1CGS BlackSix Posted August 29, 2016 1CGS Posted August 29, 2016 Dear pilots! The time has come to decide what camo patterns Yak-1b gets. Last years' cooperation with players turned out to be fruitfull, so we'd like to invite you to join us in selecting those skins for new Collector planes. Your knowledge can actually help us to choose better content for the game. The rules of participation: How to post a suggestion:- recall a cool-looking or a famous camo pattern- prepare images of that camo pattern you're suggesting- publish the image(s) showing explicitly that very skin- add a description of the camo pattern Keep in mind:- skins that have never been seen above or near Moscow or Stalingrad during WWII are okay- camos with emblems or pilot's kill marks are okay- Polish, French, Italian and other national camos are okay Collection of your suggestions will continue till next Monday, September 5, 2016. You can discuss the camo patterns here Yak-1b and Ju 52 skins discussion
NN_RugbyGoth Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 You should definitively put a Normandie Niemen skin with this one! 10
216th_Jordan Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) White 23 Yak-1b of Lydia Litvyak Sadly I'm unable to find better consisting sites for this camo pattern, any help appreciated. Edited August 29, 2016 by 216th_Jordan 8
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 29, 2016 1CGS Posted August 29, 2016 White 5 of 427 IAP, lt. P.M.Chuvelev. Airfield Sokolniki, August 1943. http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1060.0 http://modelingmadness.com/review/allies/cleaver/tmc32yak1.htm 4
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 29, 2016 1CGS Posted August 29, 2016 Yakovlev Yak-1b given by collective farmer F.P. Golovaty to pilot B.N. Yeryomin in December 1942. The plane was displayed this way in Kirov Square in Saratov in summer 1944. 2
Luger1969 Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 Sergei Lugansky, CO of the 152 Guards Fighter Regiment, an ace with 37 kills http://modelingmadness.com/review/allies/ussr/laskodiyak1b.htm 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 29, 2016 1CGS Posted August 29, 2016 Yakovlev Yak-1b “17 Red”. The plane’s paintwork was restored with the use of photographs where one can see both the gift inscription and the side number, which is rare. A number of sources attribute Yak-1b side number 17 to the Normandie Squadron, which is quite possible because several aircraft with such inscriptions were indeed given to the French in January 1943 when the unit was being activated in Ivanovo (mind you, Ivanovo was far enough from Stalingrad). The very same sources attribute Yak-1b side number 17 to a specific pilot, Marcel Ives Bizien, probably on the grounds that there is a photograph showing the French pilot getting out of the cockpit onto the left wing of the aircraft bearing the same inscription, although the side number cannot be seen in the photograph. It seems there is little reason to attribute the aircraft to the pilot because (a) there were several Yak-1s bearing such an inscription in the squadron and (b) almost all of the French pilots of the first group flew the planes allocated for their conversion training. The prop spinner can also be painted black. Yakovlev Yak-1b - the very first of the gift Yak-1b aircraft (No. 34104). It was given to Hero of the Soviet Union Maj. V.I. Shishkin, officer commanding the 291st IAP (other sources state it was the 581st IAP). At the time, the aircraft had a different colour scheme, with this one given to it in the regiment. Its side number remains unknown, though most probably it existed. 1 PLM "City of Warsaw", Grigoryevskoye, summer/autumn 1943. 2
Luger1969 Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) Hi B6. Post 5 is a must. in my opinion. Some included repeats. Edited August 29, 2016 by Chandalier1969
102nd-YU-shtele Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 Yugoslav 111th and 112th Fighter Regiment Polish 1. Figter Regiment "Warszawa" Soviet 812 IAP +1 for Lilya Litvyak's White 23 3
Cybermat47 Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) A 1M rather than a 1B, but that shark mouth is just too good. This 1B is flashier than the founder's skins for BoS! Edited August 29, 2016 by Cybermat47 7
ShamrockOneFive Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Yak-1B (Serial 08110) of Major Boris Nikolaevich Eryomin 31 GIAP Stalingrad Front, summer 1943 The same aircraft was also painted in a overall white scheme during the winter but I can't find a good image of it online. 2
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 30, 2016 1CGS Posted August 30, 2016 Unit: 812th IAPSerial: 39Pilot - regiment's navigator Capt.Popov Ivan Feoktistovich. September 1943. "Freed Donbass" Unit: 3rd AE, 267th IAP Serial: 41 270th IAP, 203rd IAD, 2nd Ukrainian Front. November 1943. Camouflage: upper surfaces - Medium Blue-Gray (FS36307), under surfaces - light blue (FS36622). Unit: GC 3 "Normandie"Serial: 11Pilot - Albert Durand (French). Mosal'sk, April 1943 5
Jason_Williams Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 Gonna be so many cool skins for this one. Both official and custom. Can't wait. Jason 5
Y29.Layin_Scunion Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Some very interesting artwork supposedly by the pilot himself, Lt. Fotii Morozov. Proclaimed one of the "best recon pilots" by his unit commander 2nd only to a man who he constantly flew sorties with, Lt. Alexei Reshetov. He survived the war with 35 aircraft destroyed and 857 sorties under his belt. Bad ass. I will say this is the only picture I could find. Edited August 30, 2016 by Y-29.Layin_Scunion 4
EAF19_Marsh Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 What (if any) was the reason behind the switch from green / black to grey?
1CGS BlackSix Posted August 31, 2016 Author 1CGS Posted August 31, 2016 What (if any) was the reason behind the switch from green / black to grey? Soviet industry had big problems in the production of green enamel due to lack of ability to make some components. Production of gray enamel was much easier. Also, the gray camouflage is less noticeable at big height that it's important for fighters. 3
Brano Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 Soviet industry had big problems in the production of green enamel due to lack of ability to make some components. Production of gray enamel was much easier. Also, the gray camouflage is less noticeable at big height that it's important for fighters. I will just add to the info from Black6. Problem of separated wing upper layer of linen during flight on La-5s and also Yaks in spring of 1943 was caused not by wrong design,but by not following technological process.Factories exchanged important component of Ash-22 filler (lead yellow pigment),used to treat surface prior to applying the paint,with less deficit iron minimum pigment.Without authorisation.Not noticed during winter cold weather it started to appear during hot spring and summer days, leading to high stress of the upper layer,cracking the surface and letting water and humidity to do their job.This eventually translated into change of camouflage schemes,as deficit lead yellow pigment was also used to produced well known dark/ light green camouflage, to usage of largely available grey pigments.From mid 1943 till 45 it was well known new light/dark grey camouflage of soviet airplanes. VVS also quit applying white colors during winters of 43/44 and 44/45. 2
Obelix Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Yak 1B du GC 3 Normandie Niémen - Monkounino - mars 1943 Avion de Marcel Albert. 3
707shap_Srbin Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 111 југословенски ваздухопловни ловачки пук (111th Yugoslav vighter regiment), spring 1945. Yak-1bm Nr.13, serial number №13–163, 1 Pułk Lotnictwa Myśliwskiego (1st Fighter Regiment) Description: From pathriot of Poland, prof. Wolf Messing, to polish pilot. Yak-1bm Nr.13, serial number №13–163, 1 Pułk Lotnictwa Myśliwskiego (1st Fighter Regiment) 2
kissklas Posted September 3, 2016 Posted September 3, 2016 White 23 Yak-1b of Lydia Litvyak Sadly I'm unable to find better consisting sites for this camo pattern, any help appreciated. +1. This one would be great. Awesome pilot who died far too young:) 3
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