Frequent_Flyer Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Hello All, I do not have rudder peddles and am having a difficult time, even after mapping, keeping the Lagg straight on take off . I have an old extreme 3D Pro. I was considering rudder peddles and/ or a new joy stick. I was wonder what your experience was regarding your joy stick ? If you use peddles and what your experience with either one or both has been so far? Thanks in advance
Trident_109 Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 I remember my old X - 45 quite fondly. Currently I'm using CH Products rudder pedals, throttle, and fighter-stick. I highly recommend them, but understand cost is a concern for many. They work just as well today as 8 years ago when I bought them. My X-45 lasted about two and a half years. We won't even go into how quickly my Logitek Extreme force feedback went. It was cheap and it's reliability demonstrated that quite clearly.
Speckfire Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 TM Warthog with Saitek pedals. No complaints here.
Panzerlang Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Saitek Cyborg Evo Force with Saitek pedals.
Matt Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 The twist axis feature of the Microsoft FFB2 works alright, even though you can just fly more precise with rudders, due to the larger throw. I used Simpeds and am now using MFG Crosswind. I would recommend both. But the Simpeds are out of production now and the MFG Crosswind is not really cheap (both in price and quality though). The Saitek pedals seem to be the most popular pedals out there and unlike most other Saitek products, the pedals seem to be quite reliable, so i would suggest to start with those.
71st_AH_Shamrock Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) CH combat stick with CH pro pedals all good ! Edited November 20, 2013 by 71st_AH_Shamrock
andyw248 Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 CH Products Flightstick Pro, rudder pedals, and throttle quadrant. Bought them about 6 years ago, no issues, they are all very sturdy. What I like about the CH Flightstick pro is that it has a very low springload. This makes it easy to fly even planes that don't have trim. Oh, and it is very important to mount that joystick to a chair. Aircraft don't have desks, so the stick should be between your legs, not on a desk. Find an old wooden kitchen chair in your garage or attic, get some wood and screws, and build a joystick mount for that chair.
smink1701 Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Thrustmaster - T.Flight Stick X. Well made, twist for rudder control. Does the trick.
Sim Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Thrustmaster T.16000M. Surprisingly, I have all the more expensive CH product set, yet prefer the relatively cheap T.16000M stick. The minute you try that HALL sensor in T.16000M (same as Warthog?) is the minute you can't go back to anything less precision-wise.
Fifi Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 TM Warthog with Saitek pedals. No complaints here. Same here. Since i bought this TM Warthog, simulations reached a new dimension!
Joker_23 Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Saitek X52 Pro. Everythig is pretty good,i have trouble sometimes assigning buttons tho,sometimes it doesn't detect them on the first try.
LordNeuro*Srb* Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 I m using logitech attack 3 joystick. It does the job and I use racing wheel pedals for ruder, also does the job. Not the best job but i cann take laag in the air. Landing is dfrent story. So Frequent_Flyer if u have same wheel and pedals u cann use them for ruder, and is beter i think then twist joystick, at list a more imersive. Wurth the tray.
Frequent_Flyer Posted November 20, 2013 Author Posted November 20, 2013 Hello All, Thank you for your input, some great information.
DD_Arthur Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Hello All, I do not have rudder peddles and am having a difficult time, even after mapping, keeping the Lagg straight on take off . I have an old extreme 3D Pro. I was considering rudder peddles and/ or a new joy stick. I was wonder what your experience was regarding your joy stick ? If you use peddles and what your experience with either one or both has been so far? Thanks in advance Frequent_Flyer I use a MSFFB2 and I can't recommend it highly enough. Worth a look on evilbay. Yes, it will be an 'old' stick but they're tough and precise and easily the best FFB implementation out there. I know what you mean about pedals. I've managed to get along without them quite well but I think BoS is going to take us to a new level of fidelity so I'm seriously considering my options. I won't be doing anything this side of Christmas though! Lots of my squadmates use them but I've heard several times that it took them a couple of months for their flying to adapt to the pedals. I only know of one guy who decided he couldn't get along with them. Saitek Cyborg Evo Force with Saitek pedals. I used one of them for about 3 years Siggi and I think it was a pretty decent tough stick, although I did break off the lower portion of the trigger in my excitement when I shot down someone on War Clouds for the first time. Lol. However, the MSFFB was like night and day. Just much more precise and responsive.
FuriousMeow Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 X52 Pro and Saitek Pro Pedals. Curious about the X55, if it's FFB I will certainly consider it but will giving it at least 6 months of use by others before purchasing after the Pro Pedals fiasco I've been enduring. The Pro Pedals have been causing me issues randomly over the past couple months, but ceased for about a month and a half for some reason, and today resurfaced. They used to cause a USB reset of the X52, and that was it, when moving the right pedal rapidly forward. That sorted itself out after I took it apart and removed the center indent nonsense Saitek put in there and changed around USB ports to even out power load. However, this afternoon it came back with a vengence and not only is it causing the X52 to reset but also the monitor to go dark. No system restart, and GPU doesn't appear to go out because GPU-Z doesn't show a drop in voltage or GPU usage. So I'm thinking a short in the pedals that somehow only occurs with quick right rudder engagement (forward movement on the right rudder pedal). I have found zero reports of this ever occuring with the Pro Pedals so it appears I'm the only person with a lemon. It's a shame, you'd think with a higher cost point and having a product labelled "Pro" they'd make sure it was fully QCed before going out the door but it appears not so and the tension adjuster is a joke. It should go from no tension to a lot, not a fair amount of tension to way too much.
DD_fruitbat Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 MS FFB2, with x52pro throttle (joystick as a button bay), saitek pedals and a saitek throttle quadrant. Could not go back to not using pedals now.
II./JG27_Rich Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Logitech 3d extreme pro and I hate it with a passion. Saitek peddals witch I love.
BeastyBaiter Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Saitek X-52 Pro, had it about 8 years, other than the "up" on one of the three hat switches, it works good as new. No pedals but I am using TIR5. And agreed on hall sensors, there is no going back to those crappy pots afterwards. The T-16000 is probably the best ~$50 stick.
FuriousMeow Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Was googling replacement pedals, seems my Saitek Combat pedals are shot, and came across this stick (the pedals are ridiculous - $2000+): http://www.flightlink.com/base-page/gs3plus/ Still ridiculously costly, but looks fancy and would probably be a nice stick for one of those home cockpit jobs.
Capt_Hook Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Warthog, Saitek Combat pedals, TIR5, and a CH quadrant. I find the six analog sliders on the Quadrant are essential for WWII sims. It's all mounted on an Obutto Revolution. The Warthog stick is incredible, but I do wish I'd jumped on one of the nice machined extension tubes that an enterprising individual was selling on SimHQ when the stick was first available. It needs more travel and a bit more leverage to be perfect. Those RCM hydraulic actuated pedals are really nice... they've been around a while and have an excellent reputation. $850 for pedals, though... I spend a lot on my hobby, but that's a bit out there. And the $2300 jet RCMs are insane. Edited November 21, 2013 by NervousEnergy
SYN_Vorlander Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 VKB Mamba joysticks Warthog throttle control MFG rudder pedals
Wolger Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Saitek X-52 Pro, lots of buttons, sliders. Miles different compare to Logitech Extreme 3D Pro which remains in the box. You can build flightstick stand out of PVC pipes and mount your HOTAS on it..A mere 20 bucks for the manual.
Quax Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) MS FFB2 Edited November 21, 2013 by Quax
Matt Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) You can build flightstick stand out of PVC pipes and mount your HOTAS on it..A mere 20 bucks for the manual. I also built a stand out of pipes and if anybody wants to see pictures or wants to know how i built it, let me know. It will cost a mere 0 bucks. Edited November 21, 2013 by Matt
Primus_71 Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 Saitek X65F + Saitek Pedals. I'm looking forward to having functional elevator trim in the sim
LLv34_Flanker Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 S! Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog + CH ProPedals. Just need to convert my pedals from gameport to USB with a Bodnar circuit or something, the dongle is not good enough and at the same time the toe brakes could be enabled
99th_Jaguar Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I have a X-52 pro Joystick and the Combat pro rudder pedals. I had to return a TM Warthog set up a week before the early access began. It looks like I might miss two days of testing and set up before I can configure the new stick and throttle. I am really confortable with the rotary and slidders on the X-52. I use them for my trim settings in Il2 1946 and ROF. I would really appreciate any help or suggestions on how to accomplish the same on the TM warthog . I only saw one large grey dial on the throttle. Could someone Pm me with how they would, or will set up theirs? I enjoyed my used x-52 pro, yet it's time to put her down to rest. Thank you in advance for your assistance. 99th_Jaguar.
Fodder Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Ms ff2 and saitek pedals. Considering a throttle quadrant too. I agree with an earlier poster about placing the joystick in your lap. I like the low position it gives and the weight of the Ms ff2 lends itself to being used like this (won't work too well with a stuck with a small base and strong spring) 1
Fodder Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Forgot to say that one issue with using a joystick in your lap and using rudder pedals is that big rudder movements means big leg movements which rocks the joystick base
Matt Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I have a X-52 pro Joystick and the Combat pro rudder pedals. I had to return a TM Warthog set up a week before the early access began. It looks like I might miss two days of testing and set up before I can configure the new stick and throttle. I am really confortable with the rotary and slidders on the X-52. I use them for my trim settings in Il2 1946 and ROF. I would really appreciate any help or suggestions on how to accomplish the same on the TM warthog . I only saw one large grey dial on the throttle. Could someone Pm me with how they would, or will set up theirs? I enjoyed my used x-52 pro, yet it's time to put her down to rest. Thank you in advance for your assistance. 99th_Jaguar. The Warthog only has three sliders. Left and right throttle and the large grey dial you're talking about. And i plan to use all those for other things (though i might put the elevator adjustment of the Bf-109 on the grey lever, not sure yet). I'll put the trim on one of the hat switches. I don't think that many planes in BoS have rudder, aileron and elevator trim (He-111 perhaps, but other than that?). If you like using the rotaries and slider of the X-52, why not keep using it for that? You can also make use of the X-52 throttle axis for planes that need more than the three axes avaliable on the Warthog. 1
Georgio Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 Only way to fly; the Saitek Combat Pro pedals are amazing for the money and combined with the versatility of the Warthog it's an unbeatable combo. for flying. TM Warthog with Saitek pedals. No complaints here.
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