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[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

From Leatherneck Simulations facebook :

 

 

[BeastyBaiter]

New skin?

[Danziger]

Just screenshots of the MiG 21 over Normandy 1944 looks like. That's the new cool thing at DCS.

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Just screenshots of the MiG 21 over Normandy 1944 looks like. That's the new cool thing at DCS.

I find it more appropriate than over Nevada lol 

But to be fair there just is no other option to show MiG in 2.1 version with the new lightning and effects. 

 

In regard to skin, there are plenty of customs skins as well. I remember a couple Polish as well, one was nice with swordfish painted on the side. 

[Danziger]

It's still my favorite module.

[MiloMorai]

Just screenshots of the MiG 21 over Normandy 1944 looks like. That's the new cool thing at DCS.

 

The Russians Folda Gap attack was a success.

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

LoL

But I can somehow accept MiG-21 there more than Bf 109 K-4. 

[Feathered_IV]

Looks like the MiG has the same Vaseline coating as the planes here. 

[ZachariasX]

is DCS down? I can't reach their website and it can't connect from withing the game...

 

*It's up now*

Edited July 10, 2017 by ZachariasX

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Looks like the MiG has the same Vaseline coating as the planes here. 

 

It's Future to prevent the decals from silvering.

 

You should know this. 

Edited July 10, 2017 by Space_Ghost

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Yeah, well, PBR does funny things to those textures. But I think its still going to be tweaked. Certainly better than texture flickering I experience on some P-51 camos.  

[9./JG27MAD-MM]

Why they still post under Leatherneck found this little bit strange after they for quite while as Magnitude under the Way in the DCS Forum

[Gambit21]

So...will the MiG 21 help escort B-17's in the DCS reality or shoot them down?

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Proper question is ... how much punishment can K-4 sustain ?

[Bearfoot]

So...will the MiG 21 help escort B-17's in the DCS reality or shoot them down?

 

1944-1945

 

The June US/UK coalition landings on mainland Europe were a resounding success ... but the breakout was a stunning failure. German reinforcements, including heavy armor and artillery, diverted from the eastern front and rushed to Normandy to create a "wall of steel and fire" locking the landing forces on the thin beachheads, while diversion of all air and sea resources to hit the cross-channel supply chain made US/UK reinforcements for a breakout a very, very, very, costly and bloody affair. Nonetheless, the US/UK persevere, not just holding on, but over the course of the next few months, inch by bloody inch, crawling out of the beaches and into Normandy proper, pushing back the lines to Falais.

 

And then, the Russians come.

 

In a late '44 offensive, the Russians punch through the weakened Eastern Front, sweeping through Western Europe like an angry wind blowing across the steppes, not only taking Berlin in a matter of weeks, but rolling on through the Low Countries and into France, right up to the Falais lines where they meet the besieged and beleaguered US/UK lines. The first US patrols encounter the first Russian patrols up and down the Falais line on Feb 14, 1945. Whiskey and vodka and cigars and sausages are exchanged, celebrations explode up and down the lines instead of shells and bullets, and VE day is declared on Feb 18, 1945.

 

The honeymoon does not last for long, however.

 

Stalin soon demands that the imperialists colonial occupiers vacate their Western Normandy territories, allowing it to join the rest of the newly formed Democratic Socialist Republic of Gaul as per "the wishes of the people". The UK, exhausted by the conflict, and resources beyond strained, economy near collapse, domestic unrest and riots rife, agrees. The US does not. They refuse to vacate Normandy, but recognize that the political and logistical challenges of maintaining the Falais territories are too challenging. Instead, they fall back and consolidate, and thus "Fortress Cherbourg" is born, where a massive build-up of air and land forces transform it from a thorn in Stalin's side to a full-blown tumor.

 

19xx

 

X years of tense stand-off has degraded in a shooting war in all but name. While the Falais lines hold strong without actual violence, a massive guerrilla war rages in Normandy, where US funded, trained, supported, advised, and reinforced French "freedom fighters" engage with Soviet funded, trained, supported, advised, reinforced "citizen guards". The conflict is violent but low-intensity, and politically carefully constrained: no US citizen wearing a US uniform has actually shot a Soviet citizen wearing a Soviet uniform. But "volunteers" and mercenaries from the US, UK, as well as Russia fill the ranks of both sides. 

 

While strictly avoiding non-deniable "flagged-boots-on-boots" engagements, both sides bring in their air forces. Soviet bombers strike Cherbourg and the shipping lines from both the US and England supplying Cherbourg, while US bombers based out of southern England begin attack Soviet airfields and logistics in France. Fighter-bombers from both sides carry out strikes and close air support of their respective guerrilla forces.

 

If 1940-ish to before 1950-ish or so:

• (Blue) P-51, Spitfire, B-17, B-29
• (Red) Bf-109K (adopted and mass-produced from liberated Luftwaffe), Tu-95, Tu-4;  

 

If 1950-ish to before 1960-ish or so:

• (Blue) F-86, B-17, B-29;
• (Red) Mig-15, Tu-95, Tu-4;  

 

If 1960-ish to 1970-ish:

• (Blue) F-5E, F-86, B-52;
• (Red) Mig-21, Mig-15, Tu-95  
• Helicopter operations dominate the ground conflict, with Mi-8's and Huey's shuttling freedom fighters/citizen guards in and around the bocage's as well as providing gunship support.

 

1945-alternate(-alternate)

 

The new UK Labor government looking to the Soviet Union as the shining light to guide the post-WW2 world, not only agrees to withdraw for Normandy, but to consider joining the Russian proposed "Pan-European Union". At the "request of the people of the United Kingdom", Russian air forces, supported by "reinforced domestic peacekeeping guards" begin basing in airfields in Southern England, to "defend the sovereignty of the English people and their right to be part of the international communist movement". Alarmed, the US begins a bombing campaign to reduce these airfields, launching P-51 escorted B-17 raids from its Normandy bases. British Spitfires, once again take to the skies to fight the second Battle of Britain.

 

• Blue: P-51, B-17, B-29
• Red: Spitfire IX, Tu-4,

 

   

Edited July 12, 2017 by Bearfoot

[9./JG27DefaultFace]

Well Nevermind the earlier post then.....

 

BST confirmed its developing an Mi 24 and F-4E

[DerNeueMensch]

Phantom just wont happen.

Pwned! (In a good way :D)

 

F-5, F-14, Mig-21, F-4 (Mi-8, Mi-24, AH-1 I think are also being developed?) over Strait of Hormuz for Iraq-Iran scenarios and F-18 for modern scenarios...looks like at last there will be the possibility for at least somewhat realistic and interesting A-A scenarios at last. Hoping for a more western middle east map as well...maybe in 10 years...

Edited July 14, 2017 by DerNeueMensch

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Pwned! (In a good way :D)

 

F-5, F-14, Mig-21, F-4 (Mi-8, Mi-24, AH-1 I think are also being developed?) over Strait of Hormuz for Iraq-Iran scenarios and F-18 for modern scenarios...looks like at last there will be the possibility for at least somewhat realistic and interesting A-A scenarios at last. Hoping for a more western middle east map as well...maybe in 10 years...

For over a decade people were asking for it and it was denied. Even by ED if I remember. It was proper to assume that chances of its development are slim. But there is always but ... 

I dont complain even though its a Phantom with no gun. 

 

Sidenote. This is yesterday situation on 2.1 multi: 

 

 

 

 

Been like that for over 2 weeks now. Unfortunately its pretty damn empty ...

[Thad]

Not very promising.

[DerNeueMensch]

even though its a Phantom with no gun.

I don't know which e variant they are going to make (they said it's gonna be a F-4e), but the post Vietnam e variant, has an internal gun under the nose. At least that's what Wikipedia says.

Edited July 14, 2017 by DerNeueMensch

[150GCT_Veltro]

F-4E Phantom II has been announced by Belsimtek today.

 

https://belsimtek.com/news/1785/

[BeastyBaiter]

The Mi-24 has been known about for a long time, we've known since about 5-6 months before the F-5's release that the Mi-24 was next in the pipe and they'd planned to do it immediately after the Mi-8 but it kept getting pushed further down. The F-4 is news to me, going to have to look up the post (assuming it's real). I'm hoping for a 1970's E with AGM-65's to better represent Iran's capabilities, as well as US capabilities in the 1980's.

 

Edit: Ninja'd by Veltro, thanks for the link!

 

Edit 2: It states F-4E, though that still doesn't say a whole lot other than it will have an internal gun. Hopefully we get one of the more ground attack focused models, since those still retain all the air to air capability and just add ground attack ability.

Edited July 14, 2017 by BeastyBaiter

[Finkeren]

Don't know much about Cold War aircraft, but F-4E should be a good match for the MiG-21, right? From what I've heard, the MiG is an awesome model with nothing contemporary to fight?

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

IIRC this MiG-21 is a bit late for Vietnam but the F-4E still was around in the late 70s so this would be a nice matchup. The Phantom has the advantage in more missile payload and I think both the radar and the Sparrows are longer range than the MiG's

[MiloMorai]

IIRC this MiG-21 is a bit late for Vietnam but the F-4E still was around in the late 70s so this would be a nice matchup. The Phantom has the advantage in more missile payload and I think both the radar and the Sparrows are longer range than the MiG's

 

 

[-=PHX=-SuperEtendard]

 

And how many MiG-21Bis did the Vietnamese Air Force use in the war???

Edited July 14, 2017 by -=PHX=-SuperEtendard

[Pierre64]

Kippur War (October 1973) : a Mig 21 shot down by a Phantom...

[Danziger]

MiG-21Bis is not the MiG-21s that were in Vietnam.

[BeastyBaiter]

If the MiG-21Bis served in Vietnam then the Bf-109K4 is a spanish civil war plane and should face the I-15. Oh wait, I really shouldn't give ED ideas, sorry.   Regardless, the MiG-21Bis has seen plenty of combat against the F-5E, F-4E and F-14A. Ignoring the F-14 in that mix, I think it will be a fairly balanced setup in MP. The F-4's AIM-7's will give it a BVR advantage, but that early radar shouldn't be able to pick out low flying targets very well, so it will probably be about as useful as the MiG-21's radar in practice. The official confirmation of the Mi-24P is the far bigger news in there even if not surprising. Been waiting for that module since the beginning.

[150GCT_Veltro]

Kippur War (October 1973) : a Mig 21 shot down by a Phantom...

 

Exactly, +1.

 

Kippur would be a dream, but i think is a dead horse like MED in IL2.

 

 

In DCS, F-4E will be a good choice for the IRIAF in the Strait of Hormuz, as for the F-14.

 

[DerNeueMensch]

 

 

In DCS, F-4E will be a good choice for the IRIAF in the Strait of Hormuz, as for the F-14.

Yeah, finally gonna be able to create a mission based on the Airstrike on H-3, yay!

[Sokol1]

Kippur War (October 1973) : a Mig 21 shot down by a Phantom...

 

Ops, in this video the Mig shot down is Mig-17

 

https://theaviationist.com/2014/10/10/footage-f-4-shot-down-mig/

 

Probable during Ofira Air battle.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ofira_Air_Battle

[Lusekofte]

I give a damn in the Phantom F 4 I want the MI 24 Hind

[BeastyBaiter]

It's going to be a late production model F-4E, link:https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3193843&postcount=61

 

Other posts by him say it will be a USAF version.

Edited July 17, 2017 by BeastyBaiter

[JG5_Zesphr]

 

P-47 is also coming after the spit  

[Solty]

I just had to show it you guys. Check this thread. News about the "new" P-51 model.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=188604&page=2

 

Edited July 20, 2017 by =LD=Solty

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

-snip-

 

 

That's how I feel about DisorganizedCS in general.

[No_85_Gramps]

+1

[Lusekofte]

Not sure what you mena, this topic looks like any other in here

[Finkeren]

I don't quite get it either. What am I looking for in that thread?