Zooming the view in and out

[JG13_opcode]

2 quick questions:

 

- Is it better to use "pilot head zoom" or "camera zoom"?

 

- I feel like I'm going to wear out the slider on my X-52 from zooming so much.  Back in 1946 I used to just set a hotkey for max zoom and min zoom.  Can you not do this in BOS?  What does everyone use to zoom in and out?

[VBF-12_Snake9]

Owwww x52 thumb slider. You got the right idea.

 

That and the thumb wheel I miss the most from that throttle.

 

Zoom fits perfectly on that slider. Wouldn't change a bleeping thing.

[SharpeXB]

I put the zoom axis on my right toe brake axis. It works great and keeps my hands free. I just use HOTAS buttons for brakes since those aren't as useful as the zoom. Having the zoom on a variable axis is better than snapping from min to max because you can lose track of stuff when the view snaps. That was a big dislike for me with CoD. It only had those three preset FOVs

[JG13_opcode]

I put the zoom axis on my right toe brake axis. It works great and keeps my hands free. I just use HOTAS buttons for brakes since those aren't as useful as the zoom. Having the zoom on a variable axis is better than snapping from min to max because you can lose track of stuff when the view snaps. That was a big dislike for me with CoD. It only had those three preset FOVs

oooh, clever. I'll have to try that.

[Sokol1]

- Is it better to use "pilot head zoom" or "camera zoom"?

 

- I feel like I'm going to wear out the slider on my X-52 from zooming so much.  Back in 1946 I used to just set a hotkey for max zoom and min zoom.  Can you not do this in BOS?  What does everyone use to zoom in and out?

 

Not sure, but think that one zoom inside cockpit and other the "world".

 

You can set a min and max FOV in two keys like IL-2:46 by adjusting the ZOOM speed for one of the above settings. Is what see in Mk.Mr.X videos.

[[TWB]Pand]

If you have a warthog and use the script editor you can do both!

 

You assign/configure a virtual axis (in this case DX_YROT_AXIS) to be manipulated by buttons... on my warthog I selected the CMS hat (the H) which is easily accessible via my thumb on the stick.

 

Pressing forward/back performs relative zoom (the -100/+100 is how you would manipulate the rate).

Holding my shift button (NWS or pinky on the stick) and pressing forard on the hat zooms exactly halfway, when pressed again zooms full.  

At any point if I hold the shift button and press back it zooms out full.

 

Here's the code for anyone interested.

 

// Hat 4 - CMS (H)

MapKeyIO(&Joystick, H4U, 

     CHAIN( AXIS(DX_YROT_AXIS, 65536, 0), AXIS(DX_YROT_AXIS, -32768, 0)), //View Zoom 

     AXIS(DX_YROT_AXIS, -100, 1)); //View Zoom In Relative

 

MapKeyIO(&Joystick, H4D, 

     AXIS(DX_YROT_AXIS, 65536, 0), //View Zoom Out Full

     AXIS(DX_YROT_AXIS, 100, 1)); //View Zoom Out Relative

 

MapKey(&Joystick, H4R, 0); //unassigned

MapKey(&Joystick, H4L, 0); //unassigned

[JG13_opcode]

You can set a min and max FOV in two keys like IL-2:46 by adjusting the ZOOM speed for one of the above settings. Is what see in Mk.Mr.X videos.

Can you elaborate? Change the zoom speed?

[216th_Jordan]

Can you elaborate? Change the zoom speed?

 

Yes in the settings tab for camera. (it only works for me when I have no axis assigned to zoom though)

Edited August 5, 2016 by 216th_Jordan

[Sokol1]

See at 3:35 if is what you want:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoZ3KKE3U7g

 

He explain before, although all in Russian be see what he did in controls make easy set one key/button/HAT corner for view with maximum zoom and other for minimum, will be equivalent of Delete and PageDown in il-2:46.

 

If one set increase/decrease zoom in axis (slider, rotaries) no reason for set in keys.

Edited August 6, 2016 by Sokol1

[JG13_opcode]

Thanks.  The Russian version must be different or something, because I can't find any controls in the menu to set a key to zoom all the way in and out.

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

There is no key as such to zoom all the way in/out.

You use the key that zooms in, but change the rate in which the zoom occurs through the settings - in effect snap zooming if you set the rate fast enough.

 

I run mine with an increased zoom in rate that is much faster than normal, but still slow enough to not loose the target as it zooms in (in case I didn't have the target I wanted to zoom in right in the centre of my view), then use a second button to snap back to normal view.

[JG13_opcode]

There is no key as such to zoom all the way in/out.

You use the key that zooms in, but change the rate in which the zoom occurs through the settings - in effect snap zooming if you set the rate fast enough.

 

I run mine with an increased zoom in rate that is much faster than normal, but still slow enough to not loose the target as it zooms in (in case I didn't have the target I wanted to zoom in right in the centre of my view), then use a second button to snap back to normal view.

 

Ahhhhhhhhh, thank you.  That is awesome.

Yes in the settings tab for camera. (it only works for me when I have no axis assigned to zoom though)

 

Missed this post the first time around.  Thanks.

[F/JG300_Gruber]

Can't believe it took me so much time to come across that post.

That just changed my life !

 

Some things may have changed with the updates :

For increasing the zoom speed on my cockpit zoom buttons (pilot head : zoom in / out in the key mapping menu) I had to go in Setting > Camera > Pan camera mode > FOV change inertia.

Set to 50% instead of the default 100% and it's now waaay faster !!!

 

Thanks a lot guys !

[Kandiru]

On 8/3/2016 at 9:49 PM, SharpeXB said:

I put the zoom axis on my right toe brake axis. It works great and keeps my hands free. I just use HOTAS buttons for brakes since those aren't as useful as the zoom. Having the zoom on a variable axis is better than snapping from min to max because you can lose track of stuff when the view snaps. That was a big dislike for me with CoD. It only had those three preset FOVs

I am giving this a try on my MFG pedals. That is exactly what we need, a rapidly accessible axis without relinquishing HOTAS positions. On a side note I am putting mine on the left toe brake as slipstream takes care of its job anyway in my 109.

Edited September 1, 2018 by Kandiru

[SCG_Tzigy]

On 6/24/2017 at 10:16 AM, F/JG300_Gruber said:

Can't believe it took me so much time to come across that post.

That just changed my life !

 

Some things may have changed with the updates :

For increasing the zoom speed on my cockpit zoom buttons (pilot head : zoom in / out in the key mapping menu) I had to go in Setting > Camera > Pan camera mode > FOV change inertia.

Set to 50% instead of the default 100% and it's now waaay faster !!!

 

Thanks a lot guys !

 

I think 60-65% works great for me, top hat switch on TM Warthog stick, think most intuitive/that and a quick reset view one of the front buttons on TH Warthog throttle..

[CSW_Hot_Dog]

I use TrackIr/Opentrack z-axis for zooming. Moving pilot head along with z-axis isnt as important as zooming for me, but still sometimes needed, so i put pilot z-movement on free axis of the joystick while z-axis of opentrack is occupied by zoom. Simple and perfect for me...

Edited September 1, 2018 by Hot_Dog