

 

 

 

CORRECTED ANR-96 Gruppo 237a emblem:

 

 

Edited October 9, 2016 by II./ZG1_SPEKTRE76

[1/JSpan_Wind75]

Todo el mundo,

 

Nuestra nueva carrera contará con emblemas e insignias para cada escuadra disponible tanto para la VVS y la Luftwaffe. 

 

La imagen debe ser de 512 x 512 píxeles como mínimo, preferentemente con un fondo transparente como en formato .png.

 

Si un equipo no tenía el emblema histórico específico (escuadrones de la Unión Soviética en su mayoría no lo hicieron) de lo que necesitamos para crear una película de ficción emblema / insignia. Por ejemplo - una especie de bandera roja regimiento bordado con el nombre del regimiento o tal vez una insignia de la Guardia. Puede ser un poco creativo, pero debe tratar de parecer convincente. Tal vez como una bandera de regimiento que se colgó en un HQ escuadra. 

 

Hicimos esto para Rise of Flight, pero los emblemas son pequeñas. Sin embargo, hay una gran colección de ellos y verse bien cuando aparecen en la carrera. Queremos ampliar esta idea de la IL-2.

 

Ayúdanos a hacer fresco emblemas e insignias. Si ya ha creado una colección de ellos por favor escribir en este foro y estaremos en contacto para discutir el uso de ellos.

 

Si usted quisiera fijar referencias para nosotros de emblemas o escuadrones de la obra de arte reales real que está listo para ir, puede hacerlo en el hilo de abajo.

 

Jason

 

Hello Jason,

 

I'm a graphic designer by profession

 

You could put a graphic example on the emblem you need for the film. I do not really understand you need. Historical emblems of the Luftwaffe are easy to find on the internet. Perhaps it mean to create an emblem invented within a banner of an alleged Russian squadron regiment?

 

 

Sincerely

Edited October 6, 2016 by 1/JSpan_Guerrero

[csThor]

I have got a large collection of Luftwaffe emblems. I will look into suitable ones on the weekend.

Edited October 6, 2016 by csThor

[1/JSpan_Wind75]

 

 

Perhaps this books may be helpful for emblems Luftwaffe

 

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Luftwaffe+Emblems+1939-1945

[LukeFF]

For Soviet Guards units, it's probably just best to replicate the official emblem they would paint on their planes.

[csThor]

Kampfgeschwader 4 "General Wever"

 

 

Can be used for all three Gruppen of KG 4, but photographic evidence is a little bit sketchy as to the application of this emblem after the Battle of Britain. It was certainly used as unit badge (as it was the family crest of the Wever family).

KG4.zip

[csThor]

Kampfgeschwader 53 "Legion Condor"

 

  

I./KG 53                                                   II. and III./KG 53

 

 

 

 

Again photographic evidence on aircraft during the campaign in the Soviet Union remains sketchy.

 

Kampfgeschwader 55 "Greif"

 

 

Used by the entire Geschwader and its use on aircraft operating over the Soviet Union can be confirmed.

KG53.zip

KG55.zip

Edited October 8, 2016 by csThor

[csThor]

Kampfgeschwader 51 "Edelweiss"

 

I./KG 51                                                II./KG 51                                                III./KG 51

Kampfgeschwader 100 "Wiking"

 

KG51.zip

I_KG100.zip

[csThor]

Kampfgeschwader 27

 

I./KG 27                                                II./KG 27                                                III./KG 27

KG27.zip

[csThor]

I./Stukageschwader 2 "Immelmann"

 

Gruppenstab I./StG 2

 

1./StG 2

 

2./StG 2

 

3./StG 2

 

 

In I./StG 2 the Gruppenstab and all three component Staffeln featured a variant of the "Terrier" emblem underlaid by the tactical colour (as prescribed by the Luftwaffe colour system).

I_StG2.zip

[csThor]

Jagdgeschwader 53 "Pik As"

 

I./JG 53

 

There is abundant evidence that a variation of this emblem with tiny "breaks" in the black outline was used.

I_JG53.zip

[707shap_Srbin]

3./StG 2     In I./StG 2 the Gruppenstab and all three component Staffeln featured a variant of the "Terrier" emblem underlaid by the tactical colour (as prescribed by the Luftwaffe colour system).

 

 

Wrong for 3rd Staffel.

It kept Coat of Arms of Breslau, where it was formed as 3./St.G.153 back in  1937. This emblem was used untill spring 1943.

 

Ju87B. Summer-autumn 1941.

 

 

 

 

Ju87D. Summer 1942, Summer offensive.

 

 

 

Ju87D. Winter 1943/43, Stalingrad

 

 

Edited October 8, 2016 by I./ZG1_Panzerbar

[csThor]

Not necessarily. That is a second possibility. As you have proved it's documented that this was used but not necessarily on all aircraft.

 

3_StG2_Alternative.zip

[15[Span.]/JG51Costa]

 

 

 

 

I don't know what the Spanish emblems are. Can one of our Spanish Brothers ID them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Spektre.

These are the emblems corresponding to the five Spanish squadrons that fought in Russia.

​Thank you very much for your great work.

 

Saludos

​15(Span.)/JG51 Costa

[csThor]

II. (Schlacht) / Lehrgeschwader 2

 

4.(Schlacht)/LG 2                                5.(Schlacht)/LG 2                               6.(Schlacht)/LG 2

 

Even though the emblems have their roots in the Battle of Britain and that the "Infanteriesturmabzeichen" badge would slowly replace the individual unit badges during "Barbarossa" there are pics that are supposedly dated summer 1941 showing Bf 109 with those emblems.

 

On January 1942 the unit was redesignated as

 

I. / Schlachtgeschwader 1 (I./SchG 1)

 

Geschwaderstab / SchG 1

 

Stab I./SchG 1                                                   1./SchG 1                                                2./SchG 1                                                3./SchG 1

 

I./SchG 1 utilized variations of ex-4./LG 2's unit badge when its former Staffelkapitän Alfred Druschel was promoted to command of I./SchG 2 in early 1942. It is possible that the Geschwaderstab did not use that emblem until Druschel took over command of SchG 1 in 1943. I have it included as an option.

II_Schlacht_LG2.zip

I_SchG1.zip

[csThor]

Kampfgeschwader 26 "Löwen"

 

 

III./KG 26

 

 

Kampfgeschwader 54 "Totenkopf"

 

II./KG 54

 

Kampfgeschwader 77

 

I./KG 77

 

Just some additions I needed to make after researching german bomber units during "Typhoon".

KG26+54.zip

I_KG77.zip

Edited October 9, 2016 by csThor

[707shap_Srbin]

Battle of Moscow

 

II.(Schl.)/LG 2

ISA in schield was used together with Staffeln emblems, but only on Bf109E's, from summer '41 to the end of year.

 

Stab II.(Schl.)/LG 2                              4.(Schl.)/LG 2                           5.(Schl.)/LG 2                           6.(Schl.)/LG 2                           10.(Schl.)/LG 2

 

 

Battle of Stalingrad

 

Stab./Schl.G.1

Unknown emblem.

 

I./Schl.G.1 - Emblem on engine cowl + ISA under canopy.

Stab I./Schl.G.1                              1./Schl.G.1                           2./Schl.G.1                           3./Schl.G.1                           4.(Pz.)./Schl.G.1

 

I./Schl.G.1 - Emblem on the fuselage aft pilot canopy (Hs129) or in front of pilot canopy (Hs123) + ISA on front nose section (Hs129) or on fuselage side close to engine cowl (Hs123). 8.Staffel was attached to I Gruppe, and used I Gruppe emblem.

Stab II./Schl.G.1                              5./Schl.G.1                              6./Schl.G.1                              7./Schl.G.1                              8./Schl.G.1

 

Battle of Kuban

 

Stab./Schl.G.1

No emblems were used (because unit was equipped with Fw190's only close to april'43). Just ISA under cockpit.

 

I./Schl.G.1

Following emblem was used, but only until april '43.

 

4.(Pz.)./Schl.G.1

No emblems were used. Just ISA on the front nose section.

 

II./Schl.G.1

Following emblem was used, but only until april '43.

 

8.(Pz.)./Schl.G.1

Only ISA after canopy (on the ledt side) and on the nose section of fuselage.

 

Erg. SchlachtGruppe.

 

1.Staffel (Bf109E)

 

2.Staffel (Hs129, Hs123)

 

3. Staffel  (Bf110, later Fw190)

Edited October 10, 2016 by I./ZG1_Panzerbar

[Haza]

Gents,

 

This is a link to a few books that can be bought, but not sure if this is the type of thing that you would wish to use.

Just a thought.

 

However, it looks like you might have enough for the period you require.

 

http://www.bookdepository.com/Luftwaffe-Squadrons/9781904687627

 

http://www.bookdepository.com/Fighters-Over-Stalingrad-1-Nikit-Egorov-Boris-Nechki/9781781550465?ref=grid-view

 

http://www.bookdepository.com/The-German-Fighter-Units-Over-Russi-Werner-Held/9780887402463?ref=grid-view

 

http://www.bookdepository.com/Fighters-Over-Russi-Manfred-Griehl/9781848327931?ref=grid-view

 

 

 

Regards

Edited October 10, 2016 by Haza

[150GCT_Veltro]

21° Gruppo Autonomo CT (Caccia Terrestre)

Regia Aeronautica

Macchi 202

Edited October 20, 2016 by 150GCT_Veltro

[15[Span.]/JG51Costa]

Thanks brother!

 

 

Here is an updated 4a Azul emblem:

 

 

 

4a Azul.png

 

 

Dear Spektre:

Thankyou very much. It's a very good job.

But I'm afraid that this emblem its not historically correct. After a lot of research I never found a time war picture were appears such emblem.

Its true that this emblem is in this magazine:

As you can see, it says Fw 190 of de 3ª Escuadrilla in Orel, but inside the spanish flag shield is represented the emblem of the 4ª Escuadrilla.

 

And allso in this model kid:

 

But apart from these two references, there are nothing that makes me thing that they are historical accurate.

​What is sure is that the emblem of the forth Escuadrilla is this:

 

Saludos

15(Span.)/JG51 Costa

[707shap_Srbin]

 

 

But I'm afraid that this emblem its not historically correct. After a lot of research I never found a time war picture were appears such emblem.

Its true that this emblem is in this magazine:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also failed to find any 15./JG51 Fw190 photo with any emblem. Just number and thats all. Seems, in Spanish Staffel followed general JG51 tradition, who abandoned all emblems totally.

 

[SOLIDKREATE]

I also failed to find any 15./JG51 Fw190 photo with any emblem. Just number and thats all. Seems, in Spanish Staffel followed general JG51 tradition, who abandoned all emblems totally.

 

 

Well, that sucks =o(.

 

Emblem deleted.    

[InProgress]

Kind of old topoc but hope it's still possible to give suggestion. Unfortunately it's just Wikipedia page, since I am on the phone. It's quite a interesting one.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturzkampfgeschwader_1

 

Also more detailed. With more emblems.

https://www.asisbiz.com/Luftwaffe/stg1.html

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

Thanks a lot Costa.