Can't complete 1st mission

[ravenmorpheus]

Hi

 

Wasn't sure where to post this...

 

Recently bought Battle of Stalingrad and I've just tried the first mission of the campaign.  Flying a Lagg-3 I took off, followed the waypoints to the action point but there were no enemy aircraft, I circled for a couple of minutes, and then followed the flight plan home, when I got to the exit point a message said I had completed the mission, so I proceeded to land.  Upon landing (not very well and ending up spinning into the grass) nothing happened, so I pressed escape and ended the mission, but the game says I failed the mission and I'm back at the map having to choose an airfield and do the same mission again!

 

So, where/how do I find the enemies at the action point?

 

Can you not advance the campaign without completing objectives?  In the real world pilots quite often came back without engaging the enemy and the world carried on.

 

And shouldn't the mission end or some message given to say the mission is over once I've landed?

 

Thanks in advance, hope someone can help me get on in the campaign.

Edited September 25, 2016 by ravenmorpheus

[LLv24_Zami]

What type of mission were you flying?

 

You have to complete mission goals to advance in campaign. Mission objectives are on action point. You can counter enemies before or after that point though. When the objectives are completed and you fly to the exit point you can end the mission. Landing is not mandatory but you get more points if you do.  When you hit esc, the finish text should be green when the mission is completed successfully. And of course you get on screen notifications when playing the mission.

[216th_Jordan]

Lets face it, this goal thing is stupid right now. Sometimes you just can't find the enemies and it just won't let you finish the mission when you get back home. A good way for the first combat missions is actually flying Escort missions, even if you don't shoot or hit anything, if the bombers get through your mission is a success.

 

Btw. Raven a new campaign mode is in development right now, it will just need some time till it's implemented.

Edited September 25, 2016 by 216th_Jordan

[ravenmorpheus]

What type of mission were you flying?

 

You have to complete mission goals to advance in campaign. Mission objectives are on action point. You can counter enemies before or after that point though. When the objectives are completed and you fly to the exit point you can end the mission. Landing is not mandatory but you get more points if you do.  When you hit esc, the finish text should be green when the mission is completed successfully. And of course you get on screen notifications when playing the mission.

 

 

It was an intercept mission.

 

Lets face it, this goal thing is stupid right now. Sometimes you just can't find the enemies and it just won't let you finish the mission when you get back home. A good way for the first combat missions is actually flying Escort missions, even if you don't shoot or hit anything, if the bombers get through your mission is a success.

 

Btw. Raven a new campaign mode is in development right now, it will just need some time till it's implemented.

 

I'll try that, I wanted to do an intercept mission first of all though, to get some action...

 

I guess the best bet is to do escort, and maybe ground attack missions, all the time, that way I should be able to at least find my targets...

 

Have read about a new campaign mode (among other things) being in development, given development times I won't expect anything any time soon.  I don't play multiplayer though so BoS is a bit of a dud for me without a good campaign mode.  I was aware that IL2 BoS might not be good for SP though, but was hoping it had improved since release.

 

I do have PWCG though and plan on using that but I want to play through the stock campaign so I can unlock everything first - as I understand it that's the only way to unlock all the stuff?

Edited September 25, 2016 by ravenmorpheus

[LLv24_Zami]

Unlocks have been removed. Everything is available now without playing campaign.

[ravenmorpheus]

Unlocks have been removed. Everything is available now without playing campaign.

 

 

Not in my copy that I bought for £8 from G2A.com?!  Apparently I have the Start edition, which I assumed is the Standard edition and was just a typo on my licences page!!

Edited September 25, 2016 by ravenmorpheus

[Custard]

Not in my copy that I bought for £8 from G2A.com?!  Apparently I have the Start edition, which I assumed is the Standard edition and was just a typo on my licences page!!

 

That's just what happens when you take the risk of buying from an unapproved retailer. You'll just have to grind single player missions with time acceleration.

Edited September 25, 2016 by Custard

[ravenmorpheus]

That's just what happens when you take the risk of buying from an unapproved retailer. You'll just have to grind single player missions with time acceleration.

 

Doesn't bother me.  I fully admit I went looking for a bargain because I don't think BoS is currently worth the full price.  I'd pay the IL2 BoS Standard Edition price, $50, for a game like IL2 1946 - because there's tons of content (both stock and modded in) and, crucially, there's a dynamic campaign/career system which works well and there are good scripted campaigns also.  I'd be more likely to buy IL2 BoS at full price if it was more like IL2 1946 and/or also a study sim like DCS modules.

 

What was bothering me was that I wasn't able to complete a mission because I couldn't locate the air targets at the action point - there wasn't anything at all, or so it seemed.

 

I was playing on Expert difficulty though.  I will from now on be playing on Normal difficulty as I note there are markers to show where targets are.  It's a shame you can't customize the campaign difficulty.

Edited September 25, 2016 by ravenmorpheus

[LLv24_Zami]

Not in my copy that I bought for £8 from G2A.com?!  Apparently I have the Start edition, which I assumed is the Standard edition and was just a typo on my licences page!!

Oh, I always forget that Start edition.

 

Targets are flying near action point for sure. You just missed them. You can see the plane markers on the map even in the expert difficulty which makes things little easier. Also make sure you are at right altitude. 

 

BoS is worth the full price, especially now with the career mode coming. Sims are difficult to produce and customer base is small. So you have to put the price in right perspective. Devs have to make a living you know 

Edited September 25, 2016 by Zami

[ravenmorpheus]

Oh, I always forget that Start edition.

 

Targets are flying near action point for sure. You just missed them. You can see the plane markers on the map even in the expert difficulty which makes things little easier. Also make sure you are at right altitude. 

 

BoS is worth the full price, especially now with the career mode coming. Sims are difficult to produce and customer base is small. So you have to put the price in right perspective. Devs have to make a living you know 

 

Well I'm not going to argue with you, that's your point of view.  Suffice it to say that devs must be living in luxury these days because compared to 10 to 15 years ago we're paying more for less and often getting broken out of the box games, and I don't buy it that the market has shrunk as an excuse for lack of profit and prices being high, because flight sims have always been a niche with a relatively small customer base.  And lets not forget that professional game devs don't just work solely on flight sims these days.

 

Anyway back to my original problem with not finding targets - when I was flying earlier on Expert the map wasn't available, unless you mean the one which is accessible via O, and that's not helpful because you end up switching away from the cockpit view.  Anyhow I didn't see any markers for targets on there either.

[von_Tom]

1. Inflation

 

2. Increased development cost because of technological improvements and need for extra manpower

 

3. Smaller target market compared with the early 2000s

 

Easy to see why the game cost is higher now. IL2:1946 then CLOD (for all its woes) and now BOS/BOM have a fantastic cost to hours' enjoyment ratio and personally speaking it is worth paying the premium price.

 

Edit - it's also worth appreciating the need for buying in early to provide funds for development. This needs a whole hunk of trust but so far we haven't been let down.

 

Back to the problem you're having - in expert mode you'll have to hunt around or just watch where your wingman/men go.

 

von Tom

Edited September 25, 2016 by von_Tom

[LLv24_Zami]

 

Anyway back to my original problem with not finding targets - when I was flying earlier on Expert the map wasn't available, unless you mean the one which is accessible via O, and that's not helpful because you end up switching away from the cockpit view.  Anyhow I didn't see any markers for targets on there either.

Yes, you have to use the big map in expert mode. Just have a quick glimpse on the map every now and then. You can use level autopilot if you fear losing control of your plane, LShift+A. There should be red plane markers when enemy come in range. Might be some bug if they are not sometimes visible. Use the zoom when scanning for targets. And as von_Tom said above, wingmen go straight for the targets when arriving action point so follow them. Hope this helps!

[Custard]

I was playing on Expert difficulty though.  I will from now on be playing on Normal difficulty as I note there are markers to show where targets are.  It's a shame you can't customize the campaign difficulty.

 

You'll grind a lot faster on Expert missions, you can press "o" for a map that shows the objective location. Enemy planes are even painted on the map in red during intercept missions, once you reach the target area!

 

(if you can't see icons on the o map, press "i".

Edited September 25, 2016 by Custard

[Daff]

Hi

 

Wasn't sure where to post this...

 

Recently bought Battle of Stalingrad and I've just tried the first mission of the campaign.  Flying a Lagg-3 I took off, followed the waypoints to the action point but there were no enemy aircraft, I circled for a couple of minutes, and then followed the flight plan home, when I got to the exit point a message said I had completed the mission, so I proceeded to land.  Upon landing (not very well and ending up spinning into the grass) nothing happened, so I pressed escape and ended the mission, but the game says I failed the mission and I'm back at the map having to choose an airfield and do the same mission again!

 

So, where/how do I find the enemies at the action point?

 

Can you not advance the campaign without completing objectives?  In the real world pilots quite often came back without engaging the enemy and the world carried on.

 

And shouldn't the mission end or some message given to say the mission is over once I've landed?

 

Thanks in advance, hope someone can help me get on in the campaign.

It's easy.

 

After the mission starts, dont touch anything, your on autopilot to the action point, you can adjust the throttle though. Have your map open, with the O button. And make sure you have your icons on with the i button. So map (o) and icons (i). BUT THERES MORE.

 

Okay now use the [ and ] keys to speed up time, and have the map open, when you reach and fly over the action point, you will see RED icons show up, sometimes it takes a few, also they dont fly right at you generally.

Edited September 25, 2016 by Foghorn

[Vroom]

He's right. I flew an intercept mission today and the same thing happened.

I went through the waypoints, got to the action point and nothing.

My wingmen and I flew around the action point for a while, I tried various hights and my icons were on.

Must be a bug.

[Thad]

That's just what happens when you take the risk of buying from an unapproved retailer. You'll just have to grind single player missions with time acceleration.

 

Buyer beware.   

[No601_Swallow]

The good news (and I know I'm in a minority of one) is that the "campaign" missions are great for practice. Yes, because they're "automatically generated" (Procedurally generated?) they lack "character, and can be dull or repetitive, but they're still good practice.

 

I'm still sympathetic to the original rationale - that most simmers just use the Quick Mission Generator to get their SP fix, and that the "campaign" could/should be an extension of that. If they'd called it something like the QMG+, I think it would have been accepted by the congregation. Obviously the "unlocks" thing (and yet again, I can see the logic they were experimenting with) was a terrible mistake, but I still admire the Campaign as an idea. It takes nothing away. It just adds to what we have.

 

Anyway, for "real" campaigns, the "Scripted Campaigns" are the way to go. The "official" campaigns are just great, but the -free!- community generated ones are also terrific. 

 

Plenty to do in this sim. Plenty to enjoy.

Edited January 5, 2018 by No601_Swallow

[CIA_Yankee_]

Doesn't bother me.  I fully admit I went looking for a bargain because I don't think BoS is currently worth the full price.  I'd pay the IL2 BoS Standard Edition price, $50, for a game like IL2 1946 - because there's tons of content (both stock and modded in) and, crucially, there's a dynamic campaign/career system which works well and there are good scripted campaigns also.  I'd be more likely to buy IL2 BoS at full price if it was more like IL2 1946 and/or also a study sim like DCS modules.

 

What was bothering me was that I wasn't able to complete a mission because I couldn't locate the air targets at the action point - there wasn't anything at all, or so it seemed.

 

I was playing on Expert difficulty though.  I will from now on be playing on Normal difficulty as I note there are markers to show where targets are.  It's a shame you can't customize the campaign difficulty.

 

Sounds to me like BoK will meet your criteria then. Dynamic career mode, coop multiplayer mission generation, client-side MP hosting, and so on.

 

You won't find a more complete package than BoK.

[senseispcc]

Try some "scripted Campaigns" this are more imersive than the regular campaigns.   

[Herne]

Try some "scripted Campaigns" this are more imersive than the regular campaigns. 

 

I do have a very fond memory of one of the scripted missions on the moscow campaign though, you have to taxi to the runway with your wing leader while your airfield is under attack, It was quite exciting.

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2018 by =11=herne

[DaGengster]

He's right. I flew an intercept mission today and the same thing happened.

I went through the waypoints, got to the action point and nothing.

My wingmen and I flew around the action point for a while, I tried various hights and my icons were on.

Must be a bug.

 

 

I think I know which mission OP was talking about.

The enemies were really low when I did it. The game had to fly up to 3000m and there were a few russian fighters at around 1000m where the last waypoint was.

The mission hes talking about isnt one of those auto generated missions, its a scripted mission in the BOS campaign for the Germans (for those who dont do SP, theres usually a single scripted mission per side per chapter thats supposed to tie into the history).

 

Tbh, I think they should have made one of the other scripted missions where you fly a Yak 1 on low fuel to another airport the first mission. It teaches the basics and is a lot easier and fitting for a first mission IMO.

Edited January 6, 2018 by DaGengster