Luftwaffe vs VVS vs Luftwaffe

[XQ_Lothar29]

Luftwafffe vs VVS vs Luftwaffe

 

 

Enjoy it

 

 

[Antiguo]

It is incredible .... irrefutable evidence

[XQ_Lothar29]

Sin afan de menospreciar el video, primero me gustaria que intentaran derribar un Ju88 o un Ju87 sin salir danados.

La punteria no es muy buena por nos cuesta a todos, los 109s tambien los he llenado de plomo y no caen mas aun con el motor humeando negro mal.

Con lo de la maniobra, no me parece que sea igual en uno que el otro el angulo de picado del 109 lo veo mas a cero, pero como digo esto es para discutir en una barra de un bar con unas cervezas y como amigos.

Now that you speak of the Ju 88, I have come forward to Upload a few of Shootdowns that have made me the Ju88 and Ju87. the angle of attack, no matter in getting G's, what matters are the speed. the Yak 1 in this video, obtains a speed , 690 Km/h. and Bf109 G2 Obtains 660Km/h. speed is more important

Sorry for use Inglish, necathor friend 

Edited September 3, 2016 by =3./JG3=Lothar29

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Edited September 3, 2016 by SYN_Haashashin

[SYN_Haashashin]

Mmmm guys, please translate all that to English or it wont stand long here, I will delete it. Spanish is not to be used in the English forum.

 

And remember, FM discussion is not allowed outside its place. So if you guys wanted to disscus that with this video, well, its the wrong place.

[HR_Tumu]

ok, sry for spanish comments. u have reasson mate.

 

 

My conclusion its you are veeeeery bad shoting lothar, and you can walk of live crashing to pe2               . hahahahahha im very bad person!!!

 

Now on seriously , shoting planes it’s a lottery ( like geramos was comment ). Anyway the planes you hit, don’t lose wings because are on slowly combat and don’t made any aggressive maneuver , it’s a slowly siccors combat, enemy plane take damage like nothing happens so im sure when enemy gain speed will lose the hit wings.

 

What happened to the pe2 its very strange.. ¿ what the hell success here??? Its strange and suspicious

 

By last, the test you made I think will be more easy appreciate speeds if u use  , in game helps that u show speed and altitude on digital numbers, low on screen… I have the feel the angle of bf its more aggressive than angle whit yak, when you pull down aileron control , the speed of bf not its 650 km/h, I think its near 700 km/h . I doubt about it because I don’t see well the speed indicator. Anymay, on 13:04 minute , before bf being leveled , the needle on speed clock are on 690 km/h ( if im not wrong ) . This maneuver its imposible to yak too at 700 km/h, not because “g” force break wings, its imposible because u lose all the controls and continue diving like stone .

 

The flaps issue ( geramos ) , I think this video not was manipulated, according to the images, I see on tecnochat flaps are on when lothar start maneuver , but if u see external view the flaps aren’t down ( and don’t work ) maybe becacause high speed. Whatching the video , on firs blackout, we arrived to 12:05 minute, here on external view u can see flaps aren’t down. After on second blackout or external view sequence , get to 12:08/12:09 minute, and now u can see flaps down ( maybe after lose some speed flaps can go down )

 

I repeat, the test about exit of dive its very interesting, if both planes go out of dive at 650 Km/h and only bf lose wings , I don’t think are very real, but it’s a very good evasive tactic.

 

Thx lothar for the video-analysis I have entertained a good time Sry for bad English.

Edited September 3, 2016 by RedEye_Tumu

[ECV56_Necathor]

Im apologize to wrote the comments on spanish.

 

Regards, 

[Turban]

Like I said in the youtube comments about the last part when the Bf 109 losses its wing :


You put the stabilizer to 100 % !  You are not supposed to do that in a high speed high G dive !  Nothing to do with the plane.  The stabiliser increases the pitch effect and so the Gloads drastically, that's why the wing broke.

Do you have the stabiliser on your pitch axis ?  Or did you put the stabiliser at 100% manually ?

 

Anyway, in a normal high speed high g dive the 109 doesn't lose its wing.