Chief_Mouser Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) $20 each? Really? I bought the Standard edition of early access BoM because I didn't really want the P-40 and Mc202 back then, but always intended to pick them up when they became a bit more relevant. But $50 for the whole Standard Edition (8 a/c, maps, missions, etc) and $40 for two more aircraft? Not at all value for money, so I guess that they will stay AI-only for me for quite a long while yet. So, here I sit, saving my dosh for the Ju52 which I will just HAVE to have, and waiting for the half-price anniversary sale next year! Cheers. PS in case any of the players on the US side of the pond think that $20/$40 dollars isn't a lot, well it bloody well is here. Comparing US to UK prices things always cost the same in dollars to you as it did in pounds to us. Roughly 50% more expensive in real terms. However, since we 'all' voted to leave the EU the dear old pound has plummeted and prices in $ get more expensive to us every day. . Edited August 10, 2016 by 216th_Cat
6./ZG26_McKvack Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) It is expensive for a reason but not over-priced. Its a great way to support the devs and they are all high quality planes. Also there are many sales each year where the collector planes are really cheap. Edited August 10, 2016 by 6./ZG26_McKvack 1
Livai Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 But $50 for the whole Standard Edition (8 a/c, maps, missions, etc) and $40 for two more aircraft? Go Premium it is much more cheaper and has the Unlock Button! You save $10 for whatever you want to buy next..... You payed $10 too much and need to unlock things is this what hurts you the most? The Premium Bundle Collector planes cost $15 each and why the non-bundle collector planes cost $20 who knows what the reason behind this is. Maybe someone need the $5 for something else.
II/JG17_HerrMurf Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 It is a very fair price but there are always the sales as well. DCS and even some FSX custom aircraft are more expensive. You will have to wait a while for the first BOM sale but you will probably be able to pick aircraft up for $10 pop. If that's still too rich, I and others will likely stage give aways that correspond with those sales. Gotta be first in line and there are also some minor stipulations for my particular gifting (no prior gifts, own the appropriate theater, etc).
mort Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 Go Premium it is much more cheaper and has the Unlock Button! You save $10 for whatever you want to buy next..... If I read the announcement correctly, everyone now has access to the unlock button, not just premium account holders.
Chief_Mouser Posted August 10, 2016 Author Posted August 10, 2016 Go Premium it is much more cheaper and has the Unlock Button! You save $10 for whatever you want to buy next..... You payed $10 too much and need to unlock things is this what hurts you the most? The Premium Bundle Collector planes cost $15 each and why the non-bundle collector planes cost $20 who knows what the reason behind this is. Maybe someone need the $5 for something else. No that's not the problem. The unlocks are irrelevant now it seems, so we can all ignore them. Besides, I quite enjoyed achieving them; it made the SP 'campaign' a little bit more interesting. And I didn't pay too much for the a/c as I haven't bought them. You will have to wait a while for the first BOM sale but you will probably be able to pick aircraft up for $10 pop. If that's still too rich, I and others will likely stage give aways that correspond with those sales. Gotta be first in line and there are also some minor stipulations for my particular gifting (no prior gifts, own the appropriate theater, etc). The gifting is very generous Murf, thanks, but I'll probably get one/them in the sale when it arrives. (I can afford them; I'm just being tight!) By that time we might know what the next theatre is and, just say, it's Murmansk (or the Aleutians!) then I'm going to need a P-40. If it's Malta then I'll need the Macchi. I never flew every plane that ended up in Il-2 HSFX or RoF, so am tending to be very scenario specific in this one. Not flown the Fw190 in BoS yet, although I do own it. Cheers.
1CGS BlackSix Posted August 10, 2016 1CGS Posted August 10, 2016 If I read the announcement correctly, everyone now has access to the unlock button, not just premium account holders. Yes, Standard Edition owners now can unlock all weapon modifications through our website without playing the campaign.
=FI=Blue2 Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) That's how I understood it, BlackSix, and it still seemed this way when I checked yesterday, but I wasn't sure so thanks for confirming! The unlocks are irrelevant now it seems, so we can all ignore them. Besides, I quite enjoyed achieving them; it made the SP 'campaign' a little bit more interesting. So, Cat, good news: the unlocks are still in play if you want them to be - for all but the "collector planes." So, you should find that your FW is now fully unlocked, but all your other ['standard' BOM or BOS] planes are NOT unlocked, and won't be unless/until you go to the web site & choose the option to bypass them there... i.e. the option we had prior to this patch. Edited August 10, 2016 by =FI=Blue2
Freycinet Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 How can 20$ be over-priced for an extremely well-modelled plane (3D-model, dynamic model AND flight model!) that comes with a full scenario and relevant maps in addition to strong single- and multi-player experiences? - Remember back when you would have to fork out 50$ for single planes in Microsoft Flight Simulator? You know, the sim that was axed by its parent company? 20$ will hardly get you a cinema ticket now-a-days... 2
707shap_Srbin Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 .. the dear old pound has plummeted and prices in $ get more expensive to us every day. . Welcome to the club Now You know what we - russkies - felt some time ago... Two years ago...
=362nd_FS=Hiromachi Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 I feel it every day with Polish Zloty, the recent events in politics and economy in Europe threw Dollars into outer space and for the same items I have to pay 20-25 % more. For some 10 $ is enough to get a ticket to a cinema, for others is amount of money they spend in entire week. Anyway, those prices might be slightly higher than expected. Personally I was expecting something closer to Rise of Flight store (4.99 $ to 7.99$, so for BoS something closer to 9.99 $ to 14.99$). Still, its generally speaking not a bad price and its hard to be disappointed IMO.
SCG_Space_Ghost Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 $20 each? -snip- I spent $60 on an F5-E a week ago and that wasn't overpriced for what it is. With the amount of effort and risk/reward involved in flight sim development, $20 an aircraft is an absolutely fair price for what you get. $99 for early access to BO(insert) has been a steal both times I paid for it too. 5
GrendelsDad Posted August 10, 2016 Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) This pricing model will allow for more obscure aircraft to be built as well. Maybe even some tank/truck/anti-air battery DLC ( I would love to be able to jump into a flak gun when air base is under attack) down the road as well. Which to me, sounds like a plan Stan. Edited August 10, 2016 by II./ZG1_GrendelsDad
pilotpierre Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 I think $20 is a very fair price for a good product and to increase the coffers for future add ons and planes.
Feathered_IV Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 It's not so much that the Collectors aircraft are over priced. I think its more a matter of the Premium edition being under priced. 1
Gambit21 Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Anyone who thinks $20 is a lot of money needs to sit down with a 3D program and start modeling for a while. As a 3D modeler, and someone who does WWII aircraft to boot I can tell you that the amount of work involved is insane just on the modeling/texturing end. Then you have the much larger task of flight model, damage model, etc. If we got something like say an add-on PBY Catalina in the future, I'd expect a plane like that to cost even a bit more - and it would still be more than fair. Remember these guys do this for a living, they pay bills, eat, take care of their families etc. If we want them to make nice things for us, we need to pay for it. Feathered - exactly. 1
ACG_daffy_ Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Yes. It really is a lot of money for some pixels. Yes, everyone is going to tell you how much time and effort goes into making the pixels work "correctly" when you wish them to. Yes, everyone is going to jump up and down and talk about 'Those who create for us' being more than deserving of your insignificant contribution of a mere $20. Yes, if you want to play with those pixels, then you will need to pay what 'Those who create for us' have determined according to their business model, is an appropriate price for consumption. No. The congregation which upholds 'Those who create for us' will not yield to your concerns. No. The pixels will not...ever...be anything more than pixels. No. It is not an investment that will pay for itself one day. No. You can not play with the pixels which 'Those who create for us' provide until you give to them your consumption fee. .....No. There is no need to explain the labors and toils that 'Those who create for us' endure. No. Theirs are no more or less important than any other in this realm. They make a product...and sell it. If we want it, then we pay for it. Me, personally, I just bought the whole damn thing in one shot. Got it over with at the start.
Gambit21 Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Anyway....it costs money to make a plane. Pretty simple.
Juancio Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 $20 might be a fair price for the La5, Mc202 and P40 but don't waste your money on the Fw190, the thing is bloody awful.
Jade_Monkey Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 This pricing model will allow for more obscure aircraft to be built as well. Maybe even some tank/truck/anti-air battery DLC ( I would love to be able to jump into a flak gun when air base is under attack) down the road as well. Which to me, sounds like a plan Stan. Id love to man an 88 AAA
Gambit21 Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 I'm going to watch a real Storch fly in a few weeks - would love one in the sim. 4
BlitzPig_EL Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 What would you do with it? Other than get shot down all the time, and not just by VVS fighters, but by every vehicle that has a single machine gun mounted on it.
Feathered_IV Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 What would you do with it? Other than get shot down all the time, and not just by VVS fighters, but by every vehicle that has a single machine gun mounted on it. Actually, I've been putting together some edited screenshots of the game for a little pictorial presentation of the many things you could do with a flyable Storch in BoS. Perhaps I should get a wriggle on and finish them? 1
Gump Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 well, it is certainly going to prevent everyone from having them. you are going to need to really want a plane to spend that kind of coin on it. and paring the cost down to a single $20 is assuming that a single purchase is the whole concern - which is NOT the real case. costs like this will add up quickly in such a game. if this is the only source of income for the devs, I feel sorry for them. I think that normally gaming devs have a variety of revenue streams (multiple games new and old). id like to see them prosper, but the value of a single plane is gonna cause some head scratching for some (many?) customers. 1
Jason_Williams Posted August 11, 2016 Posted August 11, 2016 Our pricing of Collector Planes is in line with the market. Look at other sims for a comparison like FSX, DCS etc. We also run periodic sales etc. to lower the average cost. Jason 6
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