FW190 on WoL Analysis

[Sketch]

 

In this video, I fly a FW190 and score some easy kills on WoL. I believe I had a five or six kill streak within two or three hours of flying. Here's my analysis.

[Lusekofte]

Exactly, flown right you will survive in a 190. Great flying

[Dr_Molem]

Exactly, flown right you will survive in a 190. Great flying

 

What's a "rightly flown" 190 ? A plane that has to limit itself to some surprise slash attacks made from above only and that must inevitably avoids close dogfighting ? Wow, this fighter was probably really feared during WW2...

 

I suppose...

[Gump]

 

What's a "rightly flown" 190 ? A plane that has to limit itself to some surprise slash attacks made from above only and that must inevitably avoids close dogfighting ? Wow, this fighter was probably really feared during WW2...

 

I suppose...

 

the irony in that statement is that the 190 was not a high alt fighter in WW2, implying that it would not catch many planes lower than it to employ "slash attacks" on. sounds like a sitting duck.

[E69_geramos109]

I have some experience flying the 190 on wings of liberty.

You can think is powerfull and asy to kill someone in a surprise run but is limited only for that. At the time you find an enemy at the same altitude you have to run. Yo fail your pass and you hace to run. You can oy make an attack and you have to run because it has any zoom. 109 has more zoom after a dive and with the foke you have to turn in to your zone, climb during 10 mins and come back to prepare a single attack.

 

I have some good streack with 190 but all with surprise attacks. With the 109 i can make good streacks in one hour flying safe.

 

Is my point of view and i preffer much more G2 but allways I try to fly both to learn something. I cant find the true potencial with foke and i can only wait to see some plane flying in straight line.

 

I hope devs change actual fm on 190. With correct fm is still a difficult plane but with much more potential and a good plane to dogfight in highspeed manoubers like in jagerkampf videos.

Edited August 2, 2016 by E69_geramos109

[C6_iceheart]

I have some experience flying the 190 on wings of liberty.

You can think is powerfull and asy to kill someone in a surprise run but is limited only for that. At the time you find an enemy at the same altitude you have to run. Yo fail your pass and you hace to run. You can oy make an attack and you have to run because it has any zoom. 109 has more zoom after a dive and with the foke you have to turn in to your zone, climb during 10 mins and come back to prepare a single attack.

 

I have some good streack with 190 but all with surprise attacks. With the 109 i can make good streacks in one hour flying safe.

 

Is my point of view and i preffer much more G2 but allways I try to fly both to learn something. I cant find the true potencial with foke and i can only wait to see some plane flying in straight line.

 

I hope devs change actual fm on 190. With correct fm is still a difficult plane but with much more potential and a good plane to dogfight in highspeed manoubers like in jagerkampf videos.

+1

[YSoMadTovarisch]

Exactly, flown right you will survive in a 190. Great flying

Does that excuse the butchered flight model?

[Sketch]

Flight model discussions are that way... *points to FM thread*  Also, I'm allergic to sodium chloride, so why bring it to this thread?

Edited August 2, 2016 by Sketch

[Gump]

point taken, sketch. folks familiar with your video style can recognize the misfit with fm discussion here. but it's a little tricky, since you kind of subliminaly trigger that kind of thought with the "analysis" idea. and FW "analysis" discussion is like pricking a festering wound .

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back to the regularly scheduled program ...always fun to watch your videos.

[Lusekofte]

Does that excuse the butchered flight model?

 

Did I say that?

To me this is beaten to death and a whining not seen since the days of COD release.

I have survived on every flight I ever done in a FW 190, been engaged on all. I have absolutely no interest in fighters , so it is not my skills.

So the ability to accept what is and not being able to use this bird by some , is crying out loud things I will not mention here, mainly because I do not care if people fly it or not. 

To me it would have been better that the FW 190 was binned by its developers, since the user do not want it. If I cared for Luftwaffe planes in this game, I personally would have flown this in ground pounding, because you can do that without being a target practice for fighters

Edited August 2, 2016 by 216th_LuseKofte

[JG13_opcode]

 

 

In this video, I fly a FW190 and score some easy kills on WoL. I believe I had a five or six kill streak within two or three hours of flying. Here's my analysis.

 

What's your convergence set at?

[LLv24_Zami]

Nice flying and shooting Sketch!

 

I`ve enjoyed watching your videos 

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

Here is why the Fw fared better on the Western Front. 

 

Fw190: 3.8+ tons @ ca.1700hp

(109: 3.0 tons @ 1300-1500hp)

 

Eastern Front (main types around 1942): 

Yakovlev Fiighters: around 3.0 tons @ 1250hp

La-5s: 3.2-3.3 tons @ 1700-1850 hp

LaGG-3: 3.0 tons @ 1250hp

 

 

Westerm Front (around mid '42)

*Spitfire: Mk.V: 3.0 tons @ 1475 hp;;; F Mk.IX: 3.3 tons @ 1565hp

P-40E: 3.8+ tons @ 1100-1500 hp 

Typhoon: 5 tons @ 2200hp

P-38: 8 tons @ 2x1400hp

(P-47: 5.8 tons @ 2000+hp)

 

*The Spitfire was let down by it's oversized wings which ruined it's rate of roll and energy retention, especially zoom climb.

 

Overall the Fw190 just by these numbers fit the Western Front much better, in which P/W ratios were generally lower, Aircraft were heavier and so was Armament. 

The Fw wasn't worse, but in a Situation in which Combat is lower and more Local, the lighter, more manouverable fighter will more often get the upper hand. 

Also: The Western Front was dominated by .30 and .50 cals which the 190 was protected against, while in the east 20mms and heavier where much more common. 

Edited August 6, 2016 by 6./ZG26_Klaus-Mann

[E69_geramos109]

fw190 was only a good fighter from 1941 to mid 1943 where he was so fast. But from there in europe with hight altitude combats and faster planes in the east and no develop posibilities as lineal engines like 109 has. So from this year 190 was used as Jabo in the east and to attack B17 while bf109 fight against all enemy planes.

Dora performance was not enought too at hight altitudes. Only D11,12 13 and Tas with minimus numbers built

[6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann]

fw190 was only a good fighter from 1941 to mid 1943 where he was so fast. But from there in europe with hight altitude combats and faster planes in the east and no develop posibilities as lineal engines like 109 has. So from this year 190 was used as Jabo in the east and to attack B17 while bf109 fight against all enemy planes.

Dora performance was not enought too at hight altitudes. Only D11,12 13 and Tas with minimus numbers built

Well, it was also heavily armed, overkill for the East, but Perfect against heavy bombers and the allied fighters. And the Fully automated Cockpit and Controls are great. 

[MadisonV44]

Thanks for the vid Scketch

 

Geramos, you summarized perfectly our thoughts !