Would you shoot at a Red Cross Ju-52?

[[CPT]milopugdog]

"The only good pixel man is a dead pixel man"

"So you'd shoot a pixel ambulance with your pixel bullets? Monster!"

"I'm a fanboy of total pixel warfare, I believe shooting pixels with other pixels"

 

Guys. This isn't real. People would use the red cross skin when they're doing other stuff because they're trash. People care about stats more than having morality for some nonexistent people. No need to start another thread about the "knights of the sky" or whatever. Been there, done that, it was a mess.

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

"The only good pixel man is a dead pixel man"

"So you'd shoot a pixel ambulance with your pixel bullets? Monster!"

"I'm a fanboy of total pixel warfare, I believe shooting pixels with other pixels"

 

Guys. This isn't real. People would use the red cross skin when they're doing other stuff because they're trash. People care about stats more than having morality for some nonexistent people. No need to start another thread about the "knights of the sky" or whatever. Been there, done that, it was a mess.

In the End I want to have somewhat of a chance of getting Places in my Pixel-52. It needs some extra Protection, especially when flying without on-board guns. 

Also, if you have that Skin, you should be locked to Ambulance tasks. 

[[CPT]milopugdog]

In the End I want to have somewhat of a chance of getting Places in my Pixel-52. It needs some extra Protection, especially when flying without on-board guns.

Also, if you have that Skin, you should be locked to Ambulance tasks.

Maybe in TAW you won't get shot. You get the "I'm shooting you even though I already got credit for destroying your engine" guys in WoL. xD

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Maybe in TAW you won't get shot. You get the "I'm shooting you even though I already got credit for destroying your engine" guys in WoL. xD

But I don't go on WoL with the intentions of flying seriously. WoL is a trolling Server through and through. On WoL you take enough fuel to take you to the most active enemy Airfield, not more. It's a One-Way Kamikaze Server for Bombing Enemy New-Spawns and doing anything but playing the Mission. I proudly partake in the constant German Defeats in my Bf110.

The Pilot Quality is so low that we actually get kills by taking Stukas in fighter configuration. WoL is a Shitshow, Fun, but not really anything more than a "Normal" Server without Markers. 

[NO_SQDeriku777]

An obvious skin set server-side should do the trick. The Devs just need to include a new Pink skin in the default skin collection.

 

If someone dishonours himself, it should be easier for the enemy to retaliate. Maybe a Marker on the Map, Square Announcements, Take-Off Notice and so on. 

Maybe it should even be legal to Teamkill him, as an apology to restore honorouble behaviour, otherwise Sabotage Operations could leave Airfields unprotected by AA, Enemy Ground Targets will be Deactivated and Attacks should be Concentrated on enemy Airfields, just to annoy the enemy.

 

[BlitzPig_EL]

The easy way out of all this nonsense is simply not to have an ambulance version of the Ju 52.

 

It's a game.

 

It's not real.

 

Get over yourselves.

[Habu]

The real question, would anyone fly a ju-52 without a gunner?

At least 2, a friend and me.

[Holtzauge]

"The only good pixel man is a dead pixel man"

"So you'd shoot a pixel ambulance with your pixel bullets? Monster!"

"I'm a fanboy of total pixel warfare, I believe shooting pixels with other pixels"

 

Guys. This isn't real. People would use the red cross skin when they're doing other stuff because they're trash. People care about stats more than having morality for some nonexistent people. No need to start another thread about the "knights of the sky" or whatever. Been there, done that, it was a mess.

 

Very good point. No this is not real but its been an eyeopener. I know this is a game but truly I'm surprised by some of reasoning in this thread. I mean this is 2016 and people still need to muse and contemplate on weather or not to shoot down an unarmed transport with red cross markings? WTF? What's the world coming to? Based on what has passed so far my vote is for no Ju-52 red cross skin so there will be no temptation for those with pixel sized empathy circuits.......

[Jade_Monkey]

I love how seriously everyone is taking this discussion. It's pretty obvious that there are at least two kinds of pilots here, the ones roleplaying and the ones who are in for a quick dogfight and shooting down planes. Nobody will be on the same page because everyone is here for a different reason.

[Mac_Messer]

The easy way out of all this nonsense is simply not to have an ambulance version of the Ju 52.

 

It's a game.

 

It's not real.

 

Get over yourselves.

Sure, it is a matter of attitude. If you want to be a virtual twat then nobody can stop you from wanting to be one. Bottom line, behave. You do not need to ruin other`s fun. This is not war, so play fair. If you get off on recreating shooting civilians and harmless defensless targets then do it offline or find a server with other twats.

[Johnny_Red]

Very good point. No this is not real but its been an eyeopener. I know this is a game but truly I'm surprised by some of reasoning in this thread. I mean this is 2016 and people still need to muse and contemplate on weather or not to shoot down an unarmed transport with red cross markings? WTF? What's the world coming to? Based on what has passed so far my vote is for no Ju-52 red cross skin so there will be no temptation for those with pixel sized empathy circuits.......

LOL you do think this is just a game? It sure doesn't sound like it.

 

Sure, it is a matter of attitude. If you want to be a virtual twat then nobody can stop you from wanting to be one. Bottom line, behave. You do not need to ruin other`s fun. This is not war, so play fair. If you get off on recreating shooting civilians and harmless defensless targets then do it offline or find a server with other twats.

Or you could find a civilian sim and fly from airport to airport with your virtual cargo without the fear of being shot at by those folk who play an air combat game for the combat. Armed or unarmed.

[Jade_Monkey]

LOL you do think this is just a game? It sure doesn't sound like it.

 

Or you could find a civilian sim and fly from airport to airport with your virtual cargo without the fear of being shot at by those folk who play an air combat game for the combat. Armed or unarmed.

+1

 

This is not Euro truck simulator. It's a combat flight sim. You can choose not to shoot a red cross plane but let others do whatever they want to do.

 

If its such a big deal, it's probably best to play with like minded people on a server with specific rules regarding red cross planes.

Edited August 7, 2016 by Jade_Monkey

[Feathered_IV]

The real question, would anyone fly a ju-52 without a gunner?

 

I certainly would.  Battling through with gun blazing was never the objective anyway.  Stealth, cunning and good airmanship will be what gets the job done, and doing this unarmed would just give an extra frission of tension and add to the satisfaction of another successful mission carefully won.

[Scarecrow]

Classic Top Gun, go inverted and flip him the bird USSR USSR.

[Davinsky]

I didn't sign the virtual Geneva Convention, so red cross not, that Ju-52 is going down! That is, after I figure out how to stop spinning around while taxiing.

[216th_Jordan]

Russia actually made a proposal to germany to keep the geneva wounded convention and the geneva prisoners of war convention. It was germany that said it was not to follow those conventions.

 

Its still a game though. So that depends on the situation.

[uumepunda]

As ambulance driver would be nice to see official skin with red cross in game, i'll use it

[seafireliv]

The easy way out of all this nonsense is simply not to have an ambulance version of the Ju 52.

 

It's a game.

 

It's not real.

 

Get over yourselves.

 

Oooh. Big words. Might fine tough words.

 

I like to play \games like GTA V sometimes. I will shoot other criminals, even shoot cops that try to kill me, but I will always, always try to avoid killing civilians.

 

Guess I need to get over myself for having abit of a moral compass that even spills over into games that don`t care if I kill innocent people or not.

Edited September 7, 2016 by seafireliv

[BlitzPig_EL]

This isn't about morality, that is your confusion, it's about being adult enough to be able separate a game from reality.

 

Something that some of you have a lot of trouble with it seems.

[Danziger]

The whole point of those GTA type games is to be able vent out frustration in a safe way. Instead of beating to death a real hooker and going to prison, you beat to death a virtual hooker have a good laugh and go on with life.

 

Yes I would probably shoot at the red cross plane eventually. It's just a game and way too tempting to do something naughty.

[Trooper117]

Real life, I wouldn't shoot it down, simple answer.

 

In game, probably... if the other side are close to completing their mission goal of achieving a certain amount of cargo delivered... (plus, there will be those gamer's who will abuse the use of red cross skins to achieve their aims)...

[kendo]

LoL. So you are saying that people who kill civilians in gta or any other game aren't moral people irl? What the....That's a pretty immoral accusation if you ask me.

Speaking of civilians, I hope devs would add some civilian farmers in the game. Preferrably some elder people, maybe a grandma in a wheelchair out in a cornfield, cause I need some more targets to strafe. 

 

If it's a German wheelchair people would probably complain about the damage modelling.

 

and incidentally...what in hell's name would a grandma in a wheelchair be doing out in a cornfield...?

 

edit: Borys, i know, being sarcastic and humorous here too   

Edited September 7, 2016 by kendo

[Danziger]

I think he is being sarcastic and humorous.

[uumepunda]

My friend paint for me skins for several planes alike my working car

For example my medical Ju88 drop healing bombs to mass healing for all diseases

 

 

[Danziger]

Lol that would be awesome if you could skin the bombs too

[Cybermat47]

Speaking of civilians, I hope devs would add some civilian farmers in the game. Preferrably some elder people, maybe a grandma in a wheelchair out in a cornfield, cause I need some more targets to strafe.

 

Dude, that's insane... this game is about realism, and people in wheelchairs were explicitly banned from being in corn fields by both Hitler and Stalin. They viewed it as defeatist, and once they banned it, it stopped at once (now, of course, being in a wheelchair in a cornfield is an Olympic event).

 

As for elderly people in general, they too were banned by Stalin and Hitler, who, as we both know, were obsessed with looking young so that they could impress Patrick Troughton, who they'd had a crush on ever since going to school with him. They believed that old people could drain the life out of them, just like Jean-Luc Picard did in that one Star Trek episode.

 

Get your facts right, geez.

[FTC_Etherlight]

Heh, I talked with a friend about this thread an hour ago and he thought one should propose to add Junkers that transport out orphans out of the war zone. Because this discussion about a hypothetical skin with a hypothetical background in a video game has not been heated and completely useless enough, yet. :D And lo and behold, here we are: Grannys in wheelchairs. Excellent.

[Feathered_IV]

The German grannies would take their wheelchairs out into the cornfields, so that P-51's couldn't bounce their .50 cals off the roads and flip them over.

[kendo]

They REALLY need to make the announcement soon.

 

People are going stir crazy here....!

 

By the way, wasn't it conclusively proved on the old il-2 46 forum, after much heated debate, that there was no way that ricocheting  .50 cal rounds could tip over a granny in a wheelchair.

Edited September 7, 2016 by kendo

[Trooper117]

You is right... be sure!

[Ace_Pilto]

Of course I would. 

 

If I come into your house, drink all your beer and sleep with your wife, is it ok for me to do this if I'm wearing a red cross armband while I do it?

 

The only time I wouldn't engage an enemy plane is if I was ordered not to.

[DD_Arthur]

 

By the way, wasn't it conclusively proved on the old il-2 46 forum, after much heated debate, that there was no way that ricocheting  .50 cal rounds could tip over a granny in a wheelchair.

 

Wasn't that Kurfy - after the usual heated debate - conclusively proving Willy Messerschmit's granny invented swept back wings? 

[[CPT]milopugdog]

Okay. Who brought this damned thread back?

This literally goes nowhere. It's just like that stupid "knights of the sky thread" thread that was a constant flame war.

Nobody will change your opinion, and you won't change anyone else's. It's about as pointless as a circle.

[Sokol1]

A compromise: Just damage that Ju-52, don't blown then out of skies, and when the pilot jump, shoot at their parachute - in the parachute, not in the guy. 

Edited September 7, 2016 by Sokol1

[Rolling_Thunder]

Of course I would shoot it down.

 

 

That's the spirit! Shoot it up bro! I'd also carefully aim for the engines so that all the passengers can bail out safely so I can shoot all of them in their chutes one by one. That'll teach em

Lol that made me laugh

LoL. So you are saying that people who kill civilians in gta or any other game aren't moral people irl? What the....That's a pretty immoral accusation if you ask me.

Speaking of civilians, I hope devs would add some civilian farmers in the game. Preferrably some elder people, maybe a grandma in a wheelchair out in a cornfield, cause I need some more targets to strafe.

 

Ha

So because of the symbol on the tail, you shoot down an unarmed plane that in addition to the percentage of dedicated Nazis on board also contains non-combatants like nurses, doctors and a good dose of young German men who were simply drafted into the Wehrmacht?

 

Nice…….

Dude you really need to lighten up. There's nobody on board it's not real.

And Non combatants are killed all the time in war. The Nazis V1 and V2 rockets were fired blindly at london. When you drop your virtual bombs on virtual Stalingrad do you consider the virtual civilians you're probably killing? The horror! Get over it.

Edited September 8, 2016 by Rolling_Blunder

[Cybermat47]

[Edited]

Fixed that for you

 

If you are going to quote someone you better do it correctly. 

Edited September 11, 2016 by Bearcat

[LLv24_SukkaVR]

No i wouldnt. I couldnt shoot down a defenseless plane filled with wounded men.

[Snoopy_BE20]

I can understand its a game and that people want to shoot down a red cross plane sure its your game experience it how you like, but bringing up stuff such as: bring in people, elderly etc so I can strafe them.... Its not something I think is OK regardless if its a joke or not. I'm pretty sure if someone said "lets bring in concentration camps to bomb/strafe11!!!" People would also be upset.

[Rolling_Thunder]

Are we supposed to leave our sense of humour at the sign on screen? I missed that announcement

[BlitzPig_EL]

Are we supposed to leave our sense of humour at the sign on screen? I missed that announcement

 

I guess I didn't see it either.

 

Can you imagine if Monty Python, or Mel Brooks were starting out today?   They wouldn't have a chance in these humorless times.