Battle of Midway 1942 Plane Set (By me).

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Oh, I dont mind that much SB2U. My only desire is Judy as it had quite a few interesting situations during battle, nice article could be written about that. I might write about it actually It certainly had some minor input to the events and has some warm spot in my heart.

[mattebubben]

the F2A-3 is a must though together with the F4F when it comes to US fighters.

 

Since the F2A-3 was one of the most important (most numerous) fighters of the US forces at midway with the majority of Fighters based on midway being F2As.

 

so my hope/guess for the Us stable would be the F2A-3 the F4F (Either F4F-3 or F4F-4) as fighters and then the SBD and TBD for bombers with either a PBY or B-26 as the Collector edition aircraft.

 

Since those 4 core aircraft are VITAL for the battle of midway where as other aircraft like the PBY or B-26 etc fit the scenario but played a lesser part during the fighting due to numbers involved etc.

Edited September 14, 2016 by mattebubben

[Danziger]

What exactly is the poll about and where is the poll?

[SOLIDKREATE]

What exactly is the poll about and where is the poll?

 

 

Did you look above the post?

[BP_dFrog]

What about replacing G4M with G3M ?

G4M can come with another map/scenario as a regular plane later.

Edited September 15, 2016 by BP_dFrog

[SOLIDKREATE]

What about replacing G4M with G3M ?

G4M can come with another map/scenario as a regular plane later.

 

I suppose that can be possible.

[Lusekofte]

Battle of Midway growing on me, I would preferred New Guinea , but I am looking forward for some Kate torpedo missions and Devastator . I really liked doing it in IL 2 when ETO and eastern front got a bit boring 

Edited September 20, 2016 by 216th_LuseKofte

[Sev11]

Oh please create a flyable PBY Catalina!

I loved to fly her in FSX and it would be great to do some ballte related missions instead of "only" flying vom A to B.

Missions like "Submarine hunting", "scouting" or torpedo / bomb attacks on convois would be really nice.

 

Also the SBD-3 'Dauntless' is a must-have for carrier-operations.

 

I am very curious which planes the Devs will chose finally....

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

I'm pretty sure the first planeset is going to be very standard just like it was in BoS. Dauntless & Wildcat vs Zero & D3A2 comes to my mind. Either way I will be a happy person that's for sure

[kissklas]

 I have one addition, just for kicks. The Kawanishi H6K, or as I liked to call it in WT... the Tardigator! Herp derp...



Joke aside, it's a good list:)

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Mavis is cool, and it could carry torpedoes. In fact units were trained in torpedo attacks just like G4M units. But it has four engines so ... lets stick with Judy

[kissklas]

Mavis is cool, and it could carry torpedoes. In fact units were trained in torpedo attacks just like G4M units. But it has four engines so ... lets stick with Judy

 

It is very cool indeed. And the strange shape and engines towards the center on that large wingspan makes it very interesting. But Judy is probably a safer bet yes!

 

...although four engines would also be fun to have at some point

[Cybermat47]

I have one addition, just for kicks. The Kawanishi H6K, or as I liked to call it in WT... the Tardigator! Herp derp...

Joke aside, it's a good list:)

The flying bannana

[sinned]

I have a great idea on collectors plane for IJN.

Shinden with arresting hook.

 

Gosh.. money will flow.

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

Take out Catalina and that japanese seaplane and replace them with an oscar and a buffalo and we probably got the devs choice.

 

I'd swap the B26 with the Catalina, add the Oscar and Buffalo and call it good.

[SOLIDKREATE]

I don't think the Oscar was there or the Buffalo.

 

 

Here's a B-26 returning home from battle in Midway, June 4- 1942, torpedo attack on the IJN Akagi

 

 

Edited September 23, 2016 by II./ZG1_SPEKTRE76

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

There were certainly no Oscars there, or to be honest, anywhere else at that time than China, Burma, Japan and Thailand. But there quite a few Buffalos, Marines VMF-221 contributed to the battle effort by bringing 21 F2A-3s. Here is picture from pre-war training's showing one of the unlucky guys in his Brewster:

 

Also, B-26 attack was quite unsuccessful. The closest they were to doing any damage, was when one machine aimed directly at Akagi’s bridge, where Nagumo and his staff stared wide-eyed back at Maruder. Eventually and miraculously machine passed the ship and splashed in water nearby. Two badly damaged B-26 s limped back to Midway. 

[SOLIDKREATE]

Thanks for the great information Hiromachi. You are a connoisseur of knowledge for the Pacific War.

 

 

Edited September 24, 2016 by II./ZG1_SPEKTRE76

[I./JG1_Baron]

UPDATED both here and in post #1

 

 

 

 

 

Without Buffalo its not Battle of Midway.

Edited September 24, 2016 by I./JG1_Baron

[SOLIDKREATE]

Post #1 updated

 

 

 

 

 

[Matt]

Not sure if you suggest the Devastator or Avenger now, in any case, the Devastator is more appropriate for Midway and the Avenger can be added in future releases.

[Legioneod]

I'm all for this plane set, I'd love to see the Widowmaker in-game. It's one of my favorite medium bombers.

Edited September 26, 2016 by Legioneod

[SOLIDKREATE]

Had to dust off my Warthunder skin tools. This one is about 1/3 done. I just finished all of the service markings and national markings. I added the zinc chromate weathering. I'll be adding in more details as WT skins allow for 8K DDS files now. This is a TBF-1C from VT-8 coded 8-T-1, 4th June 1942 after an engagement with the IJN Akagi. Just getting some practice in before we see that Pacific in this sim.

 

 

 

[xvii-Dietrich]

Post #1 updated

This sort of defeats the purpose of the poll. Users will vote for something that then changes.

[SOLIDKREATE]

This sort of defeats the purpose of the poll. Users will vote for something that then changes.

 

 

Well, no this is the purpose of my poll. This way the DEV's can see what we really want that was historically there. It will help generate the most money. Thus keeping the sim alive and active. I'm not say that they will use it but it could help them focus on what should be done.

[TheNotoriousFNG]

I'm all for this plane set, I'd love to see the Widowmaker in-game. It's one of my favorite medium bombers.

Agreed. I'd love to fly the B-26; great to have for the eventual return to European/Med theaters.

 

Hiromachi, your knowledge of the Pacific theater never ceases to amaze. Thank you for sharing!

 

I'm for the Devastator over the Avenger.

[SOLIDKREATE]

POST #1 Updated with suggestions.

[Legioneod]

Agreed. I'd love to fly the B-26; great to have for the eventual return to European/Med theaters.

 Agreed, it's definitely a great medium bomber that could take a lot of damage. It also has a great bomb-load at 5,800lbs (though they usually didn't load that much)

It also had the lowest loss rate of any US bomber.

 

It'd be a dream to see in-game, I'd take a B-26 over a B-25 anyday.

[SOLIDKREATE]

 Agreed, it's definitely a great medium bomber that could take a lot of damage. It also has a great bomb-load at 5,800lbs (though they usually didn't load that much)

It also had the lowest loss rate of any US bomber.

 

It'd be a dream to see in-game, I'd take a B-26 over a B-25 anyday.

 

 

 

And it can carry a Mk.13 Torpedo

I hope that the Torpedo mechanics are as such that this video below would be more than relevant:

 

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Te6qsBKmI

 

 

 

 

Oh and here is the new set:

 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2016 by II./ZG1_SPEKTRE76

[Cybermat47]

SPEKTRE, I think it might make more sense to have the G4M as the standard bomber, and the Ki-21 as the collector's aircraft, as the G4M is listed in the Midway order of battle, while the Ki-21 isn't.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midway_order_of_battle

 

Also, apparently the Avenger and Judy (in a reconnaissance role) were at the battle in limited numbers (6x Avengers and 2x Judies). They could make for good collector's aircraft.

Edited September 28, 2016 by Cybermat47

[SOLIDKREATE]

Oh I only put the Ki-21 in there because it was used all over the Pacific theater. I'll adjust the plane set when I get home.

[Lusekofte]

For midway there got to be Wildcat, Dauntless and Devastator , it simply cannot be believable without it.

And Zero , Val and Kate, Those six are for sure.

 

The rest is up for guesses , I would think a Betty and a B 25 is logical and maybe  these two as premium planes

 

 

[Legioneod]

From what I've read the B-25 wasn't at midway, the B-26 was though.

[SOLIDKREATE]

18th IRS Squadron:

 

 

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Ki-46 is high speed reconnaissance plane that certainly could not take-off from any aircraft carrier  

[SOLIDKREATE]

Really great stuff on the CBI

 

 

 

http://www.cbi-history.com/part_xvi_b.html

[Lusekofte]

Ki-46 is high speed reconnaissance plane that certainly could not take-off from any aircraft carrier

 

I know but there must be a little island it can take off from and it got a fighter version that came later, but that would be like the JU 87 G we got at stalingrad

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

Ki-46-IIIb that you mention was a high altitude fighter that got into production in October 1944 and it was used for the air defense of Japan against B-29s. Not quite exactly type of a machine necessary for Midway. 

So far A6M2, D3A1, B5N2 are mandatory for Midway. That leaves two spots, one could be taken by G4M1 and other by D4Y1. Medium bombers (or PBY) fit in this occasion collectors edition. 

[StaB/Tomio_VR***]

This topic is funny : Midway occured in 1942, not 1943

 

Also you don't make a difference between IJN and IJA planes

 

did you think about where Betty/Sally will take off from cos they don't take off from a carrier and there is no island with a strip around...

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

That's only if Midway expansion would include only Midway map. Which I hope it wont since its really little in terms of workload, I'd hope and expect more than one map of which at least one would actually include some land with airfields.