Game version 2.003 discussion: BOM release, new features

[Brano]

You are welcome

[Irgendjemand]

Anyone else experiencing lockups after a while flying on a dogfight server?

First it gets really choppy and then it just stops working and gives a blackscreen.

Around an hour of gameplay is finde then it starts to lock up.

Edited August 12, 2016 by Irgendjemand

[Nil]

Congrats to release!   I will try it when I find time, (and my HOTAS)

[Jade_Monkey]

Anyone else experiencing lockups after a while flying on a dogfight server?

First it gets really choppy and then it just stops working and gives a blackscreen.

Around an hour of gameplay is finde then it starts to lock up.

Sounds like a possible memory issue. Have you monitored the % RAM usage? Could you be running out?

[mpdugas]

News on 2.003 update, full text

You can ask new questions in this thread

 

 

6. If you bought Battle of Moscow on our website earlier and wish to convert it to the Steam version, you will be able to do so on next Monday, August 15. Please note that since Battle of Moscow on Steam is a DLC and not an independent game you'll need to have Battle of Stalingrad activated on your Steam account to play it. You'll receive a Steam key for Battle of Moscow DLC.

 

 

Can I still buy the premium version of BoM on this website and be able, on Monday, August 15, 2016, to convert it to Steam?

 

I ask because you have said "If you bought Battle of Moscow on our website earlier...", so, I know I can be kinda literal at times, so I was just wondering if it meant I might be too late and would have to wait.

 

I'd like to have the simulator available on both channels if possible; I already have BoS on Steam.

 

Thanks for having patience with my questions, I'm really enjoying these titles.

Edited August 12, 2016 by mpdugas

[Blitzen]

Does this mean that if I want to have the skins unlocked I shouldn't unlock right now, or will the skins be automatically added in the future for those who unlock now thru site as well?

I wondered the same thing...I've never had the skins unlock but have always had to do it through campaign missions....I think this is the same for everyone though.

[Roast]

I was wondering about this

 

15. IL-2 armored cockpit now protects from explosion fragments even when opened.

 

Now, am I missing something as this sounds a bit odd.

[Roast]

I had the same reaction. My guess is that there was a bug where the cockpit was treated by the sim as completely unarmored when the canopy was opened? Or maybe the armor panels in the canopy were not accounted for once it was open, when in reality they would still protect against fragments coming in from behind and to the side?

 

Could be, but that would mean that the cockpit went from unprotected when either shut or opened to protected either shut or opened.

That doesn't exactly sound like an improvement ..

[=FEW=ayamoth89]

Pretty good point.

You should be considering posting this request in questions for Developers section, so we could have an answer on this one

Thank you for the advise, done!

[JG300_Olrik]

Anyone else experiencing lockups after a while flying on a dogfight server?

First it gets really choppy and then it just stops working and gives a blackscreen.

Around an hour of gameplay is finde then it starts to lock up.

Smells like a graphic card failure coming. Check the cooling system of your GPU, blow the dust and monitor temperatures.

[gx007]

I prefer the internal guns from the earlier patch. This is too loud.

 

Devs- what about a preferences selection choice like GFX or slider similar audio for MGs?    (1) realistic or muffled (2) in-between  (3) loud

 

Good work on the patch! 

[-TBC-AeroAce]

I also do not like the new gun sounds. Too clinky + all types seem to sound the same to me.

 

I think the physical quality may have increased but to my ear it sounds worse although it might be a case of getting used to it

[Sokol1]

Guys, can you add a key to select between different tanks? Because, in case of damage, it will be useful to use the damaged tank first before it runs out of fuel. And here comes the second problem: with your automatic tanks selector, you run out of fuel with only one tank damaged and it's really arcade/irrealistic!

 

DD # 120 - To do - Complex tasks:

 

25. Make fuel system simulation more complex (more detailed tanks system, allow player to control engine flow and control fuel amount manually, more detailed fuel leaks and self-sealing process, fire probablity based on remaining amount of fuel inert gas pressurization, external fuel tanks.

Edited August 12, 2016 by Sokol1

[Virus*]

BOM was offered as DLC on Steam because otherwise it will be a separate product with two separate pages and two separate communities, forums etc. dividing users instead over everyone seeing the same information in one place. Neither option is ideal Steam.

 

Jason

Ok, i am out for holidays so i can't check, but i have boson steam and bought bom early access on your site...until it was in early access i could use bom planes map amd campaign im Bos... now?I have to convert my Bom key to Steam (as i did for Bos) or i can continue playing this way? Thanks

[Jade_Monkey]

Ok, i am out for holidays so i can't check, but i have boson steam and bought bom early access on your site...until it was in early access i could use bom planes map amd campaign im Bos... now?I have to convert my Bom key to Steam (as i did for Bos) or i can continue playing this way? Thanks

 

Continue to play from BOS. You will have both BOS and BOM content for now.

[III/JG2Gustav05]

Do you guys really think current machine guns sound are great? This new sound like a very low fire rate weapon does. Could we keeps previous sound for German machine guns (like MG15, MG81)? 

[keeno]

Gustav,

 

yes! I think the new gun sounds are great, maybe not totally realistic as to how it would be inside the cockpit with a huge engine banging away upfront but very satisfying to hit the trigger and get that fantastic sound of MG/cannon fire. I've been doing QMB ground attacks with infinite ammo just to hear the new sounds and blow stuff up, I love it! (all subject to personal preference though)

 

Cheers

[El_Babuino]

I was wondering about this

 

15. IL-2 armored cockpit now protects from explosion fragments even when opened.

 

Now, am I missing something as this sounds a bit odd.

Aha-ha, folks, looks like you really dont know how it game works. And how many strange and unrealistics things it have. Dont worry, less know - better sleep.

[CisTer-dB-]

 

Do you guys really think current machine guns sound are great? This new sound like a very low fire rate weapon does. Could we keeps previous sound for German machine guns (like MG15, MG81)? 

 

No they don't, we shouldn't be able the ear the high frequency (too metallic) that much, it should be muffled. The realistic sound should be like low frequency "thump thump thump" with airframe vibration depending of the caliber. As it it now and like it was before in a certain extend more like "video game" sound.   

Edited August 13, 2016 by ATAG_dB

[mpdugas]

This whole IL-2 series is a really nice blend of attractive-but-playable graphics combined with semi-realistic game-play.  It is easily accessible and uncomplicated, while delivering a satisfying emotional experience.

 

The various flight models are relatively aligned and coherent, so that the interactive performance of the vehicles is believable, and it does not suffer from the wide variations in flight performance like the other 'simulator' (e.g. DCSW) which makes interactions between an arcade-like airplane and a semi-realistic airplane so unpredictable and unpleasant.

 

There are other simulators out there (e.g. Steel Beasts Pro) that are ostensibly more technically precise but considerably less compelling because mathematical precision has dominated the feeling of the 'simulator'.  For instance, the tanks module in the IL-2 versions is simply less realistic but much more fun to engage in; I am hoping that it will show up in the single-player version someday.

 

I tried RoF first, just to see if it had the right mix of difficulty and enjoyment.  It reminds me very much of the older Red Baron 3D series by Dynamix, particularly when the 'Full Canvas Jacket' mod was applied.

 

It was that experience which led me to buy these products.

Edited August 13, 2016 by mpdugas

[Mannaia]

Has anyone else encountered this bug?
Landing near the runway.

 

http://www.mediafire.com/view/pspha60eluvvh5w/graf_bug.jpg

Bethesda docet?

[Danziger]

Aha-ha, folks, looks like you really dont know how it game works. And how many strange and unrealistics things it have. Dont worry, less know - better sleep.

Honestly I'm happy they don't implement full realism. I would hate to see the devs send out some goons to beat me bloody and break my bones because I made a shitty landing... or worse, they could burn me alive when my plane catches fire.

 

I'd say the realism is fine right where it is.

[III/JG2Gustav05]

No they don't, we shouldn't be able the ear the high frequency (too metallic) that much, it should be muffled. The realistic sound should be like low frequency "thump thump thump" with airframe vibration depending of the caliber. As it it now and like it was before in a certain extend more like "video game" sound.   

I prefer the MG15 sound in CLOD. current sound is more like a M2HB does, Try the defense fire in Ju88 or He111 now,  the sound makes me feel very weird.

[Mannaia]

Stronk Soviet grass grows through airframes.

Bwahahahah

True!

[WWChunk]

Quick question on the skins.  I can put them on any AI aircraft in the QMB, but I can't put them on my plane.  Is that the way it is supposed to be, or are they still rolling this whole skin unlock thing out?

[Jade_Monkey]

They are ready for the P40 and Macchi 202, but the others are coming SOON. Otherwise you can unlock them via campaign.

[WWChunk]

Thanks Jade_Monkey!

[Highwayman]

Add Rift support and I'll buy straight away

[ShamrockOneFive]

Add Rift support and I'll buy straight away

 

It was announced that the team will be working on a DirectX11 update to the game engine. This is being done to bring support for VR as Rift requires DX11 and HTC Vive doesn't require but benefits massively from it.

[silvergun]

Hi 

 

It should not be possible today convert the key of BOM for the STEAM?

 

"...If you bought Battle of Moscow on our website earlier and wish to convert it to the Steam version, you will be able to do so on next Monday, August 15"

[Jade_Monkey]

Im guessing it's not quite ready? They will probably announce it.

[BlackSix]

Hi 

It should not be possible today convert the key of BOM for the STEAM?

"...If you bought Battle of Moscow on our website earlier and wish to convert it to the Steam version, you will be able to do so on next Monday, August 15"

Im guessing it's not quite ready? They will probably announce it.

We're finishing work on this option, but we need a little more time. Please be patient, you'll be able to convert the keys approximately in 12-13 hours.

[silvergun]

Thanks for the answer, keep the good work 

[SAG]

Game still freezes when doing any form of window switching (task manager reads 0% cpu usage for 30 seconds to 2 minutes)

 this happened to me only on W10 so i came back to W7

Edited August 16, 2016 by SAG

[BlackSix]

If you bought Battle of Moscow on our website and wish to convert it to the Steam version, you can do it in your profile on our website https://il2sturmovik.com/account/

This key swap program only applies to IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Moscow keys purchased during the Early Access and Pre-Order periods prior to August 9, 2016.

 

Please note that since Battle of Moscow on Steam is a DLC and not an independent game you'll need to have Battle of Stalingrad activated on your Steam account to play it. You'll receive a Steam key for Battle of Moscow DLC.

 

How to get BOM on Steam

[[DBS]Prody]

i tried some He111 bombing missions in BoM campaign and some of them are simply unplayable unless you are the masochist type .

Now, in some missions you have other He111 with you  and those missions are ok because they are providing some cover and the Soviet fighters will not focus only on your plane. But  solo missions are simply silly , you take off all alone with a lousy 109 as escort . If you make it to the target zone (sometimes they gang up on you quite soon after the waypoint , i guess it depends how far behind the enemy lines is the target) you will get attacked by four Soviet fighters .

I will upload a track as an example , over the target four Soviet fighters pop up, my escort is chased by two of them and the other two go after me, after some time the other two join  the party . I'm being chased deep behind German lines and, in the end, since they didn't managed to deliver some big damage one of them decides to go all kamikaze and finish the deal . This mission was actually quite lucky up to a point, most of the time they fire much better and take me down pretty fast .

Now...are we supposed to survive this kind of gangbang? If i'm a high rank pilot it doesn't mean i can take down enemy fighters with a bomber, a bomber is a sitting duck ,it needs better escort or other bombers around , this type of missions should be changed, in my opinion .

Here's the track :

 

 

https://www.sendspace.com/file/0uhh8b

Edited August 16, 2016 by [DBS]Prody

[Yogiflight]

You get this kind of mission in BOS as well. One He111 attacking a bridge, escorted by one Bf109. AFAIK it is always the bridge attack missions.

[[DBS]Prody]

i know but the enemy fighters were harmless in BoS campaign, i don't remember being shot down by any of them ( maybe once or twice) and i did the entire campaign flying 111 .

 Now, i like being attacked by enemy fighters in campaign, i don't want the old type of enemies but this type of enemy attack in solo missions against a bomber is unplayable .

[Nocke]

My impression is it is just randomness. I seem to get impossible suicide missions, far too easy missions, and anything in between. Probably rather realistic. Those impossible missions make me think about those poor guys that DID have to face it in reality...

[SCG_Space_Ghost]

My impression is it is just randomness. I seem to get impossible suicide missions, far too easy missions, and anything in between. Probably rather realistic. Those impossible missions make me think about those poor guys that DID have to face it in reality...

 

An He-111 pilot wouldn't have flown a bombing sortie alone in reality.