Bombers.. are the way to break air dominace!

[Monostripezebra]

https://youtu.be/RnJ-1aj87iE

[Gump]

LOL.... vicious!

[F/JG300_Gruber]

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Jackpot. I'll have to try that in the 88. 

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

You probably couldn't believe your luck when that same squad of 5 re-spawned again. I presume it was the same airfield?

[Blakhart]

Chutekilling is not ok.

Killing people on the ground is ok.

 

[edited]

Edited August 8, 2016 by SYN_Haashashin

[VBF-12_Snake9]

That first bomb concussion was hilarious. I wish you could see it from their perspective. Must have been awesome.

[Monostripezebra]

You probably couldn't believe your luck when that same squad of 5 re-spawned again. I presume it was the same airfield?

yes, it was.

 

Chutekilling is not ok.

Killing people on the ground is ok.

 

[edited].

let me explain my reasons, then.

 

Geneva Article 42 – Occupants of aircraft

 

1. No person parachuting from an aircraft in distress shall be made the object of attack during his descent.

2. Upon reaching the ground in territory controlled by an adverse Party, a person who has parachuted from an aircraft in distress shall be given an opportunity to surrender before being made the object of attack, unless it is apparent that he is engaging in a hostile act.

3. Airborne troops are not protected by this Article

 

While in a real conflict and fight for ones life there may be a lot of different arguments and viewpoints and up to a million reasons to debate, why that famous article 42 of the Geneva convention is there and why it is comparativly ok to lets say shoot combatants unable of fighting back at you compared to parachuting aircrews or people in lifeboats, but that is an entirely different matter then in a game. However, it does include the idea of combatants and non combatants, something bloody serious and very unrelated to a game. Infact, that whole bloody thing has absolutely ZERO to do with what we do in a game.

 

A game is for fun, mutual fun and it involves a bit of sportive aspects in the sense that you can only play it if your opponent also voluntarily opts to play it and thus plays it with you. And your opponent can become your teammate at any time. So beeing basically a dick to your enemy is contraproductive, especially on games with a small playerbase.

 

Winning against an opponent is one thing, but going further down after the fight on someone who has lost to you, like T-bagging in shooters or chute killing is like sending a message of disrespect and can therefore be considered to be not very sportive. But it can also be viewed as a valid strategy to anger the oppent to make emotions impair his/her judgement. personally, I feel like I don´t need that and sim players should be, in their own interest, nicer to each other then derpshooter players, because there are simply not so many. And we´re all just the same enthusiasts who simply make things fun by cooperating.

 

Bombing a player representation that has spawned into a fight is fair game however. The moment you spawn in to a flightsim fight, especially with the spawn protection mechanisms aimed at a "realistic" gameplay, like air raid warnings (you don´t need to spawn on airfield marked as attacked), AAA and friendly fighter cover (which you can see there in my footage) I think you are fair game to any attack. If I bomb someone, I don´t send an "after attack" message nor do I specifically aim to kill the pilot or attack a players stats... if it happens that the aircrew is killed, it is just a consequence of a game mechanic, just like when you shoot at a plane you will occasionally kill the crew.

 

So, that is my oppinon on that.. I know that you think otherwise and you can try and call those reasons "pathetic" as much as like, you are entitled to your own judgement............ but be aware that your way of judging things shines a light on YOU, not a light on the one you judge and who not necessarily cares for your judgement.

Edited August 8, 2016 by SYN_Haashashin

[Blakhart]

This is a game right?

Why you even mix reality with a game? Geneva article...[edited]

You kill someone hanging on a para, so you destroy his pleasure from the game ine the same like you kill someone on the runway.

 

No difference.

Edited August 8, 2016 by SYN_Haashashin
Poor taste

[216th_Jordan]

Vulching (if you want to call it that) is something different than chutekilling, no debate about that.

 

Btw: Angle of Attack of that russian bomb was way too high, it was almost pulling 90 degrees!

A joy to see anyway.

Edited August 7, 2016 by 216th_Jordan

[El_Babuino]

This is a game right?

Why you even mix reality with a game? Geneva article...[edited]

You kill someone hanging on a para, so you destroy his pleasure from the game ine the same like you kill someone on the runway.

No difference.

People destroy my pleasure from the game, then flying OP 109s, and 2 or 3 vs one red. And they dont mind about what. They are destoy my pleasure...my pleasure...my pleasure...

[NN_RugbyGoth]

Zebra, Blackhart, if I'm right you are both watched by moderation, you should both keep low profile...

About this attack, Zebra brings his Pe2 to 4000m or more at least before traveling to ennemy airfield. It's a lucky shot, or he was waiting there for a long time. If he was waiting, those 109s should have known (on the map you know when an airfield is under attack). So either they decided to take off from an airfield under air attack, they took a risk and lost, either it's a lucky shot and it doesn't happen that much!

 

Even if bringing geneva here is kind of a Goldwin point, I would say that bombing an airfield from altitude has nothing to do with chute killing and will agree with zebra that it's like teabagging in a FPS.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Funny. When people like me complained about fighters and attackers camping around enemy bases to kill spawning players on the ground we were told "This is war" and "Everything is allowed in war and love".

 

In my opinion both, chute shooting and delibrately killing enemies on spawn point is dirty behaviour. Runway attacks though are fine in my opinion as long as they are not continously disabeling the airfield.

 

This is a game which is about mutual fun (many seem to forget about that). Yea, dropping a bomb on sby's head isn't fun for him but when he gets the chane to take revenge it won't be fun for the bomber guy either.

[Monostripezebra]

You kill someone hanging on a para, so you destroy his pleasure from the game ine the same like you kill someone on the runway.

No difference.

 

that´s like your oppinon, man!

 

Well, to a degree the sense of what is "minus fun" can be subjective.. and can range from guys talking shit on forums to constantly camping around airfields at alt or joining 5:1 numbers "because 109!11!" or going gangbang on someone with all continueing shooting after the kill has been awarded because "he´s mine!11!" or the deliberate ramming of a limited numbers bomber that took a long time to climb with a fast climbing unlimited numbers fighter...

 

If a guy flying 30mins though enemy territory and superior numbers to be around 1 min over an airfield with fighter cover... and you personally know you can even despawn easy in the time between bomb release and impact, too... is your problem, chances are you maybe a bit sensitive, but that maybe all personal taste. I mean even took the time to fly back and land at an airfield under the usual fire by suicide strafing 109s ;=)

Edited August 8, 2016 by Dr_Zeebra

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

In the End it'S only Wings of Liberty. You are far more likely to have yourself killed by some Newbie spinning out of control on the Apron trying to taxi, unaware of things like the P-Factor etc., than by some excellent Marksman at 4-5k. 

On a Server where Planes are worth Nothing, Missions are worth Nothing, Navigation (and thus Concentration) is not Necessary and Ground Discipline is Legendarily Bad, why would you even complain? 

Wings of Liberty is complete Anarchy, everything goes. I got killed by Zeebra the other night, while getting my engines started and I was absolutely fine with that, because I know how risky it is for him, how many times he fails for one big Mulitkill. I do the same in the 88, however less successfully. 

 

Stop complaining!

[SYN_Mugue]

That's one beautifully executed attack, Dr.Z. S! My hat is off, for a true master. Well done!

 

To the poor victims, What on earth were you thinking? When your base is being capped, that is NOT the time for an airshow quality squadron takeoff! If they had just scrambled as soon as each was ready, they would have lost at best one or two planes, not eleven!

 

Way to make the most tempting target ever. That was a bomber pilots wet dream! lol Classic!!

[Monostripezebra]

Anyway, I´m having fun playing that way.. here is another go, this time as team:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx9zNLTIBOs

[SYN_Haashashin]

To all:

Keep it civil, and again,it's all about respect other members. Also note that posting totally offtopic posts is against the rules. One thing is the conversation develop with time but in the first page??. Keep it on topic.

P.S. And this is the video subforum, discuss the video but for other discussions there are better places, also PMs if needed.

[ACG_daffy_]

Has anyone been reminded lately that this is a VIDEO GAME!!!  It's NOT REAL!!!  It's PRETEND!!!

 

I love the bombing runs....Total domination.