Rudder controls

[Rokko]

Hello everyone,

 

I am new to Battle of Stalingrad and am somewhat struggeling with getting into the game.

I've been trying so far to get some basic flying going, having not played any flight sims in a few years (RoF was the last one I believe).

This time I've got a decently working head-tracking setup, which will hopefully make things a little easier.

 

So far I've only flown the 109-F4, having managed a few take offs and a little level flying and the sort.

But I am really struggeling with the rudder controls. I've noticed in this game, rudder is absolutely crucial for doing anything in the 109.

I have a Madcatz F.L.Y. 5 joystick, which is a few years old already and which I am not particularly fond of, to say the least.

I find using the twist stick very taxing on my wrist since I constantly have to twist it a little to right in order to fly in somewhat straight lines or take off

without crashing into anything on the runway sides. I also find this way of yaw control to be very inaccurate, constantly wobbling from left to right during "level" flight.

I've tried messing around with the sensitivity and dead-zone settings to not much avail so far.

 

My question is mainly, what can I do to improve my control over the rudders?

I don't want to buy pedals, too pricey for me as an entry level player, although those would probably give me the best possible rudder control.

Should I consider using keyboard key-strokes instead for rudder control? But on the other hand, than I would need one hand on the keyboard instead of controlling throttle during take-off...

Or should I consider getting a different joystick, one which has a better twist stick or some other solution. I've seen the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X stick has an interesting setup with two rudder buttons

on the back of the throttle handle. Is that any good? Other joystick setups, even very pricey ones don't seem to have any other special ways of rudder control except twist sticks.

 

Aside from that, I am generally interested in how people around here control their rudders.

Also, could it be that I simply have to use the vertical trim to achieve level-flight? So far I've not found any stabilizer setting that made level flight without rudder input possible, though.

 

Best regards,

Oliver

Edited October 2, 2016 by Rokko

[Sokol1]

You joystick is very... basic.  

 

Have in mind that Bf 109 fly more or less "hand off" with Stabilizer Adjust only a given throttle/RPM adjust, the called "cruise speed", in all other situations you need correct.

 

Rudder control with keys allow you in someway "cheater" with rudder fixing then for side - when need use reset rudder. You can set bot options, twist and keys in controls.

 

On hardware side (IMO) you should avoid HOTAS X - obsolete electronics, cheap pot's subject to wear... although their different look is basically is "more of the same" like FLY 5, will be solution for a give time only.

 

Instead take a look at

with rockers tabs for rudder control, will cost a little more but allowing have throttle and rudder control in the same hand. Latter you can improve then with a better joystick, T16000M or VKB Gladiator.

[Guest deleted@1562]

If you don't want to spend money on rudder pedals, use the keyboard for rudder control as Sokol advises. BTW, before buying a throttle, I would buy pedals.

[SCG_Borchers]

OG

 

Not trying to hijack your thread, but hello all I just bought Pedals the CH pro's and I am having more problems now than when i was just using my stick for rudder. I cant even take off now all i do is spin and spin. I tried 15times and got up 1 time please help. What are some setting that you all use to combat this.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

OG

 

Not trying to hijack your thread, but hello all I just bought Pedals the CH pro's and I am having more problems now than when i was just using my stick for rudder. I cant even take off now all i do is spin and spin. I tried 15times and got up 1 time please help. What are some setting that you all use to combat this.

 

Be sure to check that you don't still have your rudder mapped to both twist and pedals simultaneously. I made this mistake during transition and did not realise that I had been inputting small amounts of twist overriding my pedal input at inopportune times.

[Rokko]

Thanks for the replies.

That same evening I also read about the upcoming Thrustmaster 16000 FCS and am considering to get one.

I would still like to know what most people without pedals use for rudder control, key strokes or joystick twist axes?

 

And am I understanding correctly, that using key strokes for rudder control works more like rudder trim even for planes, that didn't actually have it?

 

Also, during take off one needs to control throttle, rudder, wheel brakes and the stick all at the same time, what is the best or easiest way to do this?

[SharpeXB]

OG

 

Not trying to hijack your thread, but hello all I just bought Pedals the CH pro's and I am having more problems now than when i was just using my stick for rudder. I cant even take off now all i do is spin and spin. I tried 15times and got up 1 time please help. What are some setting that you all use to combat this.

When I got rudder pedals I had to learn to fly all over again ;-)

The CH pedals are very good and durable. I've had mine for six years.