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BF 109 response of ailerons ?? = zero to the left at 550 KMs/H ?


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If I look in external view.

I get asymmetric response of ailerons. ( I could be real ? maybe... i don´t know)

 

BUT, At full power at 540 to 560 kms per hour, the ailerons don´t respond to perform left rol.

I Never read something about not being able to do a rol to the left side at that speed. 

I expected  low elevator response , but can´t roll to the left  at full power over 540 -560 kms ??  :o:

Anyone notice that?

Posted

Hmm...

BF109 at 600 Km/h can roll either left or right here.

Left roll is very slightly slower than the right roll though (probably due to engine torque?)

I like the way ailerons are responding slower with increased speed.. The faster you go, the harder it rolls (because of wind forces applied on ailerons)

 

Lagg 3 is the same btw.

 

But with very high speeds, it's elevator down wich seems kind of neutralized with forces.

Would like to hear if it is accurate  :)

Posted (edited)

Hmm...  

BF109 at 600 Km/h can roll either left or right here.

Left roll is very slightly slower than the right roll though (probably due to engine torque?)

 

Thanks but..

 

At full power I can´t roll to the left 540 -560 kms/h and, this is fact I Never read something about thats.
This contradicts the Luftwaffe dive test in BF 109 F,  with ejection seat ;)  ..., this is fact .
 

The problem for BF  109F in dive test of Luftwaffe is noticed above 750 kms/h,   the BF 109F  reached 915 kms / h  ( TAS )in dive test, full  " trim "down....

Can you dive a  915 Km/h TAS ?

The Luftwaffe test were performed to save pilots lives, And know the capabilities of their aircraft.

 

My  apologizes, but something is VERY wrong. this is fact .

Edited by Mustang
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I tested it in a 45° angle dive at 600 Km/h. Don't know what to answer you more that 109 IS rolling left!

If you can't, it's probably a joystick/hardware problem?

 

But maybe you mean a vertical dive? If so i didn't tested...as well as 915 Km/h! (you were asking about 560 Km/h at first)

Posted

This is fact, Fifi is correct. I just rolled left in a dive from 2KM at 600km/h. This is fact. I managed a full left roll at almost 700km/h this is fact.

 

Nothing is wrong with the game.

 

Fifi is correct, this is fact.

Posted

At full power I can´t roll to the left 540 -560 kms/h and, this is fact I Never read something about thats.

 

i can roll left at 800km/h

 

it's obviously a problem with your stick or settings

Posted (edited)
Really thanks boys !

 

My stick is fine I´m sure, Works perfectly at any Flight sim.  :happy:

 

I performed a dive from 4000 mts then I go  to leveled flight at deck. FULL POWER.

I can´t roll to left at FULL POWER also at 560 kms / h, I Never read something about thats.

Edited by Mustang
Posted

Well, when you are the only one...

Posted (edited)

Full power (full throttle forward)?

See below...speed gauge stuck more than 700 Km/h (at this point, maybe 800 or even 900 i don't know!) and throttle full forward...was still able to roll to the left  :)

 

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Only thing though...it's very hard on stick and it takes also long to roll fully! Better start upon 5000m...

 

EDIT: haha, gonna test with Lagg now...

Edited by Fifi
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:o:  Doing so with the Lagg was ok too...could roll to the left, but past 800 Km/h, i lost both ailerons, whole rudder and my elevator!! 

 

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Could be when i tried to pull out of the dive though...at first, didn't noticed i lost everything.

Pict was taken after first uncontrolled loop without controls parts.

Edited by Fifi
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Thanks FuriousMeow and Fifi.

Let me explain , I install  BOS and I don´t touch the joystick curves , all was in default settings

I flew the LaGG 3 without any problems, After the update I only Flew the BF 109, and I was thinking the problem is BF 109 FM     

Later

Then I test my Joystick with external software , all is OK  :mellow: , And works perfectly in RoF, CloD and IL2  :mellow: 

 

I will unistall BoS and install again maybe, I will can solve the problem.

 

Thanks again for the help.

Posted

Best of luck to you. No problem with rolling the 109 here either.

 

Cheers!

Posted (edited)

:o:  Doing so with the Lagg was ok too...could roll to the left, but past 800 Km/h, i lost both ailerons, whole rudder and my elevator!! 

 

 

 

Could be when i tried to pull out of the dive though...at first, didn't noticed i lost everything.

Pict was taken after first uncontrolled loop without controls parts.

800 in diving? in theory it would be impossible, in Il-2 1946, he is no more than 650 diving.

Edited by PabloSniper
Posted

 

Thanks FuriousMeow and Fifi.
Let me explain , I install  BOS and I don´t touch the joystick curves , all was in default settings
I flew the LaGG 3 without any problems, After the update I only Flew the BF 109, and I was thinking the problem is BF 109 FM     
Later
Then I test my Joystick with external software , all is OK  :mellow: , And works perfectly in RoF, CloD and IL2  :mellow: 
 
I will unistall BoS and install again maybe, I will can solve the problem.
 
Thanks again for the help.

 

Instead of reinstalling, have you checked the joystick curves in game to see you get maximum deflection? Just because it is calibrated out of the game or works in other games does not mean it will translate perfectly into the alpha version of this game.

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Instead of reinstalling, have you checked the joystick curves in game to see you get maximum deflection? Just because it is calibrated out of the game or works in other games does not mean it will translate perfectly into the alpha version of this game.

Thanks, yes  I know.   

but..

Returned after work, to fly the F4 again.
I check the responses curves in BoS, I don´t touch anything... And everything worked perfectly, the F4 flew too TOO well  :o: 
It is magic !! I'm very happy  :happy:
Edited by Mustang

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