Allow premium aircraft to be flown in quick missions

[MAGNUM_PT]

Hello everyone!

 

With the Steam Summer Sale going on, I am seriously thinking in acquiring one of the premium aircraft for BoS. However, I have no idea of which one to choose as I simply love both the La-5 and the Fw-190. To help people who have this difficulty, why don't developers allow all premium aircraft to be flown in quick missions? Even if it was just in the missions where you fly without opponents. This way we could see if the aircraft is indeed what we are expecting and if it's worth our money.

[Brano]

It's like asking cashier at cinema to let you in for free and depending on whether you like or not the movie,you will pay or not. It doesn't work like that. Are you in WW2 CFS? Are you interested in those planes? Then buy them. If you are not,then don't.

[TP_Jacko]

I doubt it would ever work that way but maybe they could have  a taster weekend to let it be tried to encourage people to purchase

[ShamrockOneFive]

Interesting idea. I can't see them doing it and I'm not sure if they should but its still interesting to think about.

 

As to answer your question... Why not both? If not and you're choosing one, I guess the thing to do is pick the one you want the most right now and then buy the other one later. I bought BoS Regular and then I bought the La-5 first followed by the FW190 second. Both were worthwhile purchases and I've spent tons of time flying them both.

[MAGNUM_PT]

It's like asking cashier at cinema to let you in for free and depending on whether you like or not the movie,you will pay or not. It doesn't work like that. Are you in WW2 CFS? Are you interested in those planes? Then buy them. If you are not,then don't.

The point is more like have a preview or trailer because I'm not suggestion to try it everywhere. Not even in the campaign. Just to be available in quick missions. And yes, I am into WW2 CFS but the money is limited.

[MadisonV44]

Some time ago I would have recommended the FW, but since a few patches from now (late 2015) it became an energy colander.

Take the LA-5      

[Brano]

There are plenty of Utube videos where you can see both planes flying and fighting.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Too bad Sakemonogatari doesn't do videos anymore....

 

[Livai]

Who bought the Standard Version before and is now thinking to buy the two Premium Planes pay twice! $24,99 Standard vs $39,99 Premium....$10 difference. And how much cost it to upgrade from Standard to Premium well $20 if the $10 more is not overpriced for my taste. 

[ShamrockOneFive]

Who bought the Standard Version before and is now thinking to buy the two Premium Planes pay twice! $24,99 Standard vs $39,99 Premium....$10 difference. And how much cost it to upgrade from Standard to Premium well $20 if the $10 more is not overpriced for my taste. 

 

If you're starting out fresh without anything else... yeah the IL-2: BoS Premium package right now is a great deal. If you have Regular then the best price right now is $9.99 a plane (vs non sale of $19.99).

[TG-55Panthercules]

Who bought the Standard Version before and is now thinking to buy the two Premium Planes pay twice! $24,99 Standard vs $39,99 Premium....$10 difference. And how much cost it to upgrade from Standard to Premium well $20 if the $10 more is not overpriced for my taste. 

 

That's really a $15 difference (39.99 - 24.99), so at the sale price of ($9.99 per premium plane, it's only a $5 "penalty" for having guessed wrong and bought the standard pack to begin with - pretty minimal, IMHO.

 

But if you're like me, you can't really fly both planes at the same time, so if I didn't already have them I'd probably pick whichever one appealed to me more first, and spend the time until the next sale learning how to fly it, then pick up the other one in the next sale (if the extra $10 was significant at the moment, anyway).

Edited June 26, 2016 by TG-55Panthercules

[Rjel]

Sometimes I just have to laugh. Why should there be a opportunity to "just fly" the premium planes to see if one likes them? If their price points were two or three times the price being charged for them in reality, then maybe there would be an argument for a free flight. Sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith and buy. Some might be disappointed sometimes.That's just how life works. 

 

As a side note, a lot of guys have given away free copies of this sim. Some have given away premium planes. Some have done it multiple times. I have too. But I'm done doing it. At least as far as giving them away online. I see far too many ingrates getting something for nothing and acting like it. It was especially bad on the RoF forum. One guy gave away a ton of freebies. I hope he was thanked, publicly and privately. But it irked me to see the same names pop up as those who'd gotten a hold of another free key, generously given away. I often would shake my head at those who would complain in one sentence about missing out, but the same guy would crow that he got another key last time in the next sentence. How about just buying one? Better yet, try to buy one to give back? There's a thought. Returning the favor. In the future, any gifts of BoS/BoM that I might consider giving away will be to someone I know or maybe a mutual acquaintance of someone who is interested in aviation. Not just some lurker looking to get something for nothing.

[ShamrockOneFive]

Sometimes I just have to laugh. Why should there be a opportunity to "just fly" the premium planes to see if one likes them? If their price points were two or three times the price being charged for them in reality, then maybe there would be an argument for a free flight. Sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith and buy. Some might be disappointed sometimes.That's just how life works. 

 

As a side note, a lot of guys have given away free copies of this sim. Some have given away premium planes. Some have done it multiple times. I have too. But I'm done doing it. At least as far as giving them away online. I see far too many ingrates getting something for nothing and acting like it. It was especially bad on the RoF forum. One guy gave away a ton of freebies. I hope he was thanked, publicly and privately. But it irked me to see the same names pop up as those who'd gotten a hold of another free key, generously given away. I often would shake my head at those who would complain in one sentence about missing out, but the same guy would crow that he got another key last time in the next sentence. How about just buying one? Better yet, try to buy one to give back? There's a thought. Returning the favor. In the future, any gifts of BoS/BoM that I might consider giving away will be to someone I know or maybe a mutual acquaintance of someone who is interested in aviation. Not just some lurker looking to get something for nothing.

 

It's too bad that some folks behaved poorly with that kind of generosity. I jumped on the RoF forums about a month ago and before long someone PM'ed me offering access to the Channel Map and the S-16 and I am forever grateful for those gifts. I thanked him. It's an incredible introduction to that part of the flight sim community and it reminds me that there are great folks out there.

[Guest deleted@30725]

It's because war thunder does this so he's probably seen it there. You can test fly an aircraft even a premium one before you buy it on your own without enemies to see how it flies.

 

I kind of understand the logic for wanting it but really your buying the model and you either like what a 190 looks like or la 5 and you want it on looks or want to be seen flying it. Do you want to be german or russian it doesn't really matter either way. Neither plane is insta win.

 

One doesn't loose out for not having them, unless your virtual ego says you have to have them all to pretend your better than people that don't.

 

Having seen the current content the value of the extra is based on your evaluation of the current set of aircraft since it is presumed that the team making those will have created the la5 and 190 in a similar level. Worth is for your mind only and each person will say yes or no based on their financial situation and item worth. You already have half an idea what the content will be like and pray you read the countless forum arguments here too so the decision is easy. However, the contents of your bank account and where you choose to spend it will be what causes you to hesitate. Would money not be an issue could the decision be much easier. Such is your predicament. 

Edited June 26, 2016 by deleted@30725

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

*The La-5 flew on the battle of Stalingrad from the end of Autumn on

[Guest deleted@30725]

*The La-5 flew on the battle of Stalingrad from the end of Autumn on

 

Thanks, edited. 

 

Found this on the forum too:

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/7422-la5-enters-fray/

[Jade_Monkey]

I doubt it would ever work that way but maybe they could have  a taster weekend to let it be tried to encourage people to purchase

 

This was my exact thought. A free weekend could be really good, to create an itch for those who are on the edge.

 

I dont think having permanent acces even for just the QMB is good. There are enough videos and threads to cover the "trailer/preview" aspect of the OP's idea.

[=LG=Wicher]

It's like asking cashier at cinema to let you in for free and depending on whether you like or not the movie,you will pay or not. It doesn't work like that. Are you in WW2 CFS? Are you interested in those planes? Then buy them. If you are not,then don't.

 

Wow man, that's the most stupid answer that I ever heard. How about when you buy a new car from car showroom then you are able to have test drives before you decide to buy it. And the comment that you have youtube videos to check how the plane works is even worse ... You can't feel the plane by watching video on yt ... srsly wtf

[Rjel]

Wow man, that's the most stupid answer that I ever heard. How about when you buy a new car from car showroom then you are able to have test drives before you decide to buy it. And the comment that you have youtube videos to check how the plane works is even worse ... You can't feel the plane by watching video on yt ... srsly wtf

I'd say yours might be the new front runner. If these premium planes cost as much as a new car then your analogy might work. But they don't. And it doesn't.

Edited June 27, 2016 by Rjel

[Dakpilot]

Wow man, that's the most stupid answer that I ever heard. How about when you buy a new car from car showroom then you are able to have test drives before you decide to buy it. And the comment that you have youtube videos to check how the plane works is even worse ... You can't feel the plane by watching video on yt ... srsly wtf

 

Very true but a new car is a seriously pricier proposition with many more potential choices/competition than a $10  sim aircraft   (sale price)

 

How many $10-$20 products are you able to test/sample before buying? these days you don't even get to test out an expensive new cellphone before purchase.. 

 

Cheers Dakpilot

[216th_Lucas_From_Hell]

Is there any particular reason why you must be able to test-drive the premium planes but are 100% cool with buying the other 8 at face value?

 

To the OP, I would say get the La-5 for starters. It has a ton of quirks and needs lots of trim to fly straight, stalls are common if you don't know its limits. At the same time, it has great speed, roll and turns nicely once you learn to handle it, and the firepower is divine. The Fw-190 is the same thing but with extra across the board - quirkier and harder to fly, faster, and with more guns. If you enjoy what you get from the La-5 after a few months, then once the opportunity allows go for the Fw-190.

[MAGNUM_PT]

So, a lot of people seem to disagree with the idea. However, as Jacko said, even a free weekend once in a while would just put water in the mouths of those who are interested in buying the aircraft. I know that my suggestion is not something like "we need this" but would nice since nothing beats a hands-on experience.

Anyway, I decided to go on and acquired the La-5! Lets see what I can achieve with this.

[seafireliv]

On a slightly different tangent, I`m not a fan of Steam (never have been), but some of those Steam sales are so cheap, I bought a couple of games. PayDay 2 GOTY  was one I`d wanted to get for a long time and now it`s finally worth it (especially since they got rid of the awful micro-transactions).

 

If the Focke Wolf is part of the Steam sale (and is cheap enough) I might even get that too just to complete the plane list.

Edited June 28, 2016 by seafireliv